College and parents

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Did any one ever have parents that wanted u to do something u didn’t want too? My dad isn’t too happy that I’m majoring in art, or like he says it “art stuff”. He wants me to get into business and I can’t do it. He don’t get it that I’m not that smart! So yester day were in the barn and he starts asking me about school like when it starts and if I’m taking more of those art classes. Yea.. I said something stupid.. I was like those art classes. And me and him got into it. He started on me about how art isn’t going to make a life and bla ..bla.. bla.. And I need to take business classes too. He don’t get it that it a waste.. I’d never be able to pass. I dk… I can only think of two ways to get him off my back. Quite school and go to work or take a business class and fail it……..show him I’m stupid. Either way he’s going to chew me out. I dk. I wish he'd leave me the hell alone about this. i dk.. wut if he's right tho and i can't make a living with art. i don’t want to go back into modeling. i hate it! if worse comes to worse i can break/train horses but hell i have to have a facility do that! i can’t live with my parents forever....urggg!!! takes money to buy a place urgggg!!! it's hte only things i know i can do. and it don't take a smart person to do them. grrrrr. y can't i be more like wutever happens happends like my brother! urggg!!

I understand your dad. He wants to make sure you will be able to support yourslef with a good job when yo uare out on your own. He's only doing this becasue he cares about you.Myabe you should do more research into the art field. You obviously have a lot of talent for art. You can do alot with graphics and art and I'm sure there are good jobs in the graphics field. You need to show him that you can do this or that with your art degree. You're dad now just thinks you will be a starving artist. Basically, do what will make you happy becasue in the you will be the one living with your decisions.

Your dad is probably worried about you and how you’ll support yourself in the future. You need to sit him down and (as calmly as possible) explain that there are many fields in art you can pursue. Why are you so down are yourself hon? You’re always saying you’re not ‘smart’ and other rubbish like that, but I’ve seen your work, and it takes someone with a lot of talent and intelligence to do what you do.

I can relate to what you're going through. My dad is the same way but he's a bit more understanding.I'm a music major in college and my dad can understand my decision because he's a musician himself and music kinda runs in the family (he plays in a band in his spare time). However, he isn't 100% comfortable in me focusing in only music.He always wanted me to something in math. He LOVES math but I'm just not that smart. I'm simply not the intellectual type. I'm more stronger in the arts. My dad fears that if I spend all my years in music but nothing happens, what am I going to do for the rest of my life? So, I'll give you the same advice he gave me:Focus on a secondary goal. He told me to do something else so that way I have a back up. It may take longer, school wise, but at least you doing more in your life and have a better chance at succeeding. I myself am looking into doing art again. I started in drawing when I was younger but switched to music when I was in middle school.I understand where your and my dad are coming from. I also get scared when I think "What happens if I don't make it in music?". It freaks the hell out of me, but at least I know I can turn to other options that I'm interested in.I say continue in art (art kicks ass!) but see if there's something else you may be interested in. IF art doesn't work out for you, it doesn't mean that you still can't do art on the side. Do something that makes YOU happy because you're going to be doing it for the rest of your life.

Considering the disasters at management that some people with management degrees are, I get the impression that the standards in some business classes are not high. And I think you much under-rate your ability.However, I also know that it's harder to pass something if you have no interest in it.But some business classes could be useful to anyone - see what's available. Could you handle bookkeeping (basic accountancy)? If you ever have your own business you'll want to know a bit of that. There may be a class available about how business organisations work - that's useful for any employee.

bookkeeping (basic accountancy)? is that math? i'd rather get my teeth pulled than do math lol really tho I got threw math by the skin of my teeth i dk if i can pass a higher math. i know business don’t have to do with math .. and the concepts I’d be cool with learning but it’s the tests and exams i know i can’t remember all those big words and stuff. i've picked up on some stuff from my mom and dad and i don’t; have to know the terms and junk lol just wut to do. do i kind of make since. if he’d agree to well. get off my back ..then i;d take some classes i guess. like advertising ( i dk if there is such a thing tho) lisa said something bout advertising class so i assume they must have them. I don’t down myself .it’s true.

