(Preface to mods: sorry if this is in the wrong area of the forum. Feel free to move it, I wasn't sure where to put it. And if this is a tired subject, just delete it. I don't want to cause problems.)My female friend and I sort of have a disagreement the other day. Don't remember how, but we got onto the subject of girls raping guys and if it's possible, and we both sort of agreed that it is at least possible. I could see that it could happen (even though I can't imagine it happening to me), and probly has happened in the past. But one thing we disagreed on was whether or not she could get pregnant. And I know you'll come back with, "Anytime there is sex, there is a chance." I know. But my friend proposed a story that she heard awhile back (no idea if it was true): what if a woman wanted to get back at a man, so she planned on raping him, getting pregnant, and giving birth to the child in order to receive child support? I know it's an outlandish claim, but in theory, it could be an exploit of the current system. My only problem with it is that I don't really think it's possible, and she does. I could never put myself in the shoes of a victim, but let's be realistic: if you are a man in a similar situation to the one described above and know what she plans on doing, wouldn't you make sure that you don't ejaculate? Knowing our system, if by chance she got pregnant, nobody would believe him that he was raped. So there wouldn't be any other option than to hold it in until the woman loses determination and gives up.She claims it can easily happen since she heard the story, and I'm more skeptical because in that situation, as a man, I just don't think it would happen.What do you guys think?
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Possible that a girl rapes a guy and get pregnant?
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wouldn't you make sure that you don't ejaculate? How do you make sure you don't ejaculate if you are stimulated enough?
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Originally Posted By: sdp
_wouldn't you make sure that you don't ejaculate? _
How do you make sure you don't ejaculate if you are stimulated enough?
Sheer will given the circumstances?
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You are assuming everyone would be able to control themselves that easily. If they were able to control themselves, then they should be able to control themselves to not get an erection. You think it's easy?
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Originally Posted By: sdp
You are assuming everyone would be able to control themselves that easily. If they were able to control themselves, then they should be able to control themselves to not get an erection. You think it's easy?
Not at all.
This is my line of thinking: at least for *me* personally, if I don't have crazy good feelings for a girl, I physically can't become too involved with her. I've been in situations with girls at parties before and if there aren't any feelings for her, I can't even force myself to do it anyways. Donno why. Friends used to make fun of me :P
Now, back to the situation at hand: given what I said above, it's likely that he would hate the woman doing this (even if he knew her or not). Plus, if you knew her intentions, that'd even add to your list of reasons to not let certain things happen.
So when you compare the last two paragraphs, maybe that's why it's hard for me to see where you're coming from, because I can't imagine this happening from my point of view.
Add to this the fact that there really aren't any cases or research to prove whether this could happen or not, and that's why I'm so skeptical and keep disagreeing with my friend.
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that'd even add to your list of reasons to not let certain things happen. Your list can be as long as it wants to be. What you want to happen and what actually happens are two different things.I'm pretty sure it could even happen to you, even if you can't see it happening. It's possible.
