Like I said, I come from a small town, and when you’re in a small town you’re around small minded people all the time. ‘Sexist’ remarks and ‘sexual’ gestures are just a part of life, or at least that’s what most of the people try to beat into your head.
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Comedian's show stopped. He used the 'N' word
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That's true. I also believe that just because someone HAS the right doesn't MAKE it right.
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If you would like I could take a survey. However, I somehow doubt the majority of the people who actually complain about racism have had those things happen.
I am not saying there are no racist left by any means. Don't misunderstand me.
However, don't think for a second that I find it fair a black child can say in class "THE WHITE MAN CAN SUCK MY DICK AND I WILL PUT A CAP IN HIS ASS" and everyone just turns the other cheek. While if I were to say something along the lines of "thats fucken racist" then everyone is going to jump up my ass and talk about how I shouldn't be swearing in school.
ya know my mom was looking for help one day in a store. She actually went to go ask for help and black lady who had been standing there without ever asking. Who was in her 20's or so commented "its like we are at the back of the bus again". When she never asked for help.
You seem to think its a bad idea to judge based on the children? I have to disagree. If CHILDREN who don't even fully comprehend what racism is are running around crying "OMG ITS NOT FAIR BECAUSE I'M BLACK" Just to get their way. Then that means their parents are probably teaching them racist views from the get go.
Never had a teacher say anything? Please I have had more shit for brains teachers then I can count. One just hated me for no real reason. One just argued at her white kids and never EVER repremanded the black ones. (no racism eh?)
You wanna talk about "what ifs" Ok. "what if" my father wasn't an alchoholic fucker who never paid child support?
"what if" parents didn't abuse children?
"what if" children were never molested or senselessly beaten?\
I am not saying that Black people have never been descriminated against and that they aren't still discriminated against.
I am saying quit using that fucken race card just because things don't go your way.
My friend doesn't use these boards but, I don't think he would mind if I spoke on his behalf. As a black man he himself is tired of people using the race card. Hell Most of my black friends are SICK of hearing about the race card.
One girl I know talked about a racist teacher and we ALL got laughs out of it.
We Me a teacher, and several other students would sit there and crack jokes about this old racist teacher.
However, quite frankly. My friend DOES live in the ghetto. As in if he isn't there to sign for his packages as soon as they arive they get stolen. His cousin is a suspect in a crime ordeal.
He is just as tired as I am of hearing about how "black people don't have it fair"
And scoff all you want to about my comments on the kids I went to school with. However, I assure you so long as we hold the double standards we hold no progress will ever be made.
So long as children are taught that they should be treated special (white or black or blue) because of the color of their skin. We are going to continue to have racial issues.
I mentioned this before and I'll mention it again. There was a teacher on cspan who was openly talking about the "call to eleminate the white man"
Had that been a white teacher he would have lost his job.
I don't give a DAMN what color you are. When you teach hate to a captive audence you deserve to lose your job.
There is no denying the fact that its effects are longer lasting and emotions run deeper then just a generation or two.
However, so long as we say "its ok for you to blame all your problems on white people" We are ultimately just going to end up right back where we started.
And I hate to say it but, if people didn't yell "RACISM" every 5 minutes I might be a little more prone to listen. However, your going to be hard pressed to find me actually respecting ANYONE who's first comments are "its because i'm black" And so long as children are taught that they will parrot it for the rest of their lives. Even when its not true.
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you guys are saying the most RETARDED things I have ever heard. hullabaloo where's my switch?eicheewowwow can you guys please be quiet and just like... not talk. seriously though. just shush.
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I totally agree with you, Abi.Most of you guys are saying some of the most fucked up, ignorant things. It's really heart breaking for me to see how some on here have shallow views. But, why should I be surprised? I guess some people will never understand.I'm not going to say anything else about this topic. I'm just going to sit back and what how many more ignorant posts pop up.
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See, this is why I don't post serious stuff in topics like this. I have no personal experience with racism, but I am aware of it. I know how people of all colours and backgrounds can be attacked through racism. And I know the difference between "cracker" and "nigger".
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Originally Posted By: bobaliciousSee, this is why I don't post serious stuff in topics like this. I have no personal experience with racism, but I am aware of it. I know how people of all colours and backgrounds can be attacked through racism. And I know the difference between "cracker" and "nigger". unfortunately not every body does and they need to be SCHOOLED and learn now before they run into the wrong people. I just find it interesting people talk about "it" like they actually know. Funny. I'm done. adios.
