Don't worry, this has nothing to do with abortion. It's about Clarence Ray Allen, a 76-year-old convicted murderer who was executed recently, after the governor chose not to commute his sentence.From an AP article that appeared in the Boston Globe:In reply to:Having had a heart attack in September, Allen, California's oldest condemned inmate, had asked prison authorities to let him die if he went into cardiac arrest before his execution, a request prison officials said they would not honor.''At no point are we not going to value the sanctity of life," said prison spokesman Vernell Crittendon. ''We would resuscitate him."But the prisoner's heart was strong to the end: Doctors had to administer a second shot of potassium chloride to stop it.''It's not unusual. This guy's heart had been going for 76 years," said Warden Stephen Ornoski.
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America's attitude toward the sanctity of life
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If you're going to kill the guy, then just let him die. It would save so much more tax paying money
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But then you couldn't have your revenge.By damn, we're not gonna let god take him when he thinks best. We've gotta keep him around so we can kill him. The U.S. is such an amusing place.
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Did he not have the right to have a 'Do Not Resuscitate' order in place? Do you lose those rights if you go to prison? Just curious.
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On death row, I think you pretty much lose all of your rights, other than your constitutional right not to be subjected to cruel and unusual treatment (make what you will of that).
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That's the thing!Cruel and unusual treatment, does nobody in America see the Irony in that?I'm neither for or against the death penalty but if you are going to kill someone why make them wait for years and then execute them in some fairly barbaric ways?Rigpig
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Firstly im not a fan of the death penalty anyhow but if your gonna do it why not shoot him immediatly after sentance, the whole leaving someone to rot in prison or whatever is pointless and a waste of money compaired to the price of a bullet or two!
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> why not shoot him immediatly after sentance
If you wrongfully imprison someone, you can let him out and compensate him. If you wrongfully put someone to death, there are no re-dos, so the condemned person needs to be able to explore all avenues of appeal, etc. Still, mistakes are made.
If cost is an issue, then lifetime imprisonment without the possibility of parole would be cheaper.
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That is so sad! More depressing things to add to my day! When will it end? Hopefully he's in a better place.
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I swear, this may have been one of the goofiest stories I've heard in a while. I was thinking of posting something about this when the story came out (yes we Canadians know what's happening down there... any idea what's going on here?)This story gave me some mixed feelings... first of all, I think the death penalty is probably the lowest common denominator of any system of justice. That aside, why would people suddenly decide that this one man should be emmune to the prescribed punishment layed out by their jurisdiction, just because he's old and sick?So, kill some of them, let some die in jail... and what the hell, let a few go!folks are fickle
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That's whacked.I don't know what to say...
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He was being punished for his crimes. Thats why they killed him. To allow him to die of natual causes is giving him more than he gave his victums.
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He'd have been just as dead either way. I don't understand the logic. If you want to torture him then torture him, but the idea of resuscitating him to go through the ritual of strapping him to a table and euthanizing him doesn't really make much sense, does it? I'm not quite clear on how that would benfit his victims.
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In reply to: He was being punished for his crimes. Thats why they killed him. To allow him to die of natual causes is giving him more than he gave his victums. I seriously doubt that's the reason events transpired as they did. I think it's more likely that they were a bunch of idiots who couldn't stand things no working out the way they planned. I'm actually not opposed to the death penalty on rare ocassions, but this is ridiculous.
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I'm not quite clear on how that would benfit his victims. There's the irony of the death penalty right there. The victims are dead, nothing benifits them.
