I have no idea. I hate licorice and I rarely eat yogurt.
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Gay Civil Unions Sanctioned in Medieval Europe
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However, watermelon-flavored ice cream is the best!
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I believe you hit it closest to what i am trying to say.There are those who look at it as "i like the same sex"and then there are those who look at it like "I'M GAY AND PROUND AND I'M GOING TO FORCE YOU TO LISTEN TO EXPLICIT DETAILS ABOUT MY SEX LIFE!"I quite frankly don't understand the concept of "gay love" much less ordinary "love" and I have yet to find any real justification for it.So I find it extremely annoying when people feel the need to label themselves and make a big deal out of it.Then again I am sorta biased because of a guy I once knew >.<And food for thought. Why are you asking me about gay lifestyle when its gays themselves that claim "its my lifestyle choice"If I were to run into any of you on the street I wouldn't know the difference between you and anyone else. I am fine with that. People here don't make a big deal about it and we all view eachother as people thats that.However, you have to understand thats not nessicerly how it always works in the real world =/. In the real world there are people who feel the need to announce to the world their gay do flips in gym and start cheer leading at random and create a "gay lifestyle" that they are proud of. Thats what I have an issue with.Its a multipronged issue and I find it strange you pick me to ask questions about.
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Originally Posted By: Nnyand then there are those who look at it like "I'M GAY AND PROUND AND I'M GOING TO FORCE YOU TO LISTEN TO EXPLICIT DETAILS ABOUT MY SEX LIFE!"Why are you asking me about gay lifestyle when its gays themselves that claim "its my lifestyle choice"Okay to the first lined quote... In my experience that is something that rarely happens. But even so I hear plenty about my straight friends sex lives in great detail. This is certainly not something that happens with homosexuals it happens in every walk of life especially in todays culture.To the seconed lined quote... When have you ever heard me say "it's my lifestyle choice" ?? Hell I cannot even think of once ever hearing any gay person say "it's my lifestyle choice". If anything you'll hear homosexuals state it's NOT a choice. The word "choice" is not something you hear homosexuals use when talking about their sexuality.
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"...PROUND AND I'M GOING TO FORCE YOU TO LISTEN TO EXPLICIT DETAILS ABOUT MY SEX LIFE!"I'm assuming this is what you mean when you say "gay lifestyle". So to that end, the above quote could be applied to any group in society. The View, is the first to pop to mind but it's not uncommon to hear a group of women, at lunch talking about the same things or a few guys at lunch talking about how one of 'em is going to bang the waitress if he gets the chance. The point is, it's a certain type of personality that engages in such explicit and attention seeking talk. It's not something that only applies to one sexual orientation.>>>"..."gay love" much less ordinary "love" and I have yet to find any real justification for it."Love doesn't need to justify itself to you or anyone else.>>>"So I find it extremely annoying when people feel the need to label themselves and make a big deal out of it."Yeah, I feel that way about Christians, but it's their right to do so.>>>"Why are you asking me about gay lifestyle when its gays themselves that claim "its my lifestyle choice"I'm asking you because you brought it up and you said you weren't necessarily okay with it. As far as the thought that gays claim it's their "lifestyle choice", your probably going to be damn hard pressed to find to many who would say that. Most people would never choose to be gay, when it would be so much easier to just be straight.>>>"I wouldn't know the difference between you and anyone else. I am fine with that. People here don't make a big deal about it and we all view eachother as people thats that."So what's the problem with viewing a flamboyant man or butch woman as a person. Why should knowledge of someone's sexual orientation change how someone else views them. They're still people and that's that.>>>"In the real world there are people who feel the need to announce to the world their gay do flips in gym and start cheer leading at random and create a "gay lifestyle" that they are proud of. Thats what I have an issue with."First of all most are simply being proud of being themselves, without having to apologize for it, not for creating a "gay lifestyle". The quoted account could equally be describing a bunch of Christians who feel the need to wear their faith on their sleeve, pray for everybody without request or invitation and, god help 'em, lay on hands.The point is their the same people from different walks of life both are loud, both stand out, and both may intrude in ways that make the rest of us uncomfortable. But, the other thing they have in common is that they don't represent their faith or orientation as a whole. It's a type of personality and it's wrong to equate that personality type with being representative of any group.>>>"I find it strange you pick me to ask questions about."As I said before, you where the one that said you weren't exactly okay with it and I wanted to know why so that hopefully a few preconceived notions could be dispelled along the way... on either side.