Having been an artist and musician since the age of 5, I know where you're coming from. I also wanted (and still want) to make a living at art. I took multimedia classes in the early 90's when computer art was all the rage. Getting a job as a computer artist was very hard, and I didn't like it once I did. I still get commissioned to paint murals, wall art and portraits, but I'm not a full time artist by any means. Music, same thing. I get hired by some great reggae bands here in SD and have gone on tour and all that, but it's just not stable enough for me to try to survive. I have a friend whom I taught the drums in H. School on the Woodshop desk. He took it to new levels and went to school to study music. He is now a sought out keyboard/ piano player, but that's ALL he does, and it isn't steady work. And guess what? He's REALLY good! BUT....He just had a baby, and I would never rely on an unstable income..ESPECIALLY if I'm about to have a kid (Which I never will). Just take this as advice, but always follow your heart when it comes to your dreams.

Is there something else than business. I dk like advertising? Or something and still be well not so.. I dk. Like a minor to go with art? I dk.. I think he’d be ok with me minor in business but I dk if I can do it. Is that right.. Major and minor? lol

Yes, that's right. My neighbor has a MAJOR in art, and she's a bartender because it pays better than any job utilizing her degree.

Yes, many colleges allow you to study advertising; and advertising firms do hire artists and graphic designers.

Interestingly enough, I had the opposite experience. I started my college career as a Music Major. My Dad confessed years leader to being actually disappointed when I switched my major to something more "practical". I guess what he was afraid of was wasted talent.The good thing is that when you get through school and get settled into a career that fits, your father very well may see how what you're doing is a much better fit between you and the world than if you had just done what was expected or what he wanted for you.

I'm about to start college as a history major. I will probably minor in communications. My mom asked me flat out "why history" I asked "why not?" she said "what can you do with that besides teach history". I remarked "wahts wrong with history teachers!?!" she responded "nothing besides the fact they don't make alot of money" and at that point I was ready to slap that bitch across the face for so many reasons.I flat out asked her "what do you do have a degree in and how much money do you make from it.?" knowing she got a degree in nothing and that all the money she has comes from my dads job/power of attourny over my fairly well off great grandparents. She remarked "oh I have plenty of money"I still get pissed off thinking about that. I picked history because I enjoy history and it is one of the couple subjects for 'pre law'.Growing up ANY job I thought I might be interested in later in life my parents shot down. "dentist!" .. then a lecture on why I shouldn't be a dentist. "cook" then a lecture about how hot it is in the kitchen and how I'll always smell like food and hate it.I am just as worried about the next guy my degree will amount to an underwater basket weaving degree. However, I think I'd rather fall chasing a dream then live in a lie.Anyway.. take some marketing classes. I highly recommend them. I actually took marketing 101 and 201 in highschool. In DECA we actually learned about color schemes and stuff. I didn't pay too much attention to it.. because, well. I'm slightly colorblind. However, I'm sure there are plenty of classes dealing with the artistic side of marketing.As to music. I have ALWAYS loved music and wanted to play an instrument or sing however, never really been allowed to because its not "normal". In college I will definitely take some music classes.I have decided to really just say "fuck it".. and decided to go on full speed towards law. I want to be a legal consultant/lawyer or something of that nature. I am good at reading comprehension and its all I really have faith in I don't have enough confidence to persue anything else. All I know is I have always understood what I am reading.. Whether it be Macbeth or Julius Caesar by shakespeare.. and I have had to explain every word of the play to my classmates.. I have a pretty good grasp of politics... So.. all I can really do.. is tell myself I can do it.there is always the "what if".. we simply must move on to an uncertain future with a certain amount of determination and strengh.What made you so low my friend?

