Hey guys i can't really find anyone to talk to about this that understands where i'm coming from so im hoping that posting this can help... for the past year i just feel empty, alone and don't understand life. i don't want my exsistance or the exsistants of the humman race to be totally futil because i don't no if we go to a higher plane of exsistance or heaven etc. i don't understand life and i have been trying to go to sleep at night and end up crying because everything just goes black and i start to think about this thing that i just cant get out of my head, i wish that somehow i could find out what happens when we die or if i am given proof that life is not just meaningless. like we have all these material things like computers... whats the point of them when there is no point to life. we are just greedy, selfish living organisms infecting the planet for no particular reason :frowning: i think about things like wow a movie whats the point of that if we are all going to die anyway and be wiped out of exsistence one day..... somebody please help me here or give me support or some kind of proof that life is not pointless and that when i die i will not just fall into blackness never to return with any thought or anything at all :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:
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I Feel Empty
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That's the problem with our race I believe ... we have these shitty things called feelings that make us do or not do things ...I've thought like you before but I haven't acted on it (yet) because deep inside I wish/hope there's something to more than life right now ... if people didn't have feelings like that most of us would be dead
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well it only hit me when i turned 18 that one day i will die so whts the point of my exsistence. is my life worthless? and is there a place i can go when i die
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Cumon guys i need help here i am totally dead inside, and i dont want to go to bed and feel the way i do.... i cant do this anymore i hate my life so much :frowning:
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Your point of existence is jsut ... there's no "point" you just try to enjoy life and do whatever comes your way. I don't think there is a "point" because everyone's life is different so there is no one point that people are supposed to work toward - just do whatever you do in your life and try to enjoy itA place to go when you die? well people who believe in god think there is, but I believe they only think so because they have a hard time accepting that there is nothing when you die. They can't accept everything just ending and you just not existing anymore, so they turn to a thing they call God. That's my view anyway.Look at it this way... why would you be in thsi world if there was a God who loves all human beings and what not? Some people say it's a test ... for what? If your bad is God going to punish you by sending you to a horrible place called hell forever, even though he loves you? Doubtful. And it seems that all it takes is a little "I'm sorry" and God will say "it's ok you killed 20 people you can stil come to heaven" or whatever you did.It all seems pretty pointless to me.So if you ask me there's nothing when you die... but I must say that I find it hard myself to believe there is nothing after you die ... I mean I believe it but I know inside that, again, I wish/hope there is something .... if I believed there was nothing after death 100% then I wouldn't be alive today.
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Thnx tht kinda helps in a weird way... i guess everyone wishes and hopes because no one wants to die and fall into darkness for eva its so weird thinking bout it I HATE IT SO MUCH! its so depressing whn u think about it but thnx agen for kinda helping im gonna try and sleep now, dont no if it will happen though....
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Daryl,Dude…..You really need to stop worrying about things you can't control....Like death!Try living each day as if it was your last….. . Try to greet each person with all the love you can find inside of you and let the sunshine back into your life….If all else fails…. Try becoming a bible thumper with organized religion… They think they can solve every lost soul’s problems… I’m sure they can find something top help you!
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Yeah... the thing I need to realize is that you don't "fall into darkness forever" ... because you won't be able to think, because you don't exist, and there no such thing as your soul living on. It just ends. There's nothing.
It's hard to think about that though.. you're right... it doesn't make much sense does it. Now I'm trying to say "I guess we'll all see when we're dead" but then again we won't , because agani we won't think, we won't exist, etc... so confusing!
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So confusing… but it made sense!
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You are wrestling with the issues of the existentialist philosphers. They were pretty active in France in the mid-1900's, and they wrote a lot about the subject. Jean-Paul Sartre, Albert Camus, and Jean Wahl were probably the best-known writers.
At the risk of putting words in their mouths, their paradoxical conclusion was that there is no afterlife, and once you're dead, it's all pretty meaningless. However, while you are alive, life is meaningful and important.
Humanism has a number of flavors, but mosts humanists think that the purpose of life is to be happy, and to help others to be happy; that it's all about the people (and the animals and the planet, but that's another issue). In other words, we find meaning in our relationships with others, and in trying to make the world a better place.
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its so depressing whn u think about itWhat do you think is making you obsess over this issue now? Are you depressed?
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Ok, I'm going to try and help you out here. Let me know if I'm not helping. There's a thing that all living creatures were provided with. This special gift is called life. Life gives us many many oppurtunities. Whether it is to love someone, to visit various places, to educate yourself, to have fun. Just enjoy life. If things are bad maybe you should watch a funny show or something. Go hang out with your friends. Plan a trip to an amusement park or state/country etc. We only have one life to live (my grandmother watches that show) and you should live it well. Find out what's causing you to be so depressed. There are times when I feel this way. But when I do I engage myself into a nice mystery novel or I study my Japanese. I would feel the same way as you do but for different reasons and now I have something to look forward to. Maybe you should try a good deed. Helping others. It will settle a warm feeling inside you. Books help though. Good ones. If this doesn't work maybe you should talk to someone. Just someone to hear you out. Don't think about death. It's true that we live to die. As we get older we get closer to death. But that's not something you should look forward to. Just enjoy life. I would mention something that helps me but then I'd be imposing and we especially steve don't want that. Hope that helps.