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white people have no valid views on racisim?
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didn't say that. but some of the views displayed on here are just sad and make me wonder.
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well, you couls specifically adress the statement you have issue with instead of making a blanket stement. We all know how well blanket statements and racisim mix.
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Yeah, stop being so racist Abi!
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Originally Posted By: HelmsmaNPeople are way to quick to be "offended" these days. I was thinking it's the water, but retrospect, maybe it's something they teach in Sinday School. True dat.Except they don't teach it in Sunday School as much as they teach it in Public School.I hate the word "nigger" and don't think there's a need to use it. But it baffles me that it's the one word you're not allowed to say. I can say sht fck c*nt Kike Jew Mick all day long and nobody's gonna think anything. But if I say "nigger" (which I typically don't), I've somehow crossed a line.How bout we be consistent and just don't use any of them, including cracker and whitie.And I am as well baffled by the thinking that white folks can't comment on racism.And I'm often pissed off by the fact that if a white person questions the popular, "correct" views on racism, he's automatically labeled as ignorant, and subjected to condescending responses like "you can't possibly understand" or "you don't have the right to say that cause you just don't know". Where are the people who will actually listen to arguments and questions without being judgmental, defensive, and condescending? If we could find them, any possible resolution might come about a bit quicker.
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I live down south. I think Texas is considered the South.And to comment on the double standard with racism, nigger has the same meaning, I don't care who uses it. The same goes for the other negative names people use. It doesn't make it right. Just to set things straight, black people can be racist, even racist againgst other black people. Now people can go be hateful and know that they'll be equally repremanded.Don't hate me because of what your middle school teahcer did or the things ignorant kids said. They don't speak for me.
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Tangled. I by no means hate you because of what some ignorant fools have done or said.My comments are only to point out the inconsistency. I would never hold it against any innocent party. However, what about other kids?. You can say "oh they are just kids" all you want and that "we shouldn't judge based on the children" however, The children are going to grow up. If these are the values they are being taught then we have some major problems.I could never hold some idiot teacher or ignorant child's rantings about "making the white man his bitch" against my friends, or any one innocent for that matter. Just because my is black doesn't mean he is anything like the teacher, or the idiot students. However, it would be VERY easy to fall into racist tendencies if your exposed to enough people playing the race card senselessly day in and day out. that is my point.I am not saying its right, or even justified however, I am saying its a logical way to come to an illogical belief.
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first off. this post is directed to every one that reads it..... not just Nny, i just clicked reply to him cuz he was last.We can agree that racism is bad…right? Yea. We can agree that black people, Hispanic, Indian, Asians, Orientals, ext.. get called bad things and are sometimes victims of racism………..right? Yea BUT there is some that do Not believe that white people can be victims of racism… and that is Wut pisses me off . When a white person says they get racist things said to them as well and have witness or been involved in another race being racist against them we are told no.. u are stupid … it’s bullshit. That is wut pisses me off about all this crap.!. And then there is some that do Not believe that some races use the “racism card”.. well I have seen that happen too. So yea it does happen. (but I know only a selected number will agree while the other number of people will read it and say he has no idea wtf he’s talking about. And that’s ok…. Keep on living with ur eyes closed. )Yea there are ideas said that maybe can make shit better….and theses ideas aren’t agreed on. I don’t think it will ever change. I actually think racism will get worse before it gets better. It has! Look at the race of people that have been looked down on and said bad things about just because of sept 11. Facts are there are racist white people, there are racist black people , there are racist Hispanic people, there are racist name race here people. And where there is a racist race person there is more of that race that isn’t racist. And that’s wut I think. Warning this paragraph may piss some people off!.. it’s just something I see a lot of and don’t understand.Now about the topic, the word nigger..… I don’t know wut this thread is even about…. The word nigger? Or race (ye i know they both go hand in hand) Why is it that black people can call their own race nigger and it not be racist? I just always wondered that. I don’t care if u spell it nigga or nigger…… it’s still the same word just one in slang. Rappers use it….that race use it but don’t dare a another race say it. (now I know not every one uses that word ..so don’t; come posting saying caleb I’m black I never use that word.. I know I’m not talking about every one. But I see it a lot. I’m white and I never use the word (shit this is the most I have in this one post…) .. So yea I know not every one uses it. But I also know their are some that do. I actually see it a lot on campus. edit if I hurt any ones fillings by using the word or using the term their race. I’m sorry. How else am I to ask . I’m not good with wording things.. so I did it the best I could and hope no one takes offence.
