I found out a long time ago that prayer helps nothing. Think about it...One plane carrying 180 passengers goes down and most of them are praying for saftey...180 people die. Another plane of 210 passengers goes down and most are praying for the same thing and 200 people die.....is that god? Was it a miricle? no, both crashes were different which results in lifes saved or lost either way, the praying never helped. As w2ell as in my personal life, I have prayed for many things, health of others, my direction in life, jobs, and crises. None were answered, I had to do everything myself. The human mind is the ultimate controller in your destiny, not god. I have never seen a miracle or knew anyone who has wittnessed an absolute miracle. When lets say your child dies on the operating table after 100's of people praying, is that a miracle or just a will of god? Does god want this little child to die?I knew a family that lost thier son in an automobile accident, then lost thier daughter the same way 6 months to the day. They were very strong beleivers until the second child died, now they have no beliefs.
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Does god exist?
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well see thats where it becomes a problem,its all well and good when they want to believe in something for security and all around warm fuzzies and the ability to blame some dude with a pitchfork when something bad happens ,until someone starts a war,what i dont like is seeing people preaching at frickin intersections,i was driving the other day and there were 3 people out on the side walk yelling out bible verses and telling people to praise god and i swear i just wanted to let go of the wheel and say "oops did i do that?" but i had to settle for going slower with my window down and evil disturbed up
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this is why me no likey
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lol I'm sorry angel just speaking...er typng out loud
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Im not even gonna read over the thread.. because I'll probably get pissed off..All Im going to say is that..Who can really prove if there is a god or isn't a god.. Sure I can find lots of facts that will prove there is.. but who is anybody to tell another person that there isnt a god if the other person believes in it.. no one can change the other persons opinion.. why can't they just accept it.. its not like i'd go to a muslim person and say "your god is fake.. mine is real" NEVER
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in reply to the praying why do you think gods wants you to pray maybe we are supposed to skip in cirlces 5 times and put pencils up our noise to pray to god , BUT religon has fed you bullshit about putting your hands togther , relgion lies , becouse religion is know a business ,
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Praying isn't JUST putting your hands together and kneeling down... You don't have to do that in order to pray. Praying is more of a sacred spiritual connection with the god (or gods, goddess, or goddesses) that you worship. Wikipedia says that: "Prayer is an effort to communicate with a deity or spirit, including a monotheist God, Saints, gods within a pantheon, or others; either to offer praise, to make a request, or simply to express one's thoughts and emotions. The words of the prayer may either be a set hymn or incantation, or a spontaneous utterance in the devotee's own words."
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exactly exactly exactly! thank you. And I've gone through and experienced alot of stuff to realize that yeah wow there's got to be a god but that's just my opinion.
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Just the same, I gone through enouph hell on earth that I know that there is no god.
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you mean you think just like I think otherwise your knowledge might be questionable lol when I say experience I don't mean times of trouble or whatever, I mean something else which is knda hard to explain
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Please explain or pm me if you dont want everyone involved, sounds interesting.
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I believe in god, bad shit happens but if he came down and stopped it he would be taking away the freedom of you and others. Example somone robs your house "why didnt god do anything" because if god stopped everyone from robbing houses he would be taking away the freedom of people who do so. I thought about the existance of god and its truely impossiable to prove either way.
The reasons why people belive god doesnt exist are their own opinions eg. I have cancer and I am dying and dont deserve it so god must not be real. Or I found $1000 in my panties its a gift from god so he must be real, both are opinions based on no facts at all and both bull shit. If god came down and went oi el bitches i want all this war to stop and everyone to be happy how many people whould belive in god? EVERYONE would because you would be able to see him and have proof he exists, you would think oh shit I better suck up and brown nose jesus or I am going to hell. This he would be forcing the world to be peacefull and wasnt that satans plan in the bible or somthing like that? The purpous of being here if you belive in god is to determine your after life, be it heaven or hell, but the only true way to judge people on such an extreme issue is by their actions and a fair trial, if god came down and stopped mr rapist raping your aunt jane then the rapist would never have comited rape thus you cant judge somone for a crime they didnt commit. Anyway these subjects are fucking stupid most people are totaly underknowlaged when it comes to god and they bull shit they know loads about it then jump on the I hate jesus bandwagon. Then it ends up turning into a stupid and pointless argument of underknowlaged people arguing about somthing neither of them know shit about. Like any subject if you want to form an opinion you need to know lots about it so how about you go read through all the litriture about god which is a good few years of reading then form an opinion. I garentee no one here gives a fuck enough to do that so no one here should be entitled to arguee with others about a subject they know so little. So basicaly everyones entitled to their opinions but bare in mind there is a good chance yours is wrong.
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I see it like this. There must be something for creation purposes as far as there being one to bless us all, I am not sure.
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So your saying that if god stopped someone from being raped and killed that he then took the freedom and rights of the rapist away? Oh yeah now I believe fo sho.
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though I'd rather much believe that some created all of this than think that it just bang happened
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well technically thats how we happened,our parents banged lol,but seriously who came up with the NAME for the "big bang theory" cause that sounds like something by niece might say other than theory
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Why do people say that they "know" that God does or does not exist? You can believe it, but without proof there is no way for you to know. And a lack of proof or a series of certain ill-fates incidents are not seen as proof.
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exactly lol "the big bang" which I believe more more people would accept if it didn't sound so.. ludicrous. Not meaning to offend but it's very hard to believe that something as detailed as the nervous system or the process of the atmosphere being just right at a certain distance for humans to breathe just happened unexpectedly, you know.
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oh i never said the theory sounds crazy i said i didnt give a flying fuckamaroo,i said the NAME is stupid
heres something to live by "live life get paid then get laid that is the basic philosphy of the Finchmeister"
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Thats what evolution is. Not just biological evolution but the development of atoms! Hydrogen becoming Helium and then becoming the other 100 or so elements. There are forces in the universe that are there, they can be explained and have been monitored. Of course the Big Bang Theory is just that, just a theory. But so is the existence of God.