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Quote: Don't remember how, but we got onto the subject of girls raping guys and if it's possible, and we both sort of agreed that it is at least possible. I could see that it could happen (even though I can't imagine it happening to me), and probly has happened in the past. Of course it's possible for a guy to be raped by a woman. There's no "sort of". And honey, rape can happen to anyone, anywhere, at anytime. God forbid anything happens to you, but don't be that naïve. Quote:But one thing we disagreed on was whether or not she could get pregnant. And I know you'll come back with, "Anytime there is sex, there is a chance." I know. But my friend proposed a story that she heard awhile back (no idea if it was true): what if a woman wanted to get back at a man, so she planned on raping him, getting pregnant, and giving birth to the child in order to receive child support? I know it's an outlandish claim, but in theory, it could be an exploit of the current system.This is what I don't understand. Of course, any idiot knows if there's sex, there's a chance a baby is made. But how does making up a story of a woman brewing up a plan of revenge change that? Sex is sex is baby making. Whether it's consensual or rape, there's always a chance.That story your friend told IS possible but I have no personal experience or seen that anywhere else to know if that has become true or not. But I wouldn't be suprised if it has happened. Quote:My only problem with it is that I don't really think it's possible, and she does. I could never put myself in the shoes of a victim, but let's be realistic: if you are a man in a similar situation to the one described above and know what she plans on doing, wouldn't you make sure that you don't ejaculate?.Again, don't be naïve. First of all, how would you know what a woman was thinking? You have to understand not ALL women are going to want to sleep with you so she can have a baby and you give up half your money.Understand also rape can happen in a split second. There's no predicting it whatsoever. So, how can one know what they are getting theirselves into?Sorry, but your last sentence of ejaculation is just silly. Quote:Knowing our system, if by chance she got pregnant, nobody would believe him that he was raped. So there wouldn't be any other option than to hold it in until the woman loses determination and gives up.No offense and I know I'm going to piss people off, but, you're a virgin, aren't you? Quote:Now, back to the situation at hand: given what I said above, it's likely that he would hate the woman doing this (even if he knew her or not).Huh? Quote:Add to this the fact that there really aren't any cases or research to prove whether this could happen or not, and that's why I'm so skeptical and keep disagreeing with my friend. You need to rethink that and put yourself in a rape victim's shoes. Rape is a horrific experience and a reason why a lot of cases don't get to court or are even unheard of, is because the victim is too terrified and ashamed of what happened. So, just because YOU haven't heard anything like this doesn't mean it doesn't happened.
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Originally Posted By: Virtual_Star Quote: Don't remember how, but we got onto the subject of girls raping guys and if it's possible, and we both sort of agreed that it is at least possible. I could see that it could happen (even though I can't imagine it happening to me), and probly has happened in the past. Of course it's possible for a guy to be raped by a woman. There's no "sort of". And honey, rape can happen to anyone, anywhere, at anytime. God forbid anything happens to you, but don't be that naïve. Quote:But one thing we disagreed on was whether or not she could get pregnant. And I know you'll come back with, "Anytime there is sex, there is a chance." I know. But my friend proposed a story that she heard awhile back (no idea if it was true): what if a woman wanted to get back at a man, so she planned on raping him, getting pregnant, and giving birth to the child in order to receive child support? I know it's an outlandish claim, but in theory, it could be an exploit of the current system.This is what I don't understand. Of course, any idiot know if there's sex, there's a chance a baby is made. But how does making up a story of a woman brewing up a plan of revenge change that? Sex is sex is baby making. Whether it's consensual or rape, there's always a chance.That story your friend told IS possible but I have no personal experience or seen that anywhere else to know if that has become true or not. Quote:My only problem with it is that I don't really think it's possible, and she does. I could never put myself in the shoes of a victim, but let's be realistic: if you are a man in a similar situation to the one described above and know what she plans on doing, wouldn't you make sure that you don't ejaculate?.Again, don't be naïve. First of all, how would you know what a woman was thinking? You have to understand not ALL women are going to want to sleep with you so she can have a baby and you give up half your money.Understand also rape can happen in a split second. There's no predicting it whatsoever. So, how can one know what they are getting theirselves into?Sorry, but your last sentence of ejaculation is just silly. Quote:Knowing our system, if by chance she got pregnant, nobody would believe him that he was raped. So there wouldn't be any other option than to hold it in until the woman loses determination and gives up.No offense and I know I'm going to piss people off, but, you're a virgin, aren't you? Quote:Now, back to the situation at hand: given what I said above, it's likely that he would hate the woman doing this (even if he knew her or not).Huh? Quote:Add to this the fact that there really aren't any cases or research to prove whether this could happen or not, and that's why I'm so skeptical and keep disagreeing with my friend. You need to rethink that and put yourself in a rape victim's shoes. Rape is a horrific experience and a reason why a lot of cases don't get to court or are even unheard of, is because the victim is too terrified and ashamed of what happened. So, just because YOU haven't heard anything like this doesn't mean it doesn't happened. No, I'm not a virgin.Don't get defensive, I'm not trying to piss anyone off here. Just wanted to have a discussion. Your points are taken.