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Quote: To the seconed lined quote... When have you ever heard me say "it's my lifestyle choice" ?? Hell I cannot even think of once ever hearing any gay person say "it's my lifestyle choice". If anything you'll hear homosexuals state it's NOT a choice. The word "choice" is not something you hear homosexuals use when talking about their sexuality. I have stated numerous times this board isn't bad about it. =/. Quote: Yeah, I feel that way about Christians, but it's their right to do so.I feel the same way about em and I am one. Quote: I'm asking you because you brought it up and you said you weren't necessarily okay with it. As far as the thought that gays claim it's their "lifestyle choice", your probably going to be damn hard pressed to find to many who would say that. Most people would never choose to be gay, when it would be so much easier to just be straight.Maybe its a local thing then. =/. Quote: First of all most are simply being proud of being themselves, without having to apologize for it, not for creating a "gay lifestyle". The quoted account could equally be describing a bunch of Christians who feel the need to wear their faith on their sleeve, pray for everybody without request or invitation and, god help 'em, lay on hands.Such a group of christians would be hypocrites. Essentially they are going against their own teachings. Quote:As I said before, you where the one that said you weren't exactly okay with it and I wanted to know why so that hopefully a few preconceived notions could be dispelled along the way... on either side I can only give an account of my personal interactions. I have herd a number of people either homosexual or claiming to be homosexual say "this is my choice to do what i want" And its generally that target group that I am aiming at.As you said love doesn't have to explain itself to anyone. If you say "I love another man" or "I love another woman" then it is what it is. If you say "its my life style choice" thats when I tend to get annoyed =/. Maybe its a local thing as I said or maybe it was just the catch phrase used at my school I can't say.
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"If you say "its my life style choice" thats when I tend to get annoyed..."Why? What if, it was their choice, why do you care? Nobody's bending you over and dry-holin' ya, so why does it matter? Who cares what other people want to be as long as it isn't effecting you.>>>"I have stated numerous times this board isn't bad about it."It's not about this board it's about the society we live in.I'm still not clear about the "lifestyle" you have a problem with. You said you don't like people who label themselves and sing it from the rooftops but that's not a lifestyle, that's a personality trait. Now did you mean people who label themselves or do you mean something else by "lifestyle"?
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I am refering to the personality trait. Usually those parading about "lifestyle" hold to the personality trait of what I am talking about.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
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Sorry for ever having it cloudy. Translating thought to text is a rather wierd process for me. Sometimes I can hit the nail on the head from the first post. Other times I tend to get my words all confused and ideas backwards.
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Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfWhen have you ever heard me say "it's my lifestyle choice" ?? Hell I cannot even think of once ever hearing any gay person say "it's my lifestyle choice". If anything you'll hear homosexuals state it's NOT a choice. The word "choice" is not something you hear homosexuals use when talking about their sexuality. I think the truth actually lies somewhere in between your comment and Nny's original assertion.First of all, while sexual attraction may not be a choice, your lifestyle is. That's an important distinction.Secondly, I believe a distinction needs to be made between two groups of people. Just like there are heterosexual folks who put their sexuality on display and make their life, and their public persona, about that, there are more folks like me who think that's private and none of your damned business and only a part of who I am; there are also gay folks who put their sexuality on display and make it their life and their public persona, but there are more who keep it private and believe it is none of my damned business and only a part of who they are.For either of you to deny either of those groups exist would be very short-sighted.
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Very well said. I personally believe ANYONE's sex life is their own damn business and not mine unless I should choose to engage in sex with them. Then its time to get some test done.Straight people are just as guilty about parading sexuality as anyone else. It all gets annoying fast.
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I think anyone who was complaining about "Brokeback Mountain" (for reasons other than the fact that it was way slow) and not complaining about "The Real World" needs to learn a lesson in congruity and consistency.
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I'd love to take a blunt object to anyone who watches/participates in that show.Or any of the other bastard productions MTV makes.No one wanted to believe me in my marketing 101 class last year but, mtv equates to a bunch of bullshit reality tv these days.whatever happened to semi educational stuff like jeopardy.Reality tv sucks.
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I never stated that people might not live an alternative lifestyle, but being gay itself is not a "lifestyle of choice" is what I was getting at and trying to get Nny to clear up his response so I better understood where he was coming from.Being gay is certainly not a choice. I never woke up one morning and thought "Hmm I think I am going to chose to be gay this morning". That's just as absurd as saying straight people decided one morning to be straight; doesn't happen. There are certainly people who chose to live a certain lifestyle, but not because they are gay or straight. It’s what they feel comfortable portraying.