I love her

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Ill give ya one more bit of advice that may well be the most important thing to remember.Dont prepare a speach. When yuo talk to her let it come out naturally, not rehearsed. Be yourself, once you start dont stop and dont get chickenshit, rememebr what the end of what you wanted to say was, and fucking say it.

Thanks, I'm talking to her on msn at the moment, and I'm pretty confident I'm going through with it tomorrow.

Star Wars fan?I was as a kid, its why I never watched anything after that fucking shit pile on film episode 1. I love the original 3. In empire strikes back that little green bastard muppet says " There is no try, do or do not" its pricless advice that can be applied to nearly all of real life, so do it, dont think about backing out, just do it.

FUCK... on her myspace, she has a pic of this guy... in her general section, the last guy she dated had his pic there. FUCK! FUCK FUCK...

Perhaps it's just old, and she hasn't yet updated it.

So what, fuck him. Ask her anyway. My step-sister kept a picture of every guy she ever even talked to in her purse (in the dark days before myspace and msn) but that meant nothing or ever stopped her from going out with anybody.Don't read to much into shit, just go ask her.

no, she put it up last night,.... wow im fucked up the ass! excuse the language, im a bit pissed. I went and saw her, she kept looking directly in my eyes, but when i first met up with her, at her school.... her ex bf was messing with her, and had her on the ground, and was on top of her, and she was laughing and shit, they were bitching in a happy mood about how much they dont like eachother, he said something to piss her off, so she took off, i walked by her, and she said hmm.... I need to go talk to him, so i said okay, she asked if i could hold her purse, so i did... and she went up to him, and within 2 minutes they were making out, she thought i didnt see her, but i did. they were like 50 feet away. and at first i was around the corner, so she assumed i might not be able to see them...??? so after 15 minutes, the both came back over, fought with words for a bit, then finally she said, lets go. I asked her if she wanted to get something to eat, she said yea, so i asked where. and she said jack in the box (since it was right by us) so i bought her shit, I dont really eat fast food much, but she told me to please say i didnt want anything. so i got something to eat also. Well, she kept looking into my eyes. but i kept looking away, thinking about that fuckstick brad who is on her profile... so anways, after i asked her if she wanted to go to 711, and get anything for later, and she said she was feeling fucked up already about me spending cash on her, but i said she is worth it, oh and by this time, our friend jules came, so i bought him something from 711 too. her and jules werent on speeking terms at the time, but he made an effort to be nice. so we got out of there, and were starting to walk to her house (its like 30 minutes away walking) so i asked her if she had plans this weekend, and she told me. and on saturday i was going to see if she wanted to catch a movie or something.... but she said friday shes helping little kids at the girls&boys club, and saturday, she was going to hang with brad... Fuck.... So i said, so whats brad like,? and she said hes just brad. So i just asked her if she was going to go out with him, and she said she liked him, and he liked her, so maybe.fuck! so then the walk to her house was really kind of sad, i got to her house, gave her a hug and was like... Well... fuck jules, i want her so bad, but she has me trapped. So jules and i walked towards his house, and chilled for 45 minutes, talking about what happened today... about her ex Shayn, and her fighting, and then kissing (he wasnt on speeking terms with her at the time, but he was at the school upstairs when it happened and saw it too.) so now i'm at home.. and thinking... fuck.... I'm out of ideas! sorry for the language, and bad misspelling I cant spell correctly right now, I'm too flustered..

It doesn't look like she has let her ex go, does it? I don't get a good vibe from this at all, I'm afraid. :frowning:

yep, i really think i dont care anymore... honestly.. well.. thats a big lie, but this brad guy is so lucky he lives way in boulder... whixh is 35 miles from where im at (vegas) I feel so fucking weird, her and her ex were fighting, but in a happy way... but they had hate... i feel so fucked up..

Any wise words of wisdom? I'm so out of ideas.

