also some advise, i dont think knoking out a bully that has alot of friends is a good idea because he will surly come back but with more people
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Bullies...how to deal with them?
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OKay I saw angels response to unforgetto. Well here is something for all of you that have been out of school for awhile. Telling the teacher is actually a good way to make things worse. What it does is increase how much they pick on you b/c all the teachers can do initially is warn the bullies. So I mean it is a good idea at heart, but bullying has expanded to gangs, and well telling on them is not a good option. Plus if it is a gang member fighting is not the best option either, they will just try and gang up on you. (that happened to me once and the surrounded me b/c i made fun of one of them and they tried to start a fight, so I just pushed 2 of them out of the way and kept walking.) I mean you have to decide what is best for the bullies in your situation. If iti s to go to the teacher do it, but if not stand up to them or do something different.
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Well here is something for all of you that have been out of school for awhile. I take it by that you don't think that 'in our day' we had bullying....... Well Jon it appears i am in the minorty about this, and i have my reasons for saying that going through something like that without telling someone, anyone, can be dangerous(the case of the 15 year old i posted above, i worked with his mother while she went through hell), however, everyone says don't tell, ignore them, and if that doesn't work fight back so unforgetto seems to echo what everyone else thinks.
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For guys especially, it does cause it only little problem when you tattle. But what people need to think about is kids/teens aren't some other sort of thing. They are adults in training. What they learn to do as teens/kids they will likely do as adults. If they don't learn to properly cope with problems now they aren't going to suddenly turn 18 and magically know who to handle things. If some a$$ trips an adult he cannot get up and punch the guy out as far a the law is concerned. It would not be self-dence either so he would be guilty of a crime. We need to teach them to deal with these problems the same way they will be expected to deal with them as adults. If an adult is assaulting another adult, they can either put up with it or call the police. They cannot legally resort to self-help.
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no did not mean bullying I meant gang related bullying. I have a feeling you do not have much experience with that. Telling on a bullying does nothing as far I have seen in school. I mean you get them in trouble but it will make it worse. I do not agree in fighting, but if you are cornerd kicking the guy in the balls and running is okay. Do what you have to to get away, if you are tripped ignore that.Ignoring bullies can be the best way to stop being made fun of. Don't your problems, but if you get made fun of just ignore and do not get abbied by people that is the wrong way to go about it.
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Yeah, the best way to deal with it is kick the FUCKING SHIT OUT OF THEM. Even if you fail get a few good painful memorable hits on them before you go down. then they'll know your not gonna take that shit anymore. they won't do it again. if they do, you hit them again, and again until they get the message. Thats how i dealed with it. only thing was they didn't come back for seconds. But if they did, even if he came with a load of mates i would rather get the shit beat outta me rather than let the bastards have their way. JUST HIT THE FUCKERS. good luck buddie and remember, if you can't hit them hard enough pick something up and then hit them hard enough Also aim for the nose, or the side of the head with some good solid elbo's
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Yeah thats real fucking intelligent, lets have a minor take a gun to school. Thta means he is breaking the law on several counts. It also solves nothing and only causes more problems.You kidding? I thought you alread had a chat with Helms about offering bullshit advice so either your already breaking your warning or your proving yourself to be a fool.
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ok umm your telling a 13 yr old kid to use weapons and fight it out, I don't think that is appropriate at this time since all there doing right now is just trying to trip him and throwing snowballs at him... before he does something like what you are suggesting and "knock the bully out using weaponss" he should just try and put up with it for now and not give the bullies any satisfaction in flipping out, which is all they are looking for to just to get a laugh. If the bullies do take it up to the next level then some action should be taken, but just try and remember you are a advanced student with straight A's, think of where the bully is goin to be in the future and where you will be... if someone really pisses me off thats what I do
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In reply to: Well Jon it appears i am in the minorty about this Well, if you are, I am too. But we're right.Okay, I don't often do this, but I'm going to claim "expert" status on this one. Not because I was bullied as a kid, but because over the past few years I have done extensive research in the area of bullying - what it is, prevention, long-term effects, etc. I've also taught bully prevention to grades 1-8, as well as done a presentation for the faculty. The first thing you must do is TELL AN ADULT TELL AN ADULT TELL AN ADULT!!! I can't say it enough. TELL AN ADULT. It is their responsibility to protect you and stop the behavior. You should also, as others have said, speak up for yourself. Not emotionally. Just say "stop doing that". I don't care who you are - good kid, bad kid, likeable, dork, dweeb, asshole, whatever - you have the right to be safe in school If you aren't, your school is doing something wrong. Get your parents involved. Bullying is about power. They think they have power over you, they'll continue to bully you. You use the power around you (adults) to help you, the bullying can stop.Good luck. PM me if you need more help.
