Right-o pecker wood, time for school, pay attention.Im nto sorting through any of this fucked up thread reading it, just a ismple reply based on what i saw saturday when I was on for a few minutes before I headed out to wendover to do some gambling.Osama...Who fucking cares> what sort of jerk off method is that for deciding? Ohhhhh if I change his name it can read the name of an internationally wanted terrorist!and if I change a letters in my name it be change! Im the candidate for change yeah me!Fucking ridiculous.One more thing while Im ranting, call me sir and Ill break your fucking neck, Im no sir, I work for a god damned living, Im 36, 37 in 2 months, Im not old nad Im not military.the blowjob? WHO THE FUCK CARES, he got blown, what does that have to do with fucking running the country? He passed shit I dont agree with, but at the end of his 8 years the US was on top, he did sign nafta and Im against that horeshit, but he also turned over a surplus, unemployment at an all time low, no wars, no major mishaps, he could get through a speech with out fucking it all up every god damned time he talked, but he got a BJ from a chubby intern, that makes him a shitty president! get the fuck real, of course he lied, his wife standing there youd lie too, and what does him cheating on his wife have to do with him being president? not a fucking thing.Fuck you and fuck your prophets, and I challenge you to give anyone any fucking proof that a prophet exists, that god exists, that anyone does that people pray to, you wnat to base my country s political life on what noone has ever proven? Fuck you.Your a 17 year old punk ass kid, you have no life experience, you have jack shit, you have yet to even finish high school and you think you can sway my judment in who to vote for?policy should be dictated by shit that can be proven, not myths, and legends. I dont debate, I put people in hospitals, some people are to stupid to formulate an argument and they cant base shit on facts, you cant argue with personal opinion, its opinion but if your going to try to influence others, you have to have some facts, memorize that. As Im currently insulating and then sheet rocking and building a closet in the room Im in Ill be busy but around most the day.the room Im typing from Ill be back and forth all day so while your considering personal opinion consider this dipshit;a woman has run many country's in the world, a woman could run this one very well, maybe hillary, maybe not, but a woman could do it.Obama being black means jack shit, nor does his name.but my favorite is that the muslims are all from the area that the christians say jesus was from, and still they dont buy into the shit, if they live there, grew up there, started and formed shit there, for hundreds of years back, why do they not buy the whole god/christ line of shit?Since this is america and you get to buy off into what evre myth and fantasy and big guy in the sky theory ya want, why is it not OK if he was a muslim for him to be president?His dad was a muslim, he hasnt seen his dad since he was fucking 2 years old. He was sworn into office on a book that most peopel have faith in but means jack shit to me, a man is as good as his word and thats that, it doesnt matter what his faith or what book he uses to promise hes not gonna lie. IF you lived with in 50 miles of me Id drive there on your 18th birthday to beat your ass for daring to say pwned to me, fucking geek bastard, get off e net off the xbox and get a fucking life.You see this is no debate its nothing but your personal opinions, and opinions can not be debated, your intelligence of having such idiotic thoughts in your head can however be debated.a family of long line republicans, that tells me your all fucking retarded, republicans have never been anything but for big business, for the rich and fuck the poor and get rid of the middle class. fucking jumped up god fearing bullshit artists, war mongering pieces of shit.at the end of the day your still a snot eating little 17 year old prick with no real life experiences protected by mommy and daddy and their money and never had to do a fucking thing for yourself or make it on your own, come talk to me when your 40 and lets see what your opinions are, you know, after youv had to make some choices and pay some bills and been part of the community at whole instead of just a tax write off for your parents.punk ass geek fucking gamers anyways.Your the same type of idiot asshole redneck fuck as Bush, I wouldnt piss on you to put out a fire.
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An Obama Presidency would be a disaster!!
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Quote: I do NOT want a president who absolutely refuses to salute the American flag or give it the respect it deserves. If you want to take your oath by placing your hand on the Koran instead of the Bible I cannot understand how people still believe this bullshit. Do people not read? Do they not do any research?
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No, noone does, it what makes negative campaign bullshit so effective, its easier to believe bad shit about someone you may already be questioning than it is to look into it and form an opinion of your own.
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Quote:That's unfair Damien. I have listen to her speeches and not to mention her track record she's she a very intelligent and dignified woman. Hate to compare apples to oranges but, Condy is a lot better then Hillary.Hillary started crying... I'm sorry but, that just doesn't cut it when dealing with middle eastern men... "PLEASE DON'T BOMB MY COUNTRY"..I somehow doubt Condy has turned on the water works yet for a political reason...
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you believe that? I dont. I honestly think that was all fake, an appeal to voters to show her human side. she never shed a tear when billy was in the spotlight for a blow job, you think shes gonna cry for real over her campaign? I dont buy it, I think it was faked to show her compassion and realism and relation to the average people and their fears and emotions.
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Originally Posted By: Grvtykllryou believe that? I dont. I honestly think that was all fake, an appeal to voters to show her human side. she never shed a tear when billy was in the spotlight for a blow job, you think shes gonna cry for real over her campaign? I dont buy it, I think it was faked to show her compassion and realism and relation to the average people and their fears and emotions. I can agree with that. it's a smart move to show you are human.
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And I was just thinking... so what if it was real? That doesn't make her weak, it shows she has enough courage to show her true emotions. We've had male presidents who have cried before (shead a tear, not meanning balling their eyes out), but when men do it it's showing they are strong caring men, but when a woman does it it means she's weak. I think that's ridiculous.
