I'm not going to make this some big essay thing like usual... stop applauding! I just wanted to know this really quick. Like a quicker upper. Quilton's quicker icker upper BOUNTY! Too many tootsie rolls man... woah! Ok, I know that when a guy goes out on a date with a girl they usually pay for the stuff right? Well, why? Why do they have to pay? Why can't the girl pay for her own food? Or the whole meal itself? I know people are saying that it's a "gentleman/manners" thing but what if the girl doesn't want him to? I don't think I've met a girl who didn't want her boyfriend to pay for her or whatever. But this whole thing today with going to the movies after church and him wanting to pay for everything and me not even knowing it was a so called "date" because he never said that and the whole joke about paying hoes... whatever. I just want to know would it be wrong for the girl to do that sort of thing instead of the guy. To me it just seems kind of weird when a guy pays for me... I don't know it just does. This is the 21st century and it seems like everyones manners have disappeared along with their common sense which is why it seems odd. BLAME THE NEW YORKERS! RUDE JERKS! So when I see a guy open the door or pull out a chair it's sort of like "what is wrong with you?" or "what are you doing?" I don't know if anyone else feels this way but I just wanted to see what you think. Domo, gracias, and merci. EDIT: I just realized I said the word "hoe" that was wrong... sorry. I just said it again... nice.
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Is it neccessary?
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Well the whole guy paying for a girl is just tradition. Thats how certain people believe it should be. Ive dated girls who wanted to always go half and half, others wanted me to pay. other times ive had a girl pay one time where i pay another. I think it just depends on the person. Me personally i dont care. If i pay i pay, if she wants to thats fine by me. I always open the door for girls and stuff like that. But if the girl didnt want me to it wouldnt bother me. But thats just me
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The tradition started when guys went into the workforce at about 16, while girls stayed at home with their parents waiting to get married - so only the guy had a source of income. Now that the financial situation is more equal, it seems fairer to pay more equally.
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Why do they have to pay? whole meal itself?
i don't have to pay. i just do cuz it's nice to thing to do...and i want too. my gf has bout me lunch.
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Actually.. I wish more guys were gentleman like that here! It'd be really nice!I have to agree with you though.. I think it is getting to the point where the ladies should step in and give the guys a break! Its really pathetic when i'm selling something to someone and the girl orders and she stands there waiting for him to bust out the wallet!!.. Not cool!
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Yeah I guess I understand what you guys are saying. But I know some guys get uptight about when a girl doesn't want them to do that sort of thing.
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like i said it depends on the guy. I could care less, some guys care because they feel less superior if the woman pays. Why, i dont know, but they do
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It is called "Dutch" when each person pays for their own portion of the bill on a date.
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Yeah, I'm one of those guys that goes out of his way to pay for the girl and do everything else too... I think it is a superiority thing, though. One time, my friend lent me $1 because I ran out of money, and I felt bad for it, haha.
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yeah but it's like they'll take a punch out of it just so they don't feel inferior? sigh... guys are about as complex as the human circulatory system.
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Lol, it isn't that complicated, and it's usually consistent among guys. The superiority thing is just in a guy's nature, and it's usually amplified throughout life. "Superman" and "manners" (treating women with the utmost respect), and all sorts of influences makes a guy feel obligated to do these sorts of things. I guess it makes them feel "powerful" in a sense if they pay for the meal or something. If it was half-and-half, it would generally make me feel like the girl wants to be only friends, haha.
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Is one of your concerns (besides the unfairness, and besides that it makes women seem like they are weak and need to be taken care of) that the guy often has certain "expectations" if the he pays for everything?Trust me. Guys are not that complicated. A simple flow chart would cover most behaviors. Women, on the other hand...
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/Agree... women are more complicated than epistemology.
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I think a flow chart is a fair way to demostrate male thought. As far as a comparison of levels of difficulty for understanding women, I think the most fair would be existentialism.
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Men are procedural. Women are object-oriented.Seriously, I think we're being a bit dramatic.
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I think we're being a bit dramatic.
we?
I thought you weren't the dramatic type?
care to site references to females being "object-oriented?"
It's the other way around. Males are object-oriented, females are people-oriented.
That's why females excel in areas such as socialization, and verbal skills, while men are better are visualization of 3D objects, and mathematics.
That is why some women refer to men's cars as an "extension of their penis" and why young girls play with their friends, and why young boys play with their friends toys. Furthurmore, porn predominantly viewed by men is referenced as the "objectification of women." While women are more interested in a long meaningful relationship.
Hence my analogy.
(quoted from wiki, for lack of a better source, but in general, this is an agreed-upon deffinition)
"Existentialism is a philosophical movement that views human existence as having a set of underlying themes and characteristics, such as anxiety, dread, freedom, awareness of death, and consciousness of existing, that are primary. That is, they cannot be reduced to or be explained by a natural-scientific approach or any approach that attempts to detach itself from or rise above these themes."Where men are interested in trees, women are interested in examining the life of the tree, if the tree does in-fact exsist. :grin:
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care to site references to females being "object-oriented?" Dude, it was a software engineering joke. I'll use footnotes next time.
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**steve your problem, or one of them, is the lack of emotion in any of your posts.............no one knows whether you are joking or being serious at all, you just can't tell and thats why people get annoyed with you and take things the wrong way, and arguments start etc etc, its annoying............when you make a joke, do us all a favour and put in a smilie after it, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort, but it would stop people taking you seriously...........when you are joking. **
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It was a joke. I regret that it inspired a long essay.
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I lost my wallet a little while ago and my girlfriend has been paying for me since! I'm not feeling too guilty because she earns more than me =(.