Honestly, you sound A LOT like me back in high school. Some of the veterans on this site may even be able to recall back when I was having the problems your dealing with now... geez, was 2003 that long ago?I have a lot of advice that I'd like to share with you... but would you really be listening to it? When people are so head over heels (or shoes for MOST men) for someone, they can hear you but they manage to not listen.Anyway, whether you choose to listen or not, in my experience there are several things that you can change that may really help you in the future. Whether or not it will help you in your current situation is really up in the air.When you're dealing with girls that are very attractive, remember that they're just a person too. The difference is girls like this have guys drooling over them all the time. Lavishing these girls with constant gifts and often complimenting them about their physical appearance usually won't phase them much.If your going to give her gifts or pay for her stuff, ask yourself... What has she done today to deserve it? From what I'm seeing, your relationship goes like this... You meet up with her, do stuff for her when she asks you to do it (even small stuff like holding her purse), you walk her to class, agree to eat at the place she wants to eat, and then pay for her stuff......... Really, what has she done for you that you should do all these things for her? Perhaps she feels bad about you paying for her stuff because deep down she knows she hasn't done anything to deserve it. When a person earns something, the prize is so much sweeter... don't you think?Use compliments sparingly. Let me ask you a question. Why are diamonds worth so much money? Because it's a lacking resource on this planet. If she is complimented by you all the time, how much is a compliment worth? If she is complimented seldom, how much is a compliment by you worht then? Also, when you do compliment, try to make it about her personality more than her physical looks. There's all kinds of tricks to what a good compliment is. Often, it's about timing. If I go to her house and she comes out wearing a nice dress, her hair is done, and she's got makeup on, it's very clear that she put a lot of effort into presenting herself. In this circumstance, I'm very comfortable saying, "wow, you're looking very beautiful tonight".Hmmmm.... much to say with little time to say it.... Let's talk about Brad for a second here.Let me ask you a question you've probably asked yourself a million times by now. Why does she like Brad? Now, you may already have all the answers on why she SHOULD NOT like Brad, but let's concentrate on the why she SHOULD like Brad.They sound like they really do have fun, even in regular conversation. He's teasing her, she's teasing him, they're both smiling... Let's freeze and target what's happening in her brain right now. Laughter and happiness releases all kinds of chemicals into the bloodstream via the brain. It seems she's associating all these goody goody feelings to Brad. Zoom out back to the situation. Brad says something to piss her off a little and she retreats. Brain is thinking, "what the hell happened just now, I was happy and now I'm not, I'm just confused right now." What does she do? She goes back to him to figure things out. Who initiated the kiss would be an interesting thing to know.Let's look at dominance real quick here. Would you say that Brad is the dominant person between the two of them? Him being on top of her is an easy way of evaluating this. Now, ask yourself this. Who is the dominant person between you and her? Aren't you being the submissive one in the relationship?Now, I made a lot of assumptions here based on the information I was provided... I may be wrong about a lot of things, and I may be right about a lot of things too. I just want to get you thinking. Most of all, DON'T BE AFRAID TO BE YOURSELF around her! This is a hard concept for most young adults.

very close assumptions I'd say, only thing is brad is a guy she knows i guess, and her ex is shayn, not brad, but i guess your right.

Right... Wrong... Really, it all depends on the people you're dealing with. You're not in a hopeless situation. Maybe she's really wanting you to make a move. Maybe she just likes you as a friend and nothing more. There are ways to find out for sure, but you'll have to be the one to take the first step.

I was going to ask, until the night before i was going to she put a pic of that brad guy up. Now idk anymore... Fuck Brad... Fuck Drama... It's rare for me to catch someone I care for so much, but now that this fucker Brad is in this shit.... It ruined everything! FUCK.... Now I'm going to always wonder what if? or I can wait until she realizes he's only after sex with her.

Then she will probably fuck him, and then cry about it to me or jules... more drama... then I get caught up in her sadness! FUCK! idk anymore! Well I do, but I wish I could view her as just a friend, but I want so much more! god... I just feel like crying, but I cant.

ding "Bellboy, will someone fetch the bellboy to carry my baggage, please?"Women who do this are emotional tyrants and abusers; I wish them nothing but to be in a relationship they truly deserve.This is what some of them do; they get one guy with lots of money, or a great body and fuck the shit out of them; but they keep a guy on reserve 'as a friend' for the emotional or intellectual support that the current meat-head she's dating can't fulfill.She knows you like her more than friends, but she doesn't want just one guy; you're just an accessory to her as much as the Brad fellow is. He might be her physical fuck-buddy, but you're her emotional fuck-buddy; used and abused!You don't have to break it off with her; but you should come to realization that there is little to no chance of anything happening here. Either consider letting your heart move on, or strike now and ask her out. The pros and cons of the latter have already been explained...This just all sounds so familiar to my high school days; yes I'm bitter.

emotional fuck-buddyAlso known as a "cuddle bitch".

Thank you, in the bitter fog of my mind I forgot that rather accurate term.

its fucking done, she hates me and its all because her fucking ex bf shayn had to tell her lies, now she thinks im a stalker, and a perv. Fucking A... She left me 5 voicemails that were like 5 minutes long each, and I could only listen to like 5-10 seconds of each before i felt like throwing up. I cant believe this!!!

Good to see people listen to their Ex's rather than their friends...sarcasticWhat was the context of what she accused you of?In the end, this is probably for the best; I think you knew it wasn't going to go anywhere, and now you're no one's cuddle bitch.