true - muslims tend to perfomr the circumcision as a rite of passage to adulthood so it is often done at 13 + or - a bit. Differs from one region to the other though.
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Circumcision should be outlawed
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Yes, I think when the circumcision is done is a cultural thing.@Benediction: According to the Islamic Invitation Centre's FAQ, the proper word is "Muslim", as Ineligible states. I have never seen the word spelled as "Moslom". However, my Iranian friend uses "Moslem".
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Its always beeen Muslim in the UK. I always took Moslem to just be one of those odd Americanisms, just like "mom" instead of mum.
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According to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, "mum" is a Britishism, a nursery word from the early 1800's. "Mom" is short for "momma" (although the American Heritage Dictionary says that it's short for "mama").My non-religious Muslim friend lived in Iran and the U.S. only, so that may be why he uses the word "Moslem". He is, by the way, circumcised; presumably it happened when he was an infant.
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From the Wikipedia article on circumcision:
The origin of the requirement of circumcision in Islam is a matter of religious and scholarly debate. It is mentioned in some parts of the Hadith, but not in the Qur'an. Fiqh scholars have different opinions about circumcision in Shariah, depending on which Hadith are accepted and how they are interpreted. According to some it is a recommended practice (Sunnah). According to others, it is obligatory. Moreover, there are some who interpret verses in the Qur'an to imply that the requirement of circumcision is based on the covenant with Abraham.
The timing of Muslim circumcision varies. Some Muslim communities perform circumcision on the eighth day of life, as with Jews; others, earlier or later. Turkish, Balkan, rural Egyptians and Central and South Asian Muslims typically circumcise boys between the ages of six and eleven --- though in the middle class it is more usually a matter of routine in infancy and largely unremarked upon --- and in traditional society the event may be viewed communally as a joyous occasion and celebrated with sweets and feasting. In Turkey this feast is called "Sünnet Düğünü" and considered a very important celebration in man's life as a passage to a man from childhood in Turkey. In contrast, Iranian Muslims are typically circumcised in the hospital at birth without much ado. Urban Egyptians, as with many industrialized countries such as the USA, perform the procedure at a hospital. Kamyar et al describe it as an 'obligatory custom', and note that it is not necessary for the circumciser to be a Muslim.
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First off hello to everyone and yay me on my first post! Well, as an issue, should circumcision be outlawed? God no, I was circumcised when I was 8 for medical reasons, and, without the operation, I wouldn't be able to enjoy the wonders of any kind of sexual relationship so, no, should definately not be outlawed, as for all of these arguments placed within, I think it boils down to personal choice, now, I'm not a father yet, but I will be one day, and, I remember how much pain I was in when I was 8 and was cut, and there is no pain on earth quite like having your penis stick to a bedsheet, believe me, and, that's one of the things that will happen ... now, as a genetic disorder, I definately want my son done, if indeed i have a son, as soon as I can, so that it saves him the memory when he gets older, as it's highly likely that he'll suffer from the same condition as me, and, I'd rather save the trouble in this case, as for religion... I say live and let live, if people want to do it as part of their religion, that's fine, if not, that's up to them, I know one of my friends practices a version of catholosism that states any voluntary mutilation means you won't get into heaven, but does that stop people getting tattoo's? Well, therein I think you have your answer... nobody will change their mind for what others say on this subject, because it's very personal to each of us as men, to women as mothers or lovers, each will have their opinion, and each religion supports something different, all we have are our base beliefs, and I believe that I'd rather save the pain later in life for my son, which means not waiting until he's 8, the same as I was, I was off school (bonus!) for about 3 months with this, I think, and it was a really bad time for me, as I think it would be for anyoneAnyway, if I annoy anyone, my apologies, that is not my intent here, merely to inform, and share my opinion, but, think about it... you never know where your thoughts will take you until you try --------------
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nobody will change their mind for what others say on this subjectI've changed my mind. A while back, if I had a son, I would probably have him circumcised without giving it much though. It's the customary thing to do in the U.S. Now that I've learned more about it, I certainly would not, unless there were a medical reason.If there were no genetic issue involved, which is the usual case, would you still automatically have your infant son circumcised?
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Welcome to A2A, MDDraco!
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First off, thanks ineligable, and, secondly to steveA:If there were no possible genetic reasons, then, no, I wouldn't, it's purely to save on the pain later in life... in this day and age, there really is no need for people to suffer unnecessarily, the problem could possibly be detected at birth, in which case, it'll be done, if I have a son, if not, then, I won't I don't have a religious view either way, or a health view, there are advantages and disadvantages to both, these need to be weighed up before a decision is taken either way, not really something to be taken lightly.Dan -----------------------------