To Tame?

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I know im not a teen anymore, but this doesnt fit anywhere else except maybe deppression but im notdeppressed about it. Excuse the typing errors for this one post please. Thanks.Alright, Tonight I was having dinner with my fella and he made a comment about the trip we were talking in a few days. how, he couldnt believe someone like me was doing it. He didnt say it in a mean condenscending way, but other people have also made comments to me about how...I guess how Im to tame how i dont take enough chances in life. So, I have gotten horrible drunk, been with a married man, had an affair, failed at anything terribly or ruined my life but does that make me too... boring? I mean. Shy? yes. Quiet? yes. Im not looking for you all to tell me "Oh im sure your fine." or "you just have low self esteem." Im not fishing for compliments. I just...Need to vent i think. I mean, Am I wasting my young years in life not doing anything? I think I am I mean, for gods sake i lived in poland over a summer and im going to a fricken place only 100,000 people have (estimated) been and I mean. Is it cause i give off this geeky presence or cause i like science? I need coffee. Anyways, What i think im asking or venting to is, how can i make it appear that im not this shy quiet introverted girl. dammit. I dont think im getting accrossed what i want to, but what the hell.

I understand exactly where you're comin from.. Im the same exact way. Im 20 years old and in college. I dont drink or party, i dont club or act like a dumbass like most kids my age. I love being with my family and you know what, when i come home from work i want to relax at home. I'm not a night person, so the fuck what if everyone else is....im not. You have to live the way YOU want to live, dont live how everyone else wants you to live. You obviously must want to be te way you are otherwise you would not have grown up to be this way. I say fuck em all, if they wont like me for the way i am than fuck em all. Dont change who you are java, be urself. Sure the majority isnt like us, but you know what, who cares.

Amen!I like what you posted!I can relate to that way of thinking as well... Fuck 'em!

No, that's not true, maybe she is the wild type, but never had a chance to do what she wants......she may have grew up in a tight loving family (aw, and we all know how great a tight loving adorable family is, (sarcastic))..anyways im in the same way....i know i am a party person being restricted by a family who lives in 1950 and thinks its better to be smart and have a good job than having freinds and being happy.........so yea i know how it feels....it isn;t always the case that she isn't party-ish....it could be the way her parents tried to make her calm and not wild.....and its hard to be party-ish if you've never had the chance to....doesn't mean that she is calm tho....could mean she's just been restricted her whole life and can't break it well.....

Wow. So, it was your hiding the microphone in the airvents when i was a kid? I did like in quite a restrictive household. Strong family (I shouldnt say that, I should say strong jewish) values, I mean, what 15 year old do you know that never got a B in school and continued that till i got into college? I mean. I just barely began to kind of outstrech past my childhood and really experiance life. I think its really stupid that i come off like bambi. I mean that in the scared deer way not in the tramp way. Dammit im going to go ice climbing and rock climbing and climb mt everest some day (i mean that seriously.) But i feel like there are all these people looking at me like 'oh, she is to timid and sheltered to do stuff like that'

I dont know if im a partying person. I dont have the desire to get drunk and party like that, I want to go to New Guinea and travel and do amazing things but why does that not count? I think thats a step above a partier. An adventurer. Thats it. I think that is more living life then getting wasted every night at a party. Why do i feel the need to justify this?

I strongly recommend adventurous travel. It's stressful and will really stretch you, but it will give you a lot of self-reliance. And later you will always be able to tell your adventures to people at length, making them feel simultaneously envious and bored.

the impression i get from you on this board is that you are quite a daring type. i totally know where your coming from, youre just an unconventional rebel, who doesnt want to get totally wasted and drunk but wants to get out and travel. who cares what others think, you know you probably think that these people think one way of you, wheras a lot of the time they might secretly admire your attitude, i kinda doubt that they only think your all quiet and timid. just forget about what everyone else thinks and be true to yourself.

I know how you feel. I'm not even going to bother saying much because its been said before. You should be out partying though. Have a good time. Especially at a young age. It's good to have fun! ... when you aren't restricted. I'm still considered too young to go out. It's a hassle for me to even go to the movies with a couple of friends. I have an overprotective family (what else is new?) but I try not to let that get in the way. Besides, it can be fun rebelling, at least until you're caught and given the 2-hour WWJD lecture. Hate those. So do what you think is best and right for you. Don't let what other people say affect you though. Soon as I turn 16 wait... 18. It's over. All over.

Take your trip, when your back the ice wont be worth a shit but if you stop thru utah, or if my plans to climb in yosemite this summer come thru, Ill put your ass on some rock. If your serious baout climbing rock you can go to a gym and take lessons, climbin gindoors isnt the same but its a good way to learn the rope and the gear and proper hand placement an how to use your legs to do most of your work instea of powering thru everything with your arms. Alot of the balance is the same indoors as out. I started on real rock on my own, had I used a gym and class to learn Id of avoided alot of broken things and alot of money in equipment I didnt really need and hospital bills for setting broken bones and dislocated joints.
I could take you though and keep it on top ropes its nearly damned impossible to get hurt on a top rope if people that run belay know what they are doing and keep it tight.
Id also reccomend a book called "On Rope" before you did anything. Its the caving bible but has soooo much on knots and using gear and rope placement.
If your serious, let me know when your back from your trip.
Actually, damnednear anyone whos serious let me know if your going to be around utah. I dont climb with people I dont know but Il throw about anyones ass on a top rope in my local climbing holes.