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Angel used to bully me, until i drop kicked her back to tomorrow! :-) jk of course
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fighting a gang member is a horrible thing to do, and using weapons is bad also. You dont have to fight u can just show them that you wont put up with it. also maybe u should try to take karate or start working out to show them not to mess with you.
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picture yourself doing that to say bruce lee, the guy who is doing the bullying is usually can kick your ass.
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0.o A lot of replies there.
I thank all of you for your help. Especially Damien and Angel.
I AM working out, and I DID take jujitsu, until I went to Ice Hocky conditioning practice with my brother (I don't play, I just went to CP's) then when that was over I never went back...I'll consider it again, but I got braces, and that had my face mashed into the ground a few times... :scream_cat:
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In reply to: I have to disagree young sir Cut the patronizing bullshit. I'm quite sure I'm your elder. I'm almost certain I'm your intellectual superior - especially on this topic. In reply to: Calling an adult and as a bully would call it, "acting like a pussy" does nothing to help that Wrong, young sir. How many research articles would you like me to post showing how wrong you are? In reply to: In reply to: You need to stick up for yourselfI have found that using your sense of humor to your advantage is a good idea Yes. Both of these statements are very true.Don't argue with me on this one.
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My uncle hates to fight, deplores it, he told me he never won and he didnt like to be hit so he got off alot of shit with a sense of humor. I am sticking to my way however of striking back.
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I'll beat your ass and fuck your mother"I like that, I may use it in the future.I never fucked anyones mom after busting their ass but I have been known to pull out my dick and piss on people that are laying on the ground bleeding and don't want to get back up after Iv smacked em.I couldn't thing of anything else to do that would add more insult to injury.
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In reply to: why would I argue with you, you just agreed with me Not on all points, I didn't.
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i'm supposing ur in middle school, well, it'll get better in highschool because people have matured a bunch more. Because i used to get bullied sooo much in elementry and middle school, but in highschool nobody does it to me anymore. for ur current problem, i'd say just stand up to them and say stop it really loud, and if they hit you just go tell a teach and they'll take care of it.
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Oooh angel I didn't finish my post off properly I think..!! I didn't mean not to tell an adult.
What I truthfully think people should do, my opinion on the best course of action, is to let an adult know what is happening and learn to stand up for yourself. You should keep a record of every time something happens to you in a book or something, with the time and date. Then you can show the frequency of the attacks (verbal, physical, mental bullying) and have someone act on it with a list of what is happening.
To learn to stand up for yourself is important.. if you can do this without actually acting physically it would be better. Bullies generally only act like shits when they are with a group of other people as an audience, as I have said to angel before... they blow someone elses candle out to make theirs shine brighter. They are trying to make themselves look good by making someone else feel like shit. Its cowardly and stupid! -
The reason there are so many dipshits in the world is because people like you actually raise kids. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!! yeah people like me raising kids huh, people who teach them right from wrong, to be themselves, and to be decent people, fuck your mother did a bad job with you. I would like to see how you would bring up three kids, all top of the class EVEN a blind child, they all have lots of extra curricular stuff, all popular, all well liked, very thoughtful, none of them are selfish..........Hang on why the fuck am i justifying my parenting skills to you, You are a bully, thats about the most hurtful hateful thing anyone has ever said to me, bet you are soooo fucking proud of yourself you PRICK!!!!!!!