Quote:As to music. I have ALWAYS loved music and wanted to play an instrument or sing however, never really been allowed to because its not "normal". In college I will definitely take some music classes. My brother’s friend asked him if we’d be interested into making a band. He plays drums and ry can play guitar and bass… so he would be bass and me guitar but when Ryan asked me I said no. I can’t deal with crowds (can’t sing either!) but I guess his idea dropped cuz they can’t find a guitar or bass player or lead singer. lolSomething I always think is wired is I can understand lit. and songs but when it comes to writing a correct sentence I suck! Lol sometimes (even some posts) I have to reread like 3 times b4 I get it. I’ve even had to ask Pete in a PM wut is he/she saying. (seriously I’m a idiot!) but wut people can’t get it’s really easy. it’s kinda like I can find the hidden meaning…. Kinda thing. Oh it drives my brother crazy when I point out mess ups in movies. Oh he hates that. Every time I watch that movie with out a paddle I’m like saying watch! Watch! He’s got a hat and he supposedly lost it and then after he did he has it back (or something like that… ) it’s been a while since I saw it but I do not know how anyone can miss it! it’s so clear.  Quote:take some marketing classes. I highly recommend them. I actually took marketing 101 and 201 in highschool. In DECA we actually learned about color schemes and stuff.I’ll do that. Color schemes aren’t too hard, well for me.  Quote: What made you so low my friend? i dk.. u know how when shit seems it's going good and then bam! nothing good lasts. My dad just picked a bad day to talked about this stuff.. I guess. I had a bad morning that morning and then well he started asking me about school and really I didn’t want to talk about it. Hell let me have my few more weeks of no stupid schooling lol and then his “that art stuff” comment just pissed me off.

Quote:Something I always think is wired is I can understand lit. and songs but when it comes to writing a correct sentence I suck! Lol sometimes (even some posts) I have to reread like 3 times b4 I get it. My mom once (while she was drunk) told me I was diagnosed "slightly dyslexic" and i "grew out of it". Having the intelligence I do (which is pretty limited) I know you don't "grow out of" dyslexia xD. So I think it may be part of the reason sometimes I sorta "trip out" when trying to express ideas on message boards or talk to people. I mean when it comes to giving presentations or writing I can do it pretty well. But, when it comes to casual posting online.. I phail horribly.In general conversation I notice myself transpose words pretty badly sometimes. Its wierd how I can communicate well brilliantly at some points.. and at others.. barely speak xD.Sorry to hear about your luck being bad. I have my own issues. What bothers me at the moment (as retarded as this sounds) is how everything bothers me. I am never really happy.. just content. And that usually doesn't last. If I do get happy about something.. i usually end up dissappointed. Its kinda funny because I get told "you need to stop setting yourself up for dissappointment" but, I also get told that "you gotta change your perspective the only thing from keeping you from beign happy is you".. hahaha.. So yeah.. it really doesn't take much to bring me down anymore xD. I think I'm getting worse to.. Now days it feels like anything that bugs me.. I ultimately dwell on.. and I can't stop.So.. yeah.. i've had a few bouts with my parents over college myself.

:open_mouth: but i never said anything about having dyslexia.... how u now?

i didn't know there was a slightly dyslexic. i knwo there is liek degrees of it and different types.

So you are dyslexic? xD

Your loved. Like it or not, easy or not. They care, and as a parent, I give my advice.Can you "argue" your point? Will they listen, if you have a valid argument?

yea. i go to like a tutoring thing at my college they have. it’s called dss..... or is it ssd??? i dk. but like they pay like really smart people to help take notes and stuff. there is like no way in hell i'd pass anything without them. lol some of the tutors are teachers and some are smart students... there is one girl (she's F*n hot!) but i can't use her...she scares me.

I didn't know you were dyslexic xD.(well I guess I had soemthing of an idea when you told me about your issues communicating ideas on the forum personal experience.) I just know that my mom has told me I was. (probably sugar coated it when she told me "slightly"). Its amazing how even drunk when attempting to make you feel better. They can insult you.. sugar coat it and then try to lift your spirits by saying you can just grow out of it.Anyway, I could be wrong however, I think dyslexia probably inhibits my posting/communicating on a regular basis. I could be wrong since I really don't know much about dyslexia but, I get the idea its why I tend to do things backwards time to time xD. Or some of my post make sense to me... but, no one else seems to comprehend them or its so easy to completely misinterpret everything I say.I am probably going to have to go to tutoring for math.. I suck in it. thank god my major doesn't require much.

i can't argue with my dad... he wins.i dk.. i cna see u know.. liek every one was saying have a back up plan. u knwo it's just how he says it.. "that art stuff" ... he wants to start on my art stuff i can show him some art stuff that wouldn't let him sleep for months! i mena the way he sounds it's like he wants me to drop my art period... not going to do that . it's the only thing i'm good at.i'll talk to him about advertising and marking with art and see how it goes... i'm just puttign it off cuz ......well i'm scared of him.