Opinions on prostitutes & prostitution?

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Originally Posted By: HelmsmaNInstead of giving in, surrendering or otherwise succombing to a life of hell and lonliness, I overcame them.So did I; so good for you and good for me. I've never really shared my story on here either, well here's a little glimmer of it: unless you've been left in the position I was in (and saw many other young teenaged girls in) walking the streets at thirteen years of age with nothing but your body left to sell, you're really in no position to judge.

While I completely respect your past troubles, I am completely lost towards your argument. What part of legalising prostitution, in government regulated brothels, makes life worse for homeless teenagers on the streets? If anything, it would free up manpower and money to seek out and help them!

Red Light UK - Sky News Quote:Tiffany is a full-time psychology student. Money's tight, so to finance her studies she also works as a prostitute.She says most people in Britain haven't got a clue what life's really like in the sex industry."It's not all behind closed doors with red lights. We're pretty much every day average girls who wanna make a living," she said."None of us is on benefits, we're not spongeing off the state, what we do we do for the right reasons."And here is a good quote for Converse:Quote:"A lot of people sort of look down and think you're disgusting you're selling your body but they've got to look at the person and ask them why, why are they doing that? You should never judge people, never."

I have to agree with you on this. I think 'some' girls would prostitute themselves while going to school to better themselves. But I think alot of them would just be there for the fast easy money. I know a few strippers that have started stripping to work thier way through school, but then never finish and get caught up in the dancer lifestyle. I know many that did not do drugs, but ended up being hooked on crack. My ex girlfriend is now having major problems finding a 'real' job because she got into all kinds of legal problems and drug abuse due to her stripper lifestyle. And I am not saying stripping is bad or anything like that. I am just saying not all people have a good head on thier shoulders. Not all people can resist becoming an addict. And stripping/prostitution is not something you can do forever. Where will these girls be when thier looks have gone?

Personally, I think it is morally wrong. I would never do it. But some people have no other choice, they have kids and a family to feed.

Originally Posted By: HelmsmaNLike I said, there are always optionsUnfortunately, there most assuredly are not. Do you honestly believe that there are "always options" for every young teenager who finds themselves homeless on the streets?! If there were "always options" why do you think young people come to these places in their lives? Do you imagine it's because they want to? Do you imagine it is in pursuit of some element of enjoyment?!It's 11am here and I'm going to watch a film with my family now before bed. I've got a deadline tomorrow and it's my birthday the day after that, so it'll probably be Thursday or so before I get around to responding to you properly; but you can be sure that I will.

Quote:When you legalize something, it is in effect saying to all that "It's OK...there's nothing wrong with it."This is the crux of my disagreement. I don't think the point of laws is to indicate what public morality is. Laws specify what actions should be punished by the state, that's all.Adultery is legal where I live, and (as I understand) in most US states. That doesn't mean the legislature thinks it's OK and there's nothing wrong with it. It just means they don't think it's a good idea for it to be punished by the state.

Why do they think that? Perhaps becuase it's an unenforceable law.

Laws reflect the morality of a given culture, and when something is (or becomes) socially acceptable it becomes impossible to enforce laws against it. So when something is made legal it is no longer considered (by many) to be socially unacceptable...and they can always say "it's legal" as a defence against their own conscience.

there are TONS of prostitutes in New York. but most of the time you can't tell because most New York girls dress like prostitutes. yes New York girls... that was an insult. take it as advice and put some clothes on, dear.I feel like that was rude lol

Aren't laws against prostitution just as unenforceable? Or are you saying that adultery is now considered socially acceptable but prostitution is not?

If you're going to have any control over it (from a regulatory/protection standpoint) you're going to have to have brothels or something similar (as somebody already suggested). I'd say it'd be pretty easy to enforce laws against brothels...and the absence of them in most states where prostitution is illegal seems to verify this. The "street-walkers" (or something like them) are going to be there whether you make it legal or not, and laws in that case are at least somewhat enforceable (it can be kept to a minimum when it becomes a focus of the local police force).Now I'll ask you...would you want a brothel next door to your house? How about right next to the supermarket? Why or why not?

A brothel would never be right beside your house, they would never get permission to set up shop right next to residential areas, especially areas with families. The people would object, and it would be bad for their own business.At the moment, with brothels being illegal, make-shift brothels are being set up in people's homes. So you seem to be more likely to have one next to your house if it stays illegal and unregulated.Quote:I'd say it'd be pretty easy to enforce laws against brothels...and the absence of them in most states where prostitution is illegal seems to verify this.What exactly do you mean by this? That illegal streetwalkers are better than legal brothels?

What I'm saying is that "street-walkers" are going to be there whether you make prostitution legal or not. If brothels are what the issue is really about (and they are according to you), it's quite easy (comparitively) to enforce laws against them. So the "laws against prostitution are unenforceable" arguement bites the dust.

Generally I believe that "Laws against public will" cannot be enforced at any way, as it breaks the main principle of democracy. Prostitution may be a good example of this, because many people may not be truly against it as we believe. Most of the times, people think prostitution is unethical/wrong but they visit at the same time a brothel/prostitute. Personally, I think prostitution should not be labeled as "banned" from our society. It may be unethical to some religions, but it's not a crime. If the goverment would fully legalize it, everyone would benefit from it. After all, it's a job and it should be considered the same way by the goverment, too.Finally, prostitutes should have our respect. They work under extreme conditions most of the times and they satisfy the public. As you may know, prostitution is considered the first job in our history.

Yes, there will always be streetwalkers, but there would be significantly less of them if brothels are opened up as an available, safe place for prostitutes to work.

Originally Posted By: HelmsmaNQuote:They work under extreme conditions most of the times and they satisfy the publicAs do trash truck drivers, and sewer treatment plant workers. And their work is legal, so why aren't prostitutes?

I used to work next door to a brothel. It was quiet and caused no trouble - I'd rather have one of those next-door than a bar. And there'd be a close source of part-time work for my daughters.

I used to frequent a few brothels, I nevr caused much trouble, but I must say if Im paying that sort of money for some bum, I wnat better looking girls than I had seen in the line ups at the brothels Id been too.

And there'd be a close source of part-time work for my daughters. I couldn't tell with the smiley whether you are serious or not..

Ha!