Actually its funny you say that because when our trip is over we'll be staying in australia for a while (dont know how long yet) and we were planning on doing some climbing while we are there (and deep cave diving if i can convince someone to go with me) My fella is a huge rock climber (i think he said since he was 10 or so) and he is dying to teach me how.

Wow this is really scary knowing ill be on a plane for 23 hours tomorrow and then on a boat for 3 more weeks with no computer or anything. Gah this is exciting!

I envy that trip to aussie, I want so damned badley to get there and climb the totem on the coast, if getting to it doesnt kill you a fall from it or a ill timed descent at high tide will.
My brothers a diver, licensed and certifie for teaching and I dont know what all endorsements.
If you want to cave dive its a bsatard, different equipement and different techniques. Hes nearly gotten kille a few times doing it. the only guide tour I know of is in missouri in a flooded mine. aside from that cave diving requires lots of training and shit to do it in any other places. There maybe others, not exactly my thing, but thats all my brothers clued me into. good luck and enjoy your trip Im more then a little envious :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

If it wasnt life threatening, everyone would do it. next year, im planning on going to everest (if i have any money at all left lmao) This is what being young is all about, and if i die im fine with that cause atleast ill die doing something extrordinary. Unfortunatly, no one else is as how do i put this...advernturous as me, even my boyfriend called me crazy for wanting to go cave diving! If we go rock climbing, ill take a picture to make you superbly more jellous

and deep cave diving if i can convince someone to go with meYou're qualified (i.e., formally certified) for overhead diving? Are you an experienced diver? I'm sure you know that cave diving is very dangerous, and it's even more risky if you're not using your own equipment, and even more so if it's metric and you're used to English.

Everest haunts my dreams and has for years, along with other high points like K2 and annapurna.the most realistic way to realize the big E, is to pay a private guide. this last mays going price was about 54,000 per person. Thats the reason I havent made it yet I havent given up Im just not rich enough to fork out that doe yet. A few more years on my mortage and maybe I can swing a second to pay for my climbing ambitions.

Overhead diving yes, i used to go diving a lot when i was younger (13-17), im great with metric (science geek, remember? lol) and i am more then ready to do it. I swear im going to end up being one of those crazy people you read about in magazines that died of doing something incredibly dangerous and fun and no one will get why it was worth it but me .Edit: I dont plan on dying, i read over that and it didnt sound right at all lmao, i just plan on doing everything i can physically do,and when i die some day it wont be in a hospital bed it will be doing something unbelievable.

Could you do Mt Mckinley? it might be a lot cheaper, and its high base-to-peak then everest if i remember correctly. Everest is the only thing id be able to convine my fella to do with me, he's taken back the comment about me being to tame and changed it to: Shockingly crazy. I dont know which is worse/

You are not the only one that desires adventure an your not hte only one thats followed dreams, many people befor have ended up in alaska following osm ethin black line that first showed up on a photograph in a magazine from the camera of Bradford Washbourne. Beofre his fatal trip George Mallory gave an interview and he was asked why he felt the need to climb Everest. His reply was "Because its there"I suspect you can understand that as can many others, not everyone though understands what he meant when he said it.not everyone can embrace dreams that ake you over the edge and may not bring you back, some can, I can and do. If I read about your death sometime someplace doing something that the general population regards as a stupid attempt at fun and a looney thing ot do to begin with, Ill understand and Ill cry for your loss as a kindred spirit died, Ill also be happy for you because you died doing something you loved and not everyone gets that chance. There are worse thing to do and say and much worse ways to die then whatever hirrid crap befalls you in adventure. Old, in bed breathing weak pissing in a bag thru a straw, knowing its coming and wondering when, if any thoughts can enter your head at all, much worse then taking a fall in a ice flow and being crushed to death and ground into bloody meat cicles or freezing at 24000 feet with pulmanary edima drowing you in your own blood.Im rambling, Ill shut up now, have a great trip and much sucess

Im waiting on myself an my 3 climbing partners to get teh right permits and scheduling and that one will be done ar atleast attempted. Iv got dreams of it too, have had for a few years. its a simple matter of cash :laughing::D

PADI (for example) has a specific certification for overhead diving. No one should go with you into a cave unless you have the certification. If you don't have it, of course you can always get it on-site. (Don't forget your dive card.)

> im great with metric

The thing is all of those meters and pascals and such have to make sense even when you're panicking.

I assume you can't carry a lot of stuff, but I'd really, really, at lest like to bring my own regulator and dive computer if I were going diving anywhere. Not sure about the mechanical fittings issue, though.

Edit: By the way, if you're planning on climbing or diving, you should work on getting into shape. If there's a gym down below, you should take good advantage of it.