Schizophrenia..

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I am wondering if a male 25 years old who at first seems normal then slowly seems to "crack up" doing erratic things such as holding a gun to his wife/sons head would fit the bill of schizophrenic.Suffering from severe alcholism.. usually when he gets drunk thats when he really begins to behave erratically however, thats not the only point in time he behaves erratically. Sorry I can't really give many details.. however, thats about the best I can nail it right now..Its my understanding he was at one point normal and seemed mature enough and then began to just degrade and deteriate..

i dunno what schizophrenic means but alcholism can make u do some strange things . If i knew what schizophrenic means i could "try" and help.

Schizophrenia does very often first appear in late teens or early twenties. If someone around that age starts feeling they have special powers (for example, feeling what other people are thinking, or creating luck), or starts getting suspicious of people and feeling they are out to get them, or starts doing irrational things, that often does indicate schizophrenia developing.

Well then thers a good chance, if u r able 2 say did his family do something that might have contributed too this? Pairing this up with alcholism...well..im not surpised.

I don't know about him believing he had any "powers" keep in mind this happened well over 10 years ago.. so its hard to go back and say "AHA CLEAR EVIDENCE".

However, I don't think it hurts to sit down and try to map it out as at least a possibility.

Then again he may have believed he had powers.. I herd him make the comment "if you call the cops i'll kill them" He apparently felt he was above reprocussions.

Although I don't know if anyone else he was related to had schizophrenia (if they did they weren't violent with it)

Apparently his mother had soemthing wrong with her but, I don't have any evidence of it.. there was never a trip to the doctor or diagnosis.

She had 6 kids he was one. Of the 6 there were 4 born with disorders either mental or physical.. the details are yet again hazy.

He has 2 known sons one of which was born with excessive fluid in his head which had to be drained at birth threw a shunt.

He has a nephew who was extremely retarded and extremely mean.. to the point he had to be institutionalized.

Again sorry for a lack of detail. I am not in a place to recount details for several reasons.. part of which is I wasn't there. Another part is as I may have said earlier.. these events occured well over 10 years ago.

I really don't know if he felt he had powers.. however, He may have been suspicous I remember hearing it said that when he barrowed a lighter from one of their freinds he told his wife "you owe him a blow job"... so there is definitely something not right on some level I feel its safe to say.

While I don't think it can be confirmed this far into the future.. with this little evidence. I do think someone can probably at least say "yeah there is a strong chance" or.. "no maybe it was so and so"

So keep in mind I'm not trying to get a definite answer.. but, I would like to at least confirm if there is a definite possibility or not.

I don't think it's possible to tell with so little evidence. There isn't really anything that definitely points to schizophrenia. It may just be a personality disorder.

Hm. Well then I guess there is not much which can really be done or said. If I think of anything else I will mention it.I might just be jumping to conclusions.However I feel the need to comment on "just a personality disorder"I might be a little over agressive on these issues but, if someone has behavior which is erratic enough to hold a gun to his wife and sons head don't you think "just" is a bit of an understatement?Anyway I don't want to jump to conclusions here.. but, if there is anything you can think of else that might push it more in the direction of schizophrenia rather then it being just a personality disorder I'd really appreciate it.

I am justly chided - the word "just" wasn't right. Personality disorders can be very serious indeed, and have very serious consequences.

Don't think too much of it. I am not one to nit pick about wording but, every so often things just sorta irk me.I guess a bigger question is assuming it is a personality disorder do you think it may have some underlying casue which is possibly genetic?Or do you think it may be strictly on him?I remember his wife mentioning that with his first son he signed away all rights because he refused to pay child support.For some reason that didn't click in her head something might be wierd with the guy.. So she still got married and had a kid with him.Its my understanding there was some deteriation of it his personality.I can't make you an excate timeline however, its my general understanding it happened if not in this order.. fairly similarHe breaks up with his girlfriend or divorces first wife. Me meets his future wife/new girlfriend.He ask his new girlfriend what should he do about his son and she says its entirely up to him not wanting to be responsible for it.he signs away his kid.They marry.they have a kid.He at some point becomes a heavy drinker.On several occassions he held a gun to her head. Making various threats. "Oh I'll shoot the police if you call em" or I think I may recall him threatening once "if you leave me i'll shoot you". (no garuentee on the last one)Apparently her grandfather (who owned the house they lived in) had to come and kick him out at one point in which he began acting like a 3 year old.I hear he also would have no hesitations about messing with her cat.. it had a fear of him although she isn't quite sure what he did to the cat.Apparently he would kick the seat while she was driving too..Sorry this is all so scattered its me trying to recollect many different conversations and various stories about the guy.

He's obviously a person to steer clear of. As far as a proper diagnosis goes, I think that would need a proper professional examanination.These disorders seem often to be partly genetic and partly not.

ugh.

Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.

However, at this point I doubt (if the guy is even still alive) that I could find him much less actually convience him to get a diagnosis.

Such a messy situation.

Plus now that I think about it with all the different mental issues out there.. we would need a professional to say whether its genetic.. ... Can't say its good no matter how i look at it.