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I was eating my third Big Mac today and I was getting that greasy stuff all over my hands. I didnt even really think about it but instead of using a napkin I felt compelled to lick it all off of myself. Right then I had a revelation. I looked down at myself and realized what a fat slob I have become. In high school I was a star quarterback and now my wife wont even touch me intimately anymore. I cant see my feet or my genitals. I started to alternate between laughing histarically and crying right there in front of a bunch of people in McDonalds. They have those narrow seats there and when I tried to get up and leave really fast because I was emberassed, I got stuck for a minute. That made the teenagers next to me start laughing at me. I was really crying then and I heard a little girl ask her mommy what was wrong with that fat man. I lost it today and threw the rest of my milkshake at them. I went home and now I dont want to leave the house. Ive eaten every Little Debbie snack in the whole house and Ive been crying for hours. Nobody loves me and everyone thinks im a freak. I tried to talk to my wife and she left to stay at ther mothers for a while with the kids. I really need some friends.

What you need to do is identify the problem's in your life, and fix them. It sound like your problem is poor eating habits, and that can be fixed, but it takes alot of effort. First off, you need to stop eating at mcdonalds, nothing on their menue is healthy, not even the salads really. You need to go through your house and throw away all the fat foods and snacks and replace them with fruits and vegetables. Grapes for instance are very tasty, and their not bad for you at all. You need to cut down on the amount you eat to, when you start to feel a little full, thats it, no more. NO SECONDS! And you don't need desert. Lean meats and sea food should be your new best friend. If you eat sea food make sure it's boiled or grilled, not fried. Actually don't eat fried foods period.No more french fries, when you go to a restaurant and get a burger with fries, the fries usually have more calories and fat than the burger itself, replace fries with a baked patatoe if you can.No more sodas, they contain a ton of high fructose corn syrup, which should be avoided. Instead drink water.And last but not leaste, EXERCISE! You have to do something physical if you want to burn that fat, if you practice good eating habits with a good workout the weight will melt off. remember the only person who can do anything about your weight is yourself, you have the power to change things. Anytime somebody makes fun of you, or you look in the mirror and are dissapointed with yourself, don't go crying to the food, hit the damn track, because that should be your motivation to lose the weight. In the words of the great Rob schnieder YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

Thank you Helmsman. To day I started off on the right foot and had an apple and apple sauce for breakfast, (yeah, I added cinnamon) And was feeling really good all day as for lunch I had a small sandwhich with no mayo, just abologna and cheese. I was in an energetic mood and almost stopped at Burger King on the way home before I realized my propblem. I look forward to eating and masturbating all day and when it finally arrives, It wasn't as grand as I expected. "well, maybe if I eat another plateful I can be happy." or, "Maybe if I download an asian porn, I'll climax longer." But the truth is, it just doesn't. I need to work my way back wards where eating a burger and masterbation in spur of the moment with out all day to contemplate about it. I was feeling depressed at the thought of this and broke down and ate nine slices of pizza, (with a salad), and smothered it in mayonase and ranch. Tomorrows a new day right?

I tell you what, its a relief to find that there are other people in the world like me who mix eating and masterbation. I had a girlfriend once a long time ago who HATED it when id order take out and eat and masterbate at the same time. For some reason I cant masterbate to food that I cook, it always has to be food that someone ELSE cooked and even then preferably BROUGHT to me. I guess that sounds kind of wierd. I also like it better when its some kind of food besides american food, something about chinese or japanese food that does it for me. Mind you I dont feel compelled when I eat hommade food, but I usually cant stop thinking about masterbating anyway. Somewhere along the lines of doing this I realized that I had created a need for food and masterbation together that was unhealthy. When I eat I get horney, especially eating out. When I masterbate I get hungry. So now the two are hopelessly entertwined. Im a big guy, so usually if I get an erection at Denny's or Burger king people cant tell when I stand up. Sometimes they can tho, and thats lead to some emberessing situations. I remember one young server at Jose Pepper's that saw me kind of rubbing myself at the table unconsiously. I saw him looking at me and figured out what I was doing that made him look so stunned. I didnt know what to do so I just winked at him and smiled. When I left I put my telephone number on the table, but he never called. I think he might have if I hadnt creeped him out. I dont know what is so surprising to people about masterbation and food, it seems natural to me. Mostly when i feel like I need to do stuff to myself I excuse myself and go to the bathroom for a few minutes.

One thing I heard you can do, and I've been trying to do to myself is train your mind to think of foods differently.For example, if someone mentioned McDonalds you'd probably think; yum, tasty, good, easy (no effort on your part to prepare), etc.If you did the same test with Helms, I'm almost certain you'd get; Yuk, fat, greasy, unhealthy, disgusting, and probably a whole lot more indepth reasons as to why he wouldn't eat it.I'm not sure if it's a healthy thing to do, and I speak of mental health here, but everytime you consider eating something unhealthy, tell yourself that's exactly what it is! Do some reasearch, and look at what this food does to you. Perhaps work out how long you'll have to run for to burn off the fat you'll get from eating the said food. Train your mind to no longer look positively on unhealthy foods. The first thought that runs through your head when seeing these foods should be repulsion.Kind of a ramble on my part, maybe can someone who knows can expand on what I'm trying to get at. Good luck anyway.

