(I made this thread because I didn't want my other thread to be hijacked when it was a thread for Adam and supportive info for Adam)Unforgetto's Post:It's the way I was raised and cultured man. At least I'm honest about it. I'm not hiding it like the rest of you. I know you wouldn't love your sons, or love them as much, or care about them as much if they were gay. Because it's a diss to you. It's that simple.Just say it already, I'm sick of this gay "ok" bullshit. End of Post.Now here's my reply:Well appearantly how you were raised was not correct anyways, unless you were raised it was okay to two time women???And I want you to explain "Just say it already, I'm sick of this gay "ok" bullshit. " Are you trying to say it's not okay to be gay? Are you saying you are against society progressing to accept homosexual? I'm interested to know.> I know you wouldn't love your sons, or love them as much, or care about them as much if they were gay. Because it's a diss to you. It's that simple.How is it a diss to the parent? It's not the parents fault. And if a parent would judge how much they loved their child off of their childs sexuality than they should have been a parent to begin with. To be a parent you are to have unconditional love for the child, no matter what.
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To Unforghetto
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In the same manner of thought, I know people that are ugly, some of them damned ugly. That is determined totaly by the parents genes. if you have a kid and its ugly does that mean you are not going to love it?If either of my kids turned out to be gay, It not a diss on me. Its not a diss at all. People are what they are and who they hoose to live, sleep, and be in love with hs nothing to do with who and what that person is.take yourself for example Unforgetto, your perfect because your not gay but your still a narrow minded piece of shit, that seems far from perfect to me. Then throw in the cheating on your g/f. once again that doest seem like a virtue to be upheld either. Gayisnt for me, but since it doesnt affect me its also none of my business what two other people do. If my kids were gay, that doesnt affect me either becaue they are the ones that have to endure slimy sucking shit weasles like you. And Ill defend em every step of the way in anthing they do.Support and defend.If someones gay it doesnt mean shit to you. If ya dont like it then dont get involved in that lifestyle, its that easy. Your one of the toad humping bowel slurpers I keep my kids away from when I can, the same ones that tak shit about fag, spic, nigger, wop and what ever else ya care to throw in to the mix. My oldest is 15 to the best of my knowledge he has never heard the word nigger, if he did it wasnt from me or around me. Fag unfortunatly he has heard and from me, but it wa before I grew up and that is what you need to do.
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wuts a wop?
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derogative term for italians
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oh ok. thanks
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Hmm... unconditional love. This reminds me an old story:
"Long time ago, there was a priest in a small village. His brother was murdered and after some days a person came in tears to his church to confess. This man confessed to the priest that he has killed someone, but now he feels guilty and he wants to be forgiven. The priest understood that he was the murderer of his brother. He didn't say anything though and he let him to finish his confession. Before the murderer finishes, guards knocked the door of the room. They were after him. The priest hid the man and told lies to the guards, that this man had left already. After that, the priest blessed the man and he let him free"
I'd prefer to raise my child like the priest treated the murderer. We have to be strict with the rules sometimes, but we also must understand and forgive. This is much better than punishing someone. And don't forget, everyone is a sinner.
But, this has nothing to do with Adam & NtroducingMYself. They have not commited any crime and they are not hurting themselves or anyone else. They do have a private life and the only thing they need is repect.
I will never tell my children that being homosexual is a bad way of living. I'd just tell them to be responsible and to work hard for their dreams. Everyone must achieve something in this life.
In the end, culture and education make you a better person, but the soul stays untouched.
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There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, it's not what makes you a person, it's only a small part of what makes you "you." Besides, we don't choose love, it chooses us.
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lets not start using wop around here or I am going to get a bit angry.
Italian Pride.
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**All the people who post on here a lot know what a pathetic waste unforgetto is, he gets on everyones case, thinks its cool to be a dick, and moans on about my amount of posts compared to his (i think he has a size issue LOL)
IF he ever has kids (the thought makes me cringe) then i have no doubt that he would disown his son, if he found he was gay, it would just be something he would do (making judgements from his posts) and all he will come and do is post aggressive replys to this thread.............so let the arguing begin - me first, me first :smile: ** -
"toad humping bowel slurpers"LOL,LOL,LOL....Oh god, your a true artist man. I thought only my father could cuse like that...lol "My father worked in profanity the way some work in clays or oils, he was true master" --A Christmass Story
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In reply to:"My father worked in profanity the way some work in clays or oils, he was true master" --A Christmas Story I love that movie!!! Been one of my favourites since I was a kid. "I can't put my arms down!!"
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I disagree... don't want to stamp all over anyones arguements but being gay is a BIG part of who i am... like i'm not talking the way i act but me, perosnally. your sexualities very important imo... but at the end of the day everyones different and it doesn't really matter...like you say katie lou- we can't choose who we love...
whoot. i \*think\* this is my first post in the relationships forum...its not a very friendly place so far i'm afraid... :frowning: (but then again i've only read two threads...) -
I hope he doesnt have kids but if he does I hope they all turn out gay. That way he will HAVE to grow up. I dont think many people could dissown their kids for somthing as petty as that. He is probrably about 14 thus his lop sided view on homosexuals and the fact he hasnt grown up yet and formed any realistic opinions on anything. If he reads this he needs to give being a homaphobe alot of thought and ask himself what people like NtroducingMyself who is a pretty fucking nice guy have ever done to him. Also If you(Unforghetto) read this answer this question because I want to know the answer. What have gay people EVER done to YOU personaly. I myself had a few reasons that I felt were somewhat valid reasons to dislike them from personal experiances until I realised because alot or a few of a certain group of people are ass holes you cant dislike ALL of them thats fucking unfair. I realised that I was no fucking better than the people who look down on me and think I have no job and am doing nothing with my life before they know me. You are no better than a racist, as sexist or any other discrimetory person.
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>I don't know who Unforghetto is, but I assume you are referring to me.
So sorry I added an "H" to your name, but yeah I was referring to you.
>I am not saying that I was raised in a right/wrong way. All I said was that it's simply the way I was raised, the culture I'm from, and simply what I believe and feel as a human being.
As a human being you have the free will to see past how you are raised and make your OWN decisions in life. If you decide to dislike a class of people simply because of their sexuality that they cannot control, that's your skeleton to carry.
>I can sit here and type shit like "oh yeah, if I had a gay son it would be alright for me, because I'm all for gays, and I respect people who come out, and I think it's right", which is what most people do, but they don't even mean it.
In today's society people are certainly not scared to say what they feel or give their opinion. So when people say they are cool with homosexuality I believe it. Just as people who say they disliek homosexuality but have nothing to back up disliking homosexuals they need to be prepared to hear people upset with them.
>I am sure there are many many people who feel the same way as me, but they are just hiding it under a blanket of bullshit.
Are there people with your view? yes, but sorry not as many as you think.
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I am simply being honest with you, and I'm saying that I was to have a gay son I would not be a happy man. It's the way it is. You can point a gun to my head and threaten to kill me, still it will not change.That's what you think and say now. If you had a son that you loved and then found out he was gay, you would still love him. You may at first be shocked, angry, disappointed.. whatever... but in the the end he/she would still be your child that you raised and loved.I too think homosexuality is wrong. However, I don't care what other people do. It doesn't affect me. But there is no way I could stop caring for my kids if I found out they were gay. I'd be seriously dissappointed though.
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If I ever had kids that turned out gay, I'd still love them. The only problem that I'd have with it, is the way that they might get treated in society - it would cause me a lot of worry.
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For most parents thats usually their main concern. But in todays society most people just don't care anymore. Though its still an issue, it's not a severe issue anymore.