HIV Vaccine ready for Clinical Trial

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The wide variety of classes isn't there just because they have certain standards to keep, most of them are there to give students options for their future. You may find music class to a complete waste of time, or think that some of what you learn in Maths is completely useless shite. But a number of your fellow students may find them interesting and what they learn will come to be beneficial in their future careers. We'd have a lot less scientists today if people weren't introduced to it when they were in school.As for the downfall of the American education system, it would be stupid to blame it on religion. Lowering standards and other factors are a big part of it. Where religion becomes a problem is when it tries to involve itself. If you want to learn about Creationism, go to a nice private Christian school, they're there to teach you all the stuff you wanna hear!

Quote: You may find music class to a complete waste of time, or think that some of what you learn in Maths is completely useless shite. But a number of your fellow students may find them interesting and what they learn will come to be beneficial in their future careers. We'd have a lot less scientists today if people weren't introduced to it when they were in school.I have been told this before. Personally I like music and acting. Never consider them career paths. However, I was never allowed by the parental units to take those classes.As to math I have nothing against being introduced to it. My problem is as great as the medieval man is. The idea was to be a JACK of all trades. Now it seems people are expected to be Master of all trades =/ this isn't runescape. You can't have 99/99 in all skills in real life.  Quote: As for the downfall of the American education system, it would be stupid to blame it on religion. Lowering standards and other factors are a big part of it. Where religion becomes a problem is when it tries to involve itself. If you want to learn about Creationism, go to a nice private Christian school, they're there to teach you all the stuff you wanna hear! I agree. I hate lowering my standars myself. However, I also have a conflict of interest. See my jack of trades vs master of trades arguement. Then again I find behavioral issues almost as bad as academic ones.I dunno how things work else where but, private schools are expensive in the states. I hear they are some of the best out there but, point remains very costly. *edit. Oh yes. I have to agree with my chemistry teacher... magnet schools are definitely a part of the problem.

It's much better to be a master of one trade than a jack of all trades and master of none. It's not really possible to be a master of all, or even of many.US schools tend to have a broader curriculum with less specialisation than schools elsewhere, though how much breadth versus how much depth there should be is a question that has no definite answer.

See, here's the difference: the things that the educational system teaches have facts to back them up, religion doesn't.

Originally Posted By: bobaliciousIf you want to learn about Creationism, go to a nice private Christian school, I think that statement shows a bit of narrow-mindedness.Public schools are teaching Islam, Greek and Roman Mythology, all sorts of theoretical stuff...things that a lot of people don't hold to. If you want kids to be widely educated and have open minds...as you say you do...why shouldn't they be exposed to this thing called Creationism that they hear so much about in the news?Basically what you're doing is harping on one group of people who you accuse of being ignorant of diverse points of view, while working to keep a large group of people ignorant of views outside their own.Ya damned hypocrite!

Originally Posted By: CiderSee, here's the difference: the things that the educational system teaches have facts to back them up, religion doesn't. That is not true on either regard.

Or I just didn't make my point clear. What it should really say is:If you want to learn about Creationism as being a scientifically valid theory, go to a nice private Christian school...

Thank you.

I having no problem with the teaching of Creationism in schools. Sure, it'll help future scientists find out the truth if we teach them some of the wrong ones now.

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fart...

pffttt...

Silent But Deadly?

Mmmm...actually that wasn't a fart.
It was that tongue through the lips noise that Bill the Cat does.

i have no idea who that is

a raspberry.

Originally Posted By: Danteki have no idea who that is Bill the Cat

So what ever happened to that vaccine...

DUUUH the Christians covered it up, havent you learned anything by now?!but actually i was wondering about that too

Well they said that it was ready for clinical trial. Organising one (and finding funding) could takes months; the trial itself could take years. You can't vaccinate a group of people and then deliberately expose them to HIV, as you might with a vaccine against the common cold. You have to vaccinate very large numbers of people and then compare the rate of AIDS cases in the vaccinated group with the rate outside the group. They will probably want to do the trial somewhere where the proportion of people who get AIDS is high.