I did indeed get your pm Helmsman but I've decided a new begginning deserves a new wife. Why would I want to stay with some one that loves a hunk of crap? I've written her a letter explaining the reasons why but I haven't the nerve to send it yet as masterbation is taking a greater part of my social life. I'm also waiting because we've been together for so long and I'm not sure if I'll feel this way in a month. I definitly feel fatter then usual as this forum is bringing up all types of concerns and problems in my mind while I try to sleep and even though i am so tired and it hurts to keep my eyes open, my mind keeps running on. Then i get to thinking about food and masturbation and wish my wife was here to blow me. I get up, turn on the computer and eat what's left of the chinese food, (2 lbs. of broccoli beef but I added mayonaise and various other fried dishes.) I'm ust so lost and confused right now. Do I miis my wife or do i hate her? I'm unsure...

Gump, im glad you and I met. I have the EXACT same problem, except im not married. Maybe we should talk or get together over a salad. Maybe if I had a partner to talk to I could eat better and not have to feel like ai have to give up my desire for sexual gratification. Next time you feel like that call me, ill PM you my phone number. are you bisexual?

Maturbation and eating. hmm..., better than mayo?

I threw the letter away instead of sending it but a couple of days later, I was lifting some five lb. weights while watching, The View, and the phone rang. I never get call so curious, I picked it up. It was my wife and I wanted to tell her all the esciting things I have been doing for the past four days. I wanted to tell her I've started walking around theblock and can now walk around twice before stopping for a break, working on my cardio, and even doing some dusting. I want to be this new man everyone always talks about becoming. But before Icould tell her all this great news, she tells me that it's time for us to see other people. I know what that means, she's met someone else. Well who am I supposed to meet? Whho am i suposed to have kids with. When I mentioned the kids she responded, "Oh we'll work out the details in court." she said with a small laugh. I let her run the conversation and didn't really reply until she hung up. I still sat there with the phone to my ear in a daze. I wanted to go back to lifting weights but I couldn't bear the pain with out some mayonase. I binged ate and masterbated the rest of the n ight away and in the next morning was disgusted as my shirt was covered in mayonase and 'mayonase'.

For a guy going through such a crisis, your sense of humor is still intact. Bully for you.

Hell I admire it, its good to try to keep your sense of humor intact, especially in the face of all those challenges. You never answered my above inquiry, what do you say?

Funny, I thought I replied to GumpFish. Are you related?Your problem is too complex for the amateurs. I suggest you seek counseling, the sooner the better.

Are you saying that instead of trying to find help through other people that have the same problem, just go see a doctor?And I'm not sure if I'm bi sexual.

I'm saying that "both" of you need professional help.We can't cure leukemia or raise the dead either.

Fuck you Steve A. Chubby's ben a help those sleepless nights on AIM and you sit there high and mighty. Probably skinny too no doubt. Well I'll tell you something, People like Chubby and I exist in the real world and we're out there. Everytime you laugh at some fatso and he doesn't turn around so you don't think he heard, we do. We take those taunts and jeers and eat them away. Why don't other people have some common decency? The same goes for the internet.

I don't know you.I've never met you.But as a member of society, your last reply is a little dissapointing steve.People blow themselves up everyday to try and take away the freedom we have that gumpfish and chub are enjoying to the fullest, and I commend them both for it.This place is obviously NOT for the close minded.In fact, if I may, how is the exploration into your sexualities going guys?

I'm not laughing at anyone, but I think it is funny how you registered a few minutes before putting up this bullshit post. Interesting. How effin' stupid do you think folks are? Are we having a good time?But let's make believe you're serious, and this thread is not a crock of shit. I suggested that there are some problems that are beyond the scope of this site to address, and that professional help is indicated. What part of that sentence do you have a problem with?

Saying that you need professional help isn't an insult, it's a truthful statement. Do you have any idea how often that gets said in the depression forums? The same applies here. He's suggesting the best possible route for you to take because likely your eating problem stems from a psychological problem that we are unable to provide adequate help with, hence the need for someone who really knows how to fix the problem and talk personally with you.Don't get so insulted just because he asked you to seek help. You obviously came here searching for it, and he's telling you to refer to a professional now that we see that your issue is beyond our ability to correct. I'm pretty sure he had your best interests in mind.

I had been lurking for a long time around here, my timeliness from joining to posting doesn't even make sense to argue.Am I barred from posting anything until I've been a member for a certain period of time?That being settled, Steve, have you ever heard the addage " it takes a village to raise a child?" Because that's the point I was trying to get across.Chubbys and GumpFish do not seem like anything more than a couple of curious experimentalists, possibly in college and definetly in their early 20s, both of whom suffer from weight problems.Tell me what part of that seems like they require professional help? They just need a supporting community to build on their foundation.This IS supposed to be one of those types of communities isn't it?You know Steve, you remind me of my High School Guidance counselor, recommending Community College to everyone, cuz everyone must wanna go..right?"professional help" at the same time, isn't always a catch all blanket either Steve.

You don't think either one of them could gain anything from seeing a counselor??? Have you READ GumpFish's posts? I am all for him seeing a counselor!!!! And it's nothing to be offended about. Sometimes you need people to talk to, and if GumpFish has no friends and no wife, he needs to talk to SOMEONE. A counselor is a wise and logical choice... He should just make sure he picks out one that works for him.