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I'm not trying to get defensive, but I have a nasty habit of saying things that tend to irk people. But the reason why I said that is because anyone who's had sex would understand that's it's a LOT harder to have enough will power to stop ejaculation to prevent pregnancy than how you put it.
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Quote: it's possible, and we both sort of agreed that it is at least possible. Yes it’s possible and yes she can get pregnant if nothing is used. Quote:My only problem with it is that I don't really think it's possible, and she does She is correct. Quote:let's be realistic: if you are a man in a similar situation to the one described above and know what she plans on doing, wouldn't you make sure that you don't ejaculate? No let me get realistic for you....When a woman rapes a man he IS NOT in control. So if she does NOT use a condom or on the pill or any other form of protection then YES she can ……and probably will get pregnant. Now about the ejaculation……. Rape is NOT anything like sex….nothing wut so ever. ..and it’s very hard to explain. it’s like about the only way I can explain it to some one that has no clue is to say it like this your body and your mind are not agreeing with each other. Quote:nobody would believe him that he was raped. Sadly unless there is proof …… chances are he want be believed. Quote:What do you guys think? Bitches can do anything. Quote:if I don't have crazy good feelings for a girl, I physically can't become too involved with her. I've been in situations with girls at parties before and if there aren't any feelings for her, I can't even force myself to do it anyways. If some bitch is thinking of a plan to rape and get pregnant …I bet she has a back up plane incase he can’t get it up. .. it’s called pills/drugs. Quote:list of reasons to not let certain things happen No one lets a rape happen. Quote:So when you compare the last two paragraphs, maybe that's why it's hard for me to see where you're coming from, because I can't imagine this happening from my point of view.Add to this the fact that there really aren't any cases or research to prove whether this could happen or not, and that's why I'm so skeptical and keep disagreeing with my friend. I’m not sure if your talking about the said “plan” or that a woman can rape a man….. Quote: Knowing our system you don't know much about yours do you....really? sad thing is.. most guys don't get it until after it's happen. hopefully never will.humm about as close as i can to try to explain is say like your getting a physical and the doctor is touching you. you get a erection cuz your being touched..... but you really wish that erection would go away or not happen cuz you don’t want to have your doctor see. it's kind of the best i can do to explain.
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Er, when I said, "Knowing our system", I meant the society we currently live in. I meant that, in general, nobody would believed he was "raped" and would therefore be forced to pay child support most likely.
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It would be difficult, very difficult. For me at least, if I were in a situation like that where I was being raped, the fear and stress would be so much that I probably couldn't get it up. Although there are other ways around this.
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wooooops... sorry my oops
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the fear and stress would be so much that I probably couldn't get it up. the thing is alot of people think that way. it's not how it works tho. and cuz of this way that people think it makes it even harder to believed and even harder for the dude.
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It would be damn near impossible to resist the urge; Most people who are raped are sedated in some sort of way, either by alcahol or by an intentional additive which makes them unable to 'move' themselfs away from a bad situation.
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If the girl puts Viagra in a guy's drink or food or whatever, wouldn't that be good enough to give him an erection?
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It doesn't necessarily need anything.
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why is every one replying to me????? leave me the fuck alone
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"Most people who are raped are sedated in some sort of way..."Do you have any studies to back that up? I can not imagine that is anywhere near the case for many victims of rape. Some maybe. Most, I would bet, are just raped.@ whoever said it,Viagra is not needed to rape a man.An erection and ejaculation are physiological reaction to a stimulus. In other words the mind doesn't have to be willing for an erection or even ejaculation.Think about it. If it were something guys could completely control you wouldn't have a thousand and one boys posting on here asking how to control random erections when they don't want them.The involvement of the mind is not required for a dick to get hard.
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Quote:An erection and ejaculation are physiological reaction to a stimulus. In other words the mind doesn't have to be willing for an erection or even ejaculation. Think about it. If it were something guys could completely control you wouldn't have a thousand and one boys posting on here asking how to control random erections when they don't want them. The involvement of the mind is not required for a dick to get hard. I think u said it better than I did. “the only way I can explain it to some one that has no clue is to say it like this your body and your mind are not agreeing with each other.” yea you said it way better.