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Quote: Warning this paragraph may piss some people off!.. it’s just something I see a lot of and don’t understand.Now about the topic, the word nigger..… I don’t know wut this thread is even about…. The word nigger? Or race (ye i know they both go hand in hand) Why is it that black people can call their own race nigger and it not be racist? I just always wondered that. I don’t care if u spell it nigga or nigger…… it’s still the same word just one in slang. Rappers use it….that race use it but don’t dare a another race say it. (now I know not every one uses that word ..so don’t; come posting saying caleb I’m black I never use that word.. I know I’m not talking about every one. But I see it a lot. I’m white and I never use the word (shit this is the most I have in this one post…) .. So yea I know not every one uses it. But I also know their are some that do. I actually see it a lot on campus. edit if I hurt any ones fillings by using the word or using the term their race. I’m sorry. How else am I to ask . I’m not good with wording things.. so I did it the best I could and hope no one takes offence.What you fail to realize is that blacks who use that word on each other or whoever are RETARDS. Why bother taking them seriously? You mentioned rappers... there should be a red light going off in your head. And yes, you did say the word too many times. Personally, I NEVER say it. I can't find myself to say it. I can't even write it. It's hurtful word and I don't like it when people use it. Yet people say the stupid word so casually like they're munching on some cheerios. And when blacks use it on each other I feel like slapping them senseless because they forget it's the same demeaning and derogatory word used on their ancestors when they were chased down, lynched, and burned. I don't care if you're black, white, hispanic, or purple. Don't say it, it's offensive. I find it offensive. People find it cliche? Oh well get over it and find another word to use. It's not that hard.
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Quote: What you fail to realize is that blacks who use that word on each other or whoever are RETARDS. HAHAHAHA. Its simple. Because even If I ignore it. Even if Caleb ignores it. Even if you ignore it. That doesn't change anything and it doesn't get rid of the problem. Sure we can ignore Kamau Kambon all we wan't. However, he isn't going away. And lets face it so long as he is out there teaching and someone can take up his legacy when he is gone.. They will.Ignore it all you want refuse to believe people don't take advantage of the race card all you want, and by all means feel free to believe that Kamau Kambon doesn't think I deserve to die just because I'm white all you want.Just don't be surprised when something horrific happens because of it.I just find it ironic a black man spoke out against Kamau and suddenly everyone is trying to pin the black man who spoke out against Kamau as racist. If you fail to realise there are some SERIOUSLY warped views out there in ALL Communites then well.. Woe to you my friend.
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I never once said it. Only typed it. lol I don’t judge people. And u are judging them saying their retards. Why bother taking them seriously? Why not? Quote: You mentioned rappers... there should be a red light going off in your headi mentioned it cuz i think it could be the place they get it form..or maybe a athlete? i dk... it's kinda the point to the question i don't know why they use the word. i don;t knwo why a rapper or athelte would either.....plus Unlike some… I don’t slam artists for their crafts. I don’t like rap I can’t name a one rap artist.... But he / she must be doing something right to have a record label. I don’t like country music either or pop but you will never see me slamming their music. Or slamming some one because of wut they chose to listen too. Well I do pick on my girlfriend about her choice in some pop music lol only cuz I secretly like it when she pops me in the chest and tells me to stop picking at her. "Yet people say the stupid word so casually like they're munching on some cheerios."Buy ur defection.. Those people must be retards too. …maybe it’s just like wut helms was saying… helms, ur saying that the guys and girls that use the word (I will now on call it the word for fear of Abi beating me up! Haha) is because they chose NOT to let it bother them. I can live with that... as I can live with them calling each other that. lol it’s really non of my business wut someone says to their friends. the same goes for witch with a b. (that too i don't understand.) I was just wondering......
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who is Kamau Kambon?
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woowww I don't like how this conversation is going and how you guys are referring to certain things so....PEACE.