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There are the occasional weird cases, but that is far from typical.Abortion has only been universally legal (in the U.S.) since the early 70's. Was it a legal abortion?

i have no idea. he only told me once and im not bringing it up with him again. it was either the 70's or 80's he was with the girl for a loooong time (20 or so years from 1970-1990 something)

Oh, I wasnt arguing with you, just stating that since you said she has already made her decision, that that didnt matter since it applied to many people that come here looking for answers that if there was more to say then it should be said.The OP isnt the only one that has gone thru this and needs the information.I agree with you that you provided pertinant information and there was nothing wrong with what you wrote.

Oh no i didnt mean to reply to you, i was reffering to DxLISHxISx_43 who said i should have no comment on the matter. I agree, the info here should be here incase someone else has this question.

I did not say you should not comment on the matter. I said you should not comment on how hard it is to raise children.

and for that i said "I dont think my choice to not have kids makes me any worse at giving a comment because i have reasons why i dont want a kid and whati would do in the event of a child. its not like im 14 saying 'oh kids are gross' No. I have reasons and facts to back them up." I know how hard it is to raise kids from my friends that have kids. I have heard and seen the good and the bad.

People without kids are not allowed to comment? Some people without kids have been involved with people who have had kids. Actually no. People who don't have kids can comment on what its like to have kids, but their viewpoint isn't valid, cos they have no idea.Its easy for me to say i know what its like to have cancer, my mum had it, i have worked with people who have had it/died from it (on a non medical side) however i DONT know what its like to have cancer, and NEVER will unless i have it myself. Even people who look after other peopls children will NEVER know what its like to have one of your own, full stop!

So an oncologist shouldn't practice until he's had the type of cancer that he treats, because his knowledge is invalid? People shouldn't run prisons unless they've been convicted? A fireman shouldn't rescue you unless he's been caught in a dangerous fire? That's ridiculous.Lady, I've been a child myself, and I remember quite a bit of what it's like. I've had friends at all economic level who have had children, and I've spent a lot of time with them and their families. You seem to think that if you don't have the emotional connection with a child that a parent has, then nothing you say is valid. That is insulting, stupid, and arrogant, given the subject of this thread.I'll tell you this: There are many parents who don't have clue number one about parenting.

Lady, I've been a child myself, and I remember quite a bit of what it's like. funnily enough me too, and hey its totally different than being a parent, so your bloody point is??????You are unreal steve! >>>>>>So an oncologist shouldn't practice until he's had the type of cancer that he treats, because his knowledge is invalid? no, but he can't say he KNOWS what its like to have cancer.........which is what i was saying. He might know everything there is to know what cancer is all about, but he has no idea what it is like to have it. So you have spent time with children, wahay do you want a medal steve, but you still have no idea what its like being a parent, which was my point. >>>>>>I'll tell you this: There are many parents who don't have clue number one about parenting. very true, and something i have said before.............oh and you tell me steve rolls eyes

your bloody point isMy "bloody point" is that this thread is about a young girl who's pregnant, and will be in big trouble with her family. If the discussion were strictly about the emotional bond between parent and child, you'd have a point, although I'd still disagree with you. But in the context of this thread, you are totally off base. I know that we all like to think we're in a position of having extra-special knowledge that others don't have, but that does not apply here. In other words, don't be so full of yourself.

LMFAOAROTFL! I thought that was your job! LOL I assmume you have no opinions about kids. That's nice, since you don't have any. But thanks for stirring the pot. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.

If it makes you happy to attack me, then go ahead. But I disagree with your point. This thread has little to do with child-raising techniques. You apparently didn't read the rest of the thread, but decided to jump in. And you said absolutely nothing to support your position, other than repeating the moronic idea that you can't comment on (raising) children if you don't have any. That is a stupid, stupid idea. You're going to have to at least take a shot at making a case.But thanks for jumping in, my little sniper. You're always so helpful. You just can never pass up an opportunity to take a shot. I suggest that you avoid thread regarding non-adults and their issues. Didn't you once tell us how much you dislike chidren? LMAO!

Although, Angel, I think you should allow for parents who have adopted and raised a kid, or foster kids, and not just strictly those who have had a baby.On adoption: It is EXTREMELY hard for mothers to give up their child. I have never done so, but I am speaking for my sister here. If the OP, or any mother considering it, wants to give up their baby, they must be CONVINCED that it's the best thing for the baby and them.

Although, Angel, I think you should allow for parents who have adopted and raised a kid, or foster kids, and not just strictly those who have had a baby. I didn't actually mean JUST those who had given birth, i really mean anyone who looks after and is responsible for a child long term, like the people you mentioned.its very easy to look after a child for a weekend and think you know what its like to have a kid, i.e. see to their needs, keep them safe etc...........but its nothing like being a parent.

I agree with that too, but this thread is not a seminar in child rearing. You don't need to have a child to make a useful obseration about parenting any more than you need to have cancer to make a useful obseration about cancer.Specifically, what bogus information was put up in this thread by someone with no kids? Can you cite it, or are you just arguing for fun? If you have an issue, you need to cite it. Generalizations generally don't hold water.

My opinion is that if you don't feel that you are qualified to make a comment, then you shouldn't make a comment. If someone thinks that incorrect information was conveyed, then they should point out what that information is. As I said, this thread is not a seminar in rearing children.I hope the original poster is doing what she needs to do. She may not have returned because everyone here is freakin' nuts.