Aliens

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"They also recently found a meteor or some space rock that contained a fossil inside of it. It wasn't even from earth."It was from Mars. They could tell by the composition of the soil. It was supposedly blasted off of Mars when a meteor struck.

Thanks Steve :smile:

I look at the subject mathematically...
the difference between the odds of 1 in 70 sextillion and 2 in 70 sextillion are so infantecimal as to be nearly meaningless. That would suggest that the probablilty of not only life, but life identical to us, exsists.
Basically, if it can happen here, it can happen somewhere else. One could even extrapolate that life on Earth proves the exsistance of life elsewhere.

blinks wha........who............reading.......yes steve your right no-one is EVER off the hook nods

WoW Scotty a VERY nice post. It was very itneresting to me, so it was FAR from boring.

Back when I first started college I was going into Archaeology in the selected field of Egyptology. I learned a lot of VERY interesting ideas and explinations. One of the wild explinations of the pyramids was that they were not of this planet and/or we're created by "aliens". To listen to the explinations, it's very fascinating.. though i personally don't believe that. One of the main points they brought was that was each block of stone was exactly 2cm (I think I could be wrong on the measurements), not one piece strayed from that measurement and they state that no human could ever be that exact without a slight variance here and there. Also, all three pyramids are exactly placed to line up with three specific stars. Like I said I don't believe they were made by "aliens" but they do have some interesting reading and theories.

what the antients had a lot of was time and manpower combined with an accute undertanding of math.(and I think you mean 2 metres)

might have been two meters.. it was a long time ago that I studied all that.And I agree they had a lot of time and manpower.. plus Egypt at the time was a superpower and they were a very advanced civilization, medically and technology wise. I would love to be able to travel back in time and witness Eqypt when it was in it's prime.. as a royal of course hehe.

not one piece strayed from that measurement and they state that no human could ever be that exact without a slight variance here and there.Every time someone says, "No human could possibly do 'X'", someone finds a way to do "X". (E.g., crop circles.) Did anyone see the Nova program on how the pyramids may have been constructed? They showed how huge stone blocks could be transported and raised. Somtimes we're too arrogant to accept that ancient humans knew mechanical techniques that we don't yet understand.It's funny that sometimes scientists are even more credulous than others.____________________________________________________________________>> "They also recently found a meteor or some space rock that contained a fossil inside of it. It wasn't even from earth."> It was from Mars. They could tell by the composition of the soil. It was supposedly blasted off of Mars when a meteor struck.It is certainly not widely believe in the scientific community that there were signs of fossils in those rocks. It was more like seeing patterns and interpreting them in a wishful way.

**I m with you eddie, i love all things egyptian, and the inca's etc........I've been lucky enough to see the egyptian exibit in the Louvre a few times when ive been over there, its something i never get tired of seeing....... ** :grin:

The touring Egypt exhibit is now in the area...I need to get tickets.

>>>"I look at the subject mathematically..."

I think that is, most likely, the only way we will ever be able to look at it. It's simply probabilities. All we can do is update our probabilities as our sample size increases. For instance a thousand years ago all we knew was what the church told us and what we saw with our own eyes. In that scenario life elsewhere has no probability. As we learned that there were other planets the question of life on them arises. The more planets discovered the higher the probability of life. As the sample size gets bigger all probabilities grow. Our sample size of the number of galaxies has increased exponentially in the past 20 to 30 years and so the probability for life elsewhere has gone up. As we sample stars, for planets, within our range of detection, we find that planets are rather common, terrestrial planets while less common are not uncommon given the size of the sample. Again the probability for life goes up. As we learn microbes can live in extreme environments and transverse space. The probability for life goes up.

Given that with all its human alteration, from space there is no visible evidence of life on earth, I think all we will ever have, baring contact or running across the city planet of Courasant (sp?), is probability based on larger sample sizes. So, if that is a reasonable assumption, this argument should take place within the field of cosmological mathematics rather than tangible science.

I truely believe that there are other life forms somewhere out there; I think it would be overly presumptuous and closed-minded if we just assumed that we were the only beings here.

Given that with all its human alteration, from space there is no visible evidence of life on earthThe presence of water and oxygen are detectable from a great distance, and they are the gold standard for hospitality toward life as we understand it.

> I truely believe that there are other life forms somewhere out there; I think it would be overly presumptuous and closed-minded if we just assumed that we were the only beings here.

How about if we just assume that it's an open question? It seems pretty presumtuous to say yes or no.

for hospitality toward life as we understand it. totally, but, what if another lifeform isn't carbon based and doesn't need water etc............hmmmm............pondering

There are THOUSANDS of possibilities. One could say aliens are non carbon based life forms.. they could be nasty globs of slime.. hell they could look just like humans, jut more advanced... who knows. It's certainly fun to think about

>>>>>they could be nasty globs of slime..

**wow and i bet half of em post on here, see there is proof after all they exist ** :grin:

ROFL!

How about if we just assume that it's an open question?Well regardless of how you put it, it is an open question because there is no "yes or no" answer at this time. Some people believe in other life forms, some don't, and some are not sure or they don't even care. But I do believe that there are other life forms out there, and I don't think that they'd necessarily be carbon based, or require water or have the other basic needs we have. The possibilities are endless.

totally, but, what if another lifeform isn't carbon based and doesn't need water etc............hmmmm............ponderingOn 10/25, Java_Addict posted thread called Ok, So What if..., which covered the same topic as this thread. In it, RobBob asked: "I wonder how silcon based life would work. It has a similar molecular structure to carbon. Wouldn't that be crazy, I wonder how it would work."I replied: "Not as well. Ask an astrobiologist.Then RobBob said, "That's really interesting. Are there any other elements that tend to form such varieties of molecules and have the capability of forming long strings the way carbon does? Nitrogen perhaps (just a guess)."Only carbon and silicon are capable of forming the big, complex molecules required by life as we understand it. Silicon doesn't really get you very far. Without carbon, it deosn't appear that any kind of non-trivial life is possible. If it were possible, it likely would have evolved on Earth, along side of carbon-based life.In realitiy, the possibilities are not endless.

wow and i bet half of em post on here, see there is proof after all they existThus crushing the argument for intellegent life