Wow..this is horrible

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I love my dog, but as a pet. Mentally, dogs are animals, and only have a certain depth of thought. A dog, when met with a new, kind person, will return to you because you 're more familiar to him, not because he likes you more. Thus, if you leave your pet with a relative for along enough time, he will slowly prefer them because of familiarity. It's all about natural instinct. Kindness > Abuse, Familiar > unfamiliar. That's what a pet sees. On top of that, they aren't "evil" because we've trained them that meanness gets bad results, peeing the house is wrong, biting is bad, and if you eat my dinner again, I will slap your muzzle. That's what they know,so they don't. From my knowledge of scientific research and journals is that animals aren't capable of love, although it does seem that way sometimes. However, they are capably of Companionship, which is often times what we need most.

I was being figurative, but I appreciate the sarcasm. Not really.

yea it's true they don't speak english, french or spanish but acually animlas do speak. they speak with expressions and movements and stuff. They speak with out using sounds. no they can't have a conversation with you but that don't mean they can't love their owner unconditionally. Some people are very ignorant to the mind of animals. While yes people are above animals that don’t mean animals don’t feel. But fuck It’s not worth trying ………. People think what they think and there is no changing it.

Originally Posted By: CR125Some people are very ignorant to the mind of animals. While yes people are above animals that don’t mean animals don’t feel. But fuck It’s not worth trying ………. People think what they think and there is no changing it. thanks for that. no need for the rudeness though. I've had enough of that this week. I'm not saying animals can't love. I know they can. And I know for a fact they can be more loyal than human beings. But the thing is, you and that clixx dude have your definition of unfailing unconditional love and I have mine. I've only felt that kind of love from one and only one being. No animal, no human. Still, I don't doubt the love of an animal especially a dog. I've had bad memories regarding dogs. I love dogs... well not more than I love horses. That's what I want! a horse! sorry.. but yeah it's hard to let things like that go with some of the things I've had to.. nevermind you wouldn't understand. but I agree with what you're saying. and I don't really think what I just said made sense but whatever.

your welcome.rude? hummm... i thought i was being a ass.

same difference lol

Originally Posted By: deek

i will never support peta im still agianst fur but i eat meat and stuff and o yeah FUCK YOU PETA AND EVERYBODY WHO IS FOR PETA O YEAH FUCK CHINA

I nominate this for one of the most ignorant/utterly stupid posts on this board. This is in reference to "FUCK CHINA."

Oh, and the one thing I like about PETA is the fact that they care about cruelty to all animals, not just the cute ones (fish being one group they care about). I hate it when people say they don't like people hunting but then go around and say they have nothing against fishing. It's the same fucking thing, except the fish feel more pain. I hate hypocrisy like that.

Originally Posted By: CiderIt's the same fucking thing, except the fish feel more pain. How do fish feel more pain?

In most cases, a bullet causes instant death. When you fish, you're pulling the fish by it's mouth/throat with a hook for a decent amount of time.

Ah, I got'cha.

Okay, to whoever said that their dog wakes them up in the morning: Bad, that is very bad. Do not allow your dog to wake you up.And it's arguable whether or not animals love... A lot of species mourn deaths of members of their pack, pride, whatever, so you could say that in order to mourn them, they loved them. But I would bet, almost 6 times out of 10, dogs do not love their owners, even if their owners love them unconditionally. Which is really the problem. Too many people love their dogs, no matter what, when their dogs sure as hell would never do the same to them. I mean, how much is your dogs going to trust and love you if you beat it every night? But how many people coo and cuddle their little poodle after it's bitten them and their kids? Dogs will never unconditionally love anyone.

I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe.

I believe he does. You're not going to change that. However I appreciate the effort, I guess.

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actually, very few beasts are felled in the first shot. Also, there have been a lot of fish tortured in the name of answering the "do they feel pain" question (ironic isn't it?). I think it's pretty safe to say that they have pain receptors but you can't equate their type of pain to your own. A fish's brain is way more simple than our own.I can also say this... PETA is simply full of bullshit (watch the video). I hope all you pet owners realise that you're in violation of PETA's doctrines

well i don't watch the videos cuz i know my stomach can't take it.
i;ve seen shit in real ife, my mom has called abuse shelters a time or two and we have a mare that we got from one of those calls mom made about the horses being abused.
She still has a few issues but the horse now is healthy and not near as jumpy and spooky as it was. we still can't pick up sticks or tune on clippers around her but we can bet her anyplace we want too.

mom had a friend that turned in a breeder for abusing his young horses so he could get the insurance checks after they died.
we once saw a man littlerly beat his horse in the head while he was on it till it feel to it's knees at a horse show. (yes he was tuned in and stopped)

none spotted cows (black and white spotted cows are dairy cows only) , hogs and chickens are only bred to eat... and i will keep on eating them. it's law now that the animal is put to sleep b4 it is slaughtered... and horse slaughtered for glue and dog food now is supposed to be illegal. (at least it what i have heard)

Sadly as long as there is humans and animals there will be abused animals just like there will always be abused kids. Some people just need a bad ass kicking.

PETA would probly try to put my mom out of breeding business cuz we have mares that have foals every year. lol while PETA is for a good thing (not being abusive) they just... i dk the word. I mean like hunting.. i see nothign wrong with deer hunting as long as you eat what you kill or give the meat to a family that need it. but those fuckign hunters that just kill for the kill..... they need their guns took away.

i'm done with this thread now.

Almost every animal my dad or I have shot have died on the first shot (that hit). This especially goes for birds. And I wasn't comparing a fish's type of pain to a human's; I was comparing a fish's type of pain to another animal's.

Yeah, but it's not about beliefs, it's psychology, animal behaviour. And you are potentially screwing your dog up with your "beliefs." How about what your dog wants? What your dog would get if it were out in the wild, in a pack? So, to all those people who don't give a shit if their dogs bite other people... Good job, I'm glad you could be so firm in your beliefs.

My dog bit me on accident once. One swift (but not too hard) smack across the muzzle, and he never bit me again. He's well trained, but you can't let things just slide with animals. Otherwise they'll ignore their training.

I hunt, and fish, Iv killed dozens of large animals including deer, elk, bob cat, hundreds of birds, a few ducks nad geese, thousands upon thousands of rabbits, anyones guess is as good as mine on fish, I have some really nice gloves that are fur lined, as well as a russian hat thats all fur. Why dont you, drag your little punk ass over to my place and gut me, season the meat over night, pull off all the skin, and tan my hide?Ill give ya the fucking address, say when.In addition to my sins, I have run several trap lines, killed and greened hundreds of muskrat, coyote,and other fur bearing animals and sold their hides for a considerable amount of cash over the years.I eat more meat than possibly anyone here, there is no meal in my house that does not have some meat in it, and Im fond of a large variety of animals being turned into poop in my intestines.do any research on peta? Did you know they belive in human extinction so animals can live?Fuck peta, Fuck peta members, any of you members that would like to take up an issue with me in person, Ill be more than happy to meet you on any weekend in Salt Lake City Utah, just let me know when.Your the same as the fucking jesus nuts, tell me who to pray to and when, eat a dick! I dont tell you to not pray, get off my ass about what i do, I dont force peta members to eat meat, stop trying to tell me Im not allowed to, I got news for ya son, a salad is a side dish, always has been, always will be, it goes good with a steak.For the record, I LOVE veil, cute little baby cows taste delicious!

oh dear me, that sounds like pure carnivor rage!if you were a nice vegan, you would be so much calmer... and certainly devoid of the energy required to type a full paragraph.

Meat tastes like murder and murder tastes pretty god damned good!