Angry?

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In reply to: Have we really become such the generation of mamby-pamby-ultra-tolerant-please-don't-offend wimps that being passionate is offensive now? I believe we must make a decision eiither to believe in whats acceptable (and soem people genuinely have these views anyway so its easier for them), or learn not to care when people take offence (though its not civil to go out looking to cause offense a la Marilyn Manson, or people that come onto forums to tell ya how much they hate some group of people).

ive had some very exotic angry messages i can tell you. I really wasnt trying to be smart, i wonder if the angry kids just wanted an angle to gripe at me because i perhaps said things that were very honest and in their face? im not sure, though im thick skinned ive worked with angry young men before. How are you anyway?

You say what you say in a calm manner, which people often take as afront, like your trying to be better than them. Haha but it gives one a great sense of satisfaction I find. Sometimes I have my slips, but try too remind myself of something I read somewhere..."To beat a man at politeness is the greatest victory of all".

I like your style. in the immortal words of Oscar wilde "A gentleman is one who does not offend another unintentionally". Wahts the weather like in Leeds nice and sunny for a change here in Newcastle, it is and i hope will remain decidedly sping.

I offend people unintentionally sometimes, including in an ongoing thread here, but I'll take to heart that quote, not like I wish to upset people. Funny I dont recall it, while I remember alot of the best things he wrote, I commend your literary knowledge.Ah its same over here, though apparantly it will soon change to light showers

Leeds is a perrenial place of spring showers thats why i loved living there. 10 years since and i remeber the dappled showers of fine rain, then the sun on your face and the smell of drying rain against blues sky white whispy clouds with meanacing dark belies threatening the next deluge. enjoy the place i did.

I'm used to the South-West, where for the last couple of years summer never really seemed to end...ahhhhhBut yes, thanks, Leeds has the potential to be great

Hun Angry is the last word I would describe you as. You are VERY passionate, which is one of the things I really like about you. Hell was probably the number one reason that drew me to you and I hope you never lose that.Ignore any PM's you receive about people trying to judge your character. People will always try and degrade your self worth, but just remember they must feel pretty bad about themselves if they have to take the time to send a PM to be hateful.Keep your chin up babe, you’re an awesome person who’s going to be a terrific therapist!

Ya know Iv taken my laptop apart 3 times so far trying to fix the damn runaway f's, I can not find a damned thing wrong with it!I think it maybe time for me to get a new lap top, or start using the 3 desktops I have around the house, but none of them are portable to follow the 2 year old and none of them are by the tv so I think instead you all wil have to suffer with my self serving self inserting random f's Im going ot try taking it apart again and looking at the pieces like Im going to solve something one more time...but not till later tonight or uhhh in the next few days.

since I am constantly trying to offend SOMEONE am I gentlemen ? I mean Im offending someone intentionally, I just am never sure who that someone is, could be anyone around me, I tend to offend spcific people by being direct like slapping a guy in the mouth and calling him puddin, that offends him fbut if Im in line or walking thu the supermarket and I rip off a loud fart, that offends someone, and I did it on purpose but it didnt offend everyone who heard it as some people dont really care, all this oposed to farting in an elevator, where everyone is offended no matter what, normally I lie to walk off the elevator for that and as the doors cose stick my ass back and fart as loudly as I can muster and coax it from my bowels, make sur the people i the back heard it as well, if your going to do it loudly its for effect only because the smell is enough on its own to offend.so what now ? am I gentlemen or not? I do these things to offend someone but do not have a specific target picked out, its just put out for who ever hears and happens to be disgusted and repulsed.

Okay, bottom line...
So I started this thread asking a question I wish I hadn't asked, and I got answers to questions I didn't ask. I felt a lot of comments about me were unsolicited, and they were, but looking over this thread I can see how I kind of invited them. Jon, ME, and whoever else...you have to know that I lay in bed last night thinking about the things you said about me wondering if they are true or not...kind of soul searching. That would not have happened if you had been silent. So while it still feels to me a bit like you jumped the gun and made some pretty unfounded observations, I still on some level have to thank you. I don't want to be arrogant and cocky. I'm not arroagant and cocky, so I certainly will be careful to not come across as such on here. As for seeking approval...I will still tell you that I was not doing that here. Not that I'm not as prone to that as anyone else is, but that's not what this about. So I didn't like that comment. Okay, wahhhh. I'm over it. But you should know that the reason I got drawn into to the little tit-for-tat with ME is not because I can't take criticism. Those suggestions here that I can't take people disagreeing with me were probably the most erroneous of all. But I do have a tendency to argue the daylights out of something if I know I'm right. I find it hard to let it go. I've actually gotten better at that around these parts.
So the bottom line is:

• I am not an angry person. I know that. (Although I am getting ready to post a very angry response to someone else on this thread. I hopa ya'll can handle it...hell, I hope I can handle it.)
• I am not by nature cocky or arrogant. But Jon kind of made me realize that sometimes my directness, or my taking to task what I perceive as stupidity, can be construed as cockiness and arrogance. I'll watch out for that.
• I do not come here seeking approval. I get that in my real life. I want to be liked, just like everyone. But When I start at thread it is for information, not approval. Believe what you want. But that's the fact.

Can we stop this now?
Well, I mean after I post this VERY ANGRY response to someone I've actually tried to get along with.