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I jsut cant imagine her crying over the bullshti that brought on the tears, shes been through more personal shit than that in the public spotlight and never shed a tear, I believe shes hardened enough to lead the country with out falling ill to her period or crying spells, If Obama fails to make the election to run for president as the demo candidate Ill be voting for hillary.I do however believe that in these days in this time its easier to elect a black man than a woman, thats the biggest reason I threw in behind obama, have contributed to his funding, voted at the caucus, and help work on a volunteer level. I prefer him, and I think he has a better chance of winning, McCain is a fucking monster, and insane, and the obvious republican candidate who has stated he will keep us in iraq for 100 years if thats what it takes. If that cock sucker is elected o steals the presidency, Im out of here, canada, england, scotland, i dont give a fuck any place is better than living here under yet another republican controlled bullshit state.
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lol. I was hoping you would bring this up actually.I do myself think it was fake I am not going to disagree however, its not good either way.If A. its faked then she is trying to get "pity votes". Do we really want a president who won the election simply because we felt bad for her? Should we lower our standards because we feel she deserves to feel better about herself? (Even if it is fake that is how she is hoping to get votes using those concepts). We would be electing with our hearts not our brains. I hate to say it but, if were gunna let a little thing like feelings make us pick a vastly inferior candidate on the basis of making her feel better well we are fucked as a country.So faked or not do we really want someone to win from pity votes?If B. its not fake.. well see what I have already said.
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Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself
I can agree with that. it's a smart move to show you are human.
But isn't it sad, and a bit telling, that she has to fake tears to convince people she's human?
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Originally Posted By: Grvtykllr
McCain is a fucking monster, and insane, and the obvious republican candidate who has stated he will keep us in iraq for 100 years if thats what it takes.
Anyone who actually cares to look at the news honestly and objectively knows that this whole "100 years" story was an intentional, gross misrepresentation of what McCain was saying. He wasn't talking about fighting a war for 100 years. And he wasn't talking about any sort of occupation. He was speaking of a military presence in Iraq of the same kind we have in Japan, Germany and South Korea. And he never said he would "keep us" there. He said he was not opposed to the presence.
This kind of histrionic exaggerations of a candidate's words really cast a much bigger shadow on the folks who perpetuate the myth than the ones who are objects of the myth.
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Quote:But isn't it sad, and a bit telling, that she has to fake tears to convince people she's human? Let's flip this on its head: Were Bush's tears about 9/11 a few years ago fake? Isn't it a bit telling that he had to fake those tears to show people that he's "concerned" about the families of 9/11 victims?
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Amen to that beautiful! On a side note, I tried to bring up some fake tears this morning when a police officer was writing out my ticket for running a red light.....it didn't work.
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Bingo. I was just thinking that. :smile:
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Originally Posted By: ClassyBlackWoman Quote:But isn't it sad, and a bit telling, that she has to fake tears to convince people she's human? Let's flip this on its head: Were Bush's tears about 9/11 a few years ago fake? Isn't it a bit telling that he had to fake those tears to show people that he's "concerned" about the families of 9/11 victims? First of all, I never said that I thought her tears were fake. I tended to believe they were genuine.Secondly, I was responding to the poster's assertion that she faked them to show she was human, a sentiment with which I don't necessarily agree.and C, Do you honestly believe Bush faked tears around 9/11 to "show he was 'concerned'", or are you using the same rhetorical legistics I'm playing with?
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Quote:Secondly, I was responding to the poster's assertion that she faked them to show she was human, a sentiment with which I don't necessarily agree. Chance thought they were fake more so than I, though I can see why some people would see them as being fake. I personally would like to think they were real. But regardless if they were fake or real, my whole point was , politically, it makes sense to show the public you are human.
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Im guilty, Im the one that said they thought they were fake, maybe Im wrong but based on what shes been through before and didnt show a tear or a frown I have a hard time buying they were real now.
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Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfSaying Hillary was basically nothing before Pres. Bill Clinton you are very wrong. She has been working in politics for the past (I believe) 30 years. Get your facts straight. How many other politicians have been working in politics for more than thirty years that no one knew about (in the past 100 years)? A lot. How well known was she before her husband started running for President? Not very. Lots of people have been in politics a long time, but they didn't get a free pass into the spotlight like Hillary did. Neither Hillary nor Obama have any experience in being the President, so the experience argument is moot. Being in the Senate, House, or whatever is in no way the same as being the President of the United States. There have been many great Presidents who had little experience as well as many Presidents who had a lot of experience and who were considered very good during their time before being President but did a horrible job. Experience in one thing doesn't mean you'll be good in another (even if it is similar).
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Obama isnt Islamic. He would be sworn in on the bible, and he does salute our flag.
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Originally Posted By: CiderNeither Hillary nor Obama have any experience in being the President, so the experience argument is moot. No one has experience being president until they become president.As for the experience argument, I've seen it take some really screwy and scary turns. Experience is essential. I think anyone being taken seriously for President should have experience running someting:a state, a city, a business...something, or have a great deal of legislative experience...or something.But the folks that drive me absolutely bonkers are the folks who are saying "Of course experience isn't important. Bush had experience, and look at him." Even if you believe that Bush was a poor president, he wasn't so because he had experience. His experience didn't cause poor performance. That's a ridiculous twist of logic.But I agree, an argument between Obama and Hillary over experience is kind of moot. Neither one of them have enough to be President.