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Typical text book answer which I'm pretty sure will not help.
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Well, you 're not the only one asking yourself these questions.I've spent some nights trying answering my thoughts about death and life, and I've felt also really depressed. I don't want to be selfish, excusing myself that the meaning of life is finding a way to have a pleasant and good life in this world. This world actually sux. There's so much pain and unjustice and I am just lucky that I've never faced hunger or anything really bad in my life. I can't rest in my undisturbed bliss, knowing that some other people really suffer.I personally believe in God, but I won' t tell you that this life is just a test for your soul. I still live because, even if this world has many problems, I think I can help it to improve itself. I believe there can be a good ending for human mankind and they can build in the future their own "paradise". I want to be optimistic and I finally believe in a better future for all of us.Anyway, I'm not asking you to follow my silly thoughts. I've just mentioned them because this's how I feel. Don't be so sure, that humans will fail in this world. We've made many mistakes trough history, but you can clearly discover that we're steadily improving ourselves.
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You feel exactly like I did last year. I felt so empty, like my existance was meaningless and my emotions were dead. I personally don't know if there's an afterlife, or if we just die and that's it. No one does know for sure (although some people seem pretty sure that they know know the answer, which seems absurd). The most important thing is life, and how we live it. I had to find things that were important to me and pursue that. I needed to wake up and remind myself that my moping around wasn't doing any good and that I'd be happier when I got back up on my feet and walked forward.Life is what is important. It's kind of hard to see, but I think that the reasons we have emotions and purpose in life is to give our life meaning. Those are the things that make us feel good. Most importantly, deciding to look forward with a positive attitude is the greatest step in becoming happier since you won't worry about what seems pointless, since you'll be seeing the good reasons to do things that give life purpose.
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What things in life do motivate you? I've tried to find the strength to live in my family, in school or with the company of my best friends. But I'm afraid things change. Some day I can lose them all, and this will be unbearable for me.I don't know, sometimes I get all the hope I need from some photographs. Photographs have this awesome ability to picture the positive side in life. They remind that life worths living it. Beautiful fields, christmas parties, excursions with school, travels with family/friends.These photographs prove to you that life isn't made of misery.
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Knowing that there will always be little things to put a smile on my face, and that there will be more of them the more positive I am. Not only that, but I have my family and other people I care about who may not be here forever but are here for the time being and that's all the more reason to be happy with the time that I have right now. I strive to improve myself just to prove I can do it, even if it seems meaningless overall. I guess it just lets me prove that I am capable of shaping some things the way I want and I have some degree of control over what happens in my life.
It's sometimes hard to have something firm to hold on to, but I try to keep a positive attitude and know that there will always be good things in life. I've realized that my happiness really comes down to the outlook I have on life.
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Well from what you've read you have no reason not to be happy ... next time you're down you should be glad that you have what you have ....
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"If your bad is God going to punish you by sending you to a horrible place called hell forever, even though he loves you?"The philosphical debate given by the Atheists..."How can a all loving, all caring, all passionate, and all gooood God (some will enough throw in an all forgiving God in their argument) give someone the punishment of eternally being sent to hell forever." They will use the example of someone murdering someone or something to that extent and say..."When the person performed that sinful act, did it not occur in a finite realm of time? Did the victim only suffer for a short period of time and even if it was a slow brutal death, didnt his pain eventually come to end?" So why then should a punishment like hell be given to someone? Isnt being sent to hell just like saying you will be punished for all enternity? Well that doesnt make sense now does it...after all on one hand you had some one whos pain eventually ceased to exist at one point and then here God is saying you will be punished for the rest of infinity for your unrighteous act of sin. Is that not unfair and unjust?" So A) God is not all that he is made out to be in terms of being all good, all passionate, etc. or B) God simply does not exitst.However, the argument fails for many reasons, but being that I have to go to work now I unfortunately dont have time to explain the opposite side of things. However, if anyone wants the conclusion Ill be glad to give it to them later. Im sure Steve could take over here even though hes an atheist.P.S. Ive always loved the view of the typical humanist for the most part, Im sure even you can agree with that one Steve....atheist or not.
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[Lot's of text stating the "God either sucks or God doesn't exist" dilemma.]In reply to:However, the argument fails for many reasons, but being that I have to go to work now I unfortunately dont have time to explain the opposite side of things. However, if anyone wants the conclusion Ill be glad to give it to them later. Im sure Steve could take over here even though hes an atheist.Well, thanks for clearing up that dilemma. Today, the existence of God; tomorry, a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem in three lines.In reply to:P.S. Ive always loved the view of the typical humanist for the most part, Im sure even you can agree with that one Steve....atheist or not.What's not to like? The basic idea is that people should be good to each other, and advance the lot of humanity.