Who the hell do you think you are, questioning my integrity, you little dipshit! I have not tried to ridicule or oppress anyone here and I have no reason to be ashamed.You, on the other hand, are the most pretentious, bi-polar, judgmental poster I have ever seen on this board.As for your "recently acquired knowledge" and "dis-ingenuous performed persona" comments, you are so clever I can hardly contain myself. You, buddy, don't even know who you want to be on this board. Are you the academic with the flowery phrases and big words? Or are you the compassionate person trying to help? Talk about poorly performed.Finally, don't you fucking EVER question my integrity the way you just did!!! How fucking dare you suggest that I am dependent on the misery and depression of kids to make myself feel better. You should be fucking shot for that. I care about these kids, just like I care about the kids I see in my real life. You can't imagine the kind of concern and compassion I have for kids who are just trying to keep it together and getting slapped around at ever turn. For you to say that I love that they are hurting because I get some kind of kickback from it is unbelievably stupid and derogatory. I'm not going to spend any more energy on here. Just know that I think thay you are a vicious, judgmental, hack with zilcho credibility who is attempting to build credibility here by attacking others he sees as threatening. We disagreed on another thread. I got over it and even underscored the good words you saying to others. You apparently haven't and apparently need to discredit me for your benifit.Did it work for you?Yes, that was anger.And I'm fine with it.

I think you all need to cut this nonsense. Why do we always have to have these big "declarations/statements" and then everyone gets into a tizzy? Take it outside.

LOL this is funny. Damien bro just chill it is okay. Let people do what they want. Not going to be able to change them they can only change themselves if they make the choice to. I would relax, those that know you, like you and said you are not angry....so it is okay.

If your laying awake at night worring about the things said on this site to and about you, you need to take some time off, a few days, shit a week, go get drunk, screwed blewed and tattooed, we can argue politics and discuss books next week.

Damien please forgive my petty torments. i did in part engineer that post to draw anger from you which i detected from your first correspondance.Firstly here is a decleration:COYS AND OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD REMAIN UNDER THE WING OF DAMIEN, AFTER READING ALL HIS POSTINGS TO THEM I BELIEVE HE IS USEFUL AND BENIFICIAL TO THEIR SITUATION.Well Damien, welcome to reality do you see how engendering emotions in others assauges paranoia and anxiety. I bet you got a good night sleep after telling this dip shit he should be fucking shot, and the pleasure you would have if you held the fucking gun, admit it was indeed, spectacular.Now i do need to clear up one issue. I did not say you "depend on the misery of kids to feel better" no Damien they are as is posted for all to cross reference your words. My point was unlike the kids with depression (thus being unable to focus on anything clearly beyond themselves) the postee's on this forum were able to focus on you, judge you and is so far as you wanted to present yourself, they in their own minds found you wanting.Here is why,1, you ask an open question in your forum but expect a closed answer. 2,Any statment that detracts form your constructed persona is seen as "erroneous" or "unsolicited". This is your attempt at remaining in charge, and in control of others.3, you ask who am i? since my respoces appear incosistent to different people. This makes clear your need to know at all times who you are. You consider it a virtue to have it all together and be able to see in your mind your identity. once in a while when you feel you have to offer a little self abatement to remain credible to people here, you offer a little pseudo-humitlty that probally kept you on the border line of not being thrown off your therapists training. Finally as i have said having a perspective of who we are in our minds almost like thinking about a character played by an actor tells me that sort of person is in the business of inventing themselves for an audience, that as you know is a type of narcissicm.(all say amen).i Damien dont know who i am, nor should I. I am constructed of many different facets all of which are genuine open responces that are not curtailed and hyper managed by my ego. I am spontanious and fearless of what others think of me, i am not trapped with Lacan in a hall of mirrors and smoke screens. If you want me help you with your narcissim i would be happy to, you deserve assistance since you help others.However since you think i am deserving, you could get one of the homicidal manaics on the forum to visit Great Britain and have me"fucking shot".So sayeth the sheppardso sayeth the flock.

Though I understand your underlining message, I think you haven't been on this site long enough to judge a persons character. One thing you are right about is that Damien is useful and beneficial to this site. He's one of the people on this site I know if I needed some help I could go to, and would trust his opinion.

It's part of human nature to reassure one's self they are being fair and true. Damien was not asking for his self worth to be identified, he simply wanted to make sure he was not being an angry person on the site. I think it was pretty point blank. Sometimes people cannot see themselves in a situation, so it's hard to detect if they are being fair and level headed.

On an Internet website it's easy to judge a person on many different spectrums, from race, sex, sexual orientation, and religion (the list could go on). But before you go calling someone out on his or her character, get to know him or her first. If you don't, you could be truly judging a wonderful, caring human being, which you have done.

Take care and this post was meant in the most sincere way.

You are extremely condescending in everything you say. You don't know Damien well enough, or at all, to judge his character in a fair assessment. Thats like me calling you a prick because I've only seen a few posts that you've made, where you're acting like a prick.

Methinks its because you use the F to many times

OK. The sentiment he may be a special careing person is true. The ideology of thinking we must know someone before we judge is in part false.You would appear to want to judge someone from a experiential perspective.That in itself offers a paradox. The more we know a person the less we are able to disinguish ourselves from themselves.Im not dismissing your perspective but i would argue it is one of many valid systems though not the only.Damien is indeed a remarkable person however my assault was to ascertain could he remain in the business of self love while denying the self of always feeling good about itself.my critique is perhaps more directed to his self construction of a therapist. And using your very own philosophy (experiential judgement) the ulitamte problem an intuaitve feeler like damien will encounter is on occasion assigning no meaning to emotion. The buddhists call it grasping. I would however say the last post constituted a narcissitic pride injury to himself on which i have offered my support and help.Damien is a big boy he can take it, well, he must indeed learn to in his new job. The postings i issue are no less focused or intense than that which was said to my face when i had a job like his.Good day citizen.