Marijuana

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Originally Posted By: Afterhours

It's illegal for a reason.

The first anti-Marijuana law in America was originally created by a bunch of lovely white Christians in El Paso, Texas, who needed a way to control the Mexicans that were pouring over the border. The law spread over all of America through prohibitionist propaganda campaigns and was accepted quite easily because most of America had never heard of the stuff before!

Harry J. Anslinger, then Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, was a strong prohibitionist who believed that if you made the laws harsh enough and put enough people in jail then you could get rid of things such as marijuana and alcohol. They released statements claiming that Marijuana made people go crazy and turned them into anti-social, murderous fiends!

In 1944 New York's Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia, an active anti-prohibitionist, commissioned a scientific investigation into the effects of Marijuana and found that all of the government's claims were complete and utter bullshit (not exactly the words used in the report). Anslinger had the report discredited and destroyed every copy of the report that he could get his hands on. When the rise of heroin addiction hit in the early 50s, he created a new bit of spin, the infamous "Gateway Drug" shite. He started going around telling people that marijuana directly leads to Heroine and other harder drugs. Then he started latching onto people's Cold War fears, saying that the communists supported Marijuana and so if anyone else does, they are a communist!

Later reports have officially destroyed nearly all of the Government's claims but so many people are unaware of this so the laws remain. Marijuana's biggest problem is that it is illegal.

I watched all that on the History Channel once

I buy in bulk so I dont have to make frequent trips and I go in on a 5lb can witha few friends.if i buy it in january it doenst mean Ill needit in 12 months, it may be 15 or 16 months before I need it again. I got this stash in april and I had 5 oz, I got about half left. between 5 of us my share was 300 dollars, but I wanted less than other people. its about $500 a lbs, or atleast it was in april.I dont smoke daily, sometimes its months between smoking I only smoke heavy during summer weekends and vacations and christmas break through new years. outside of that its maybe once a weekend every other weekend or on my birthday or after a hsitty day and depending on what plans and responsabilities I have it could be 2 months or 3 from the time I smoke to the next time i do.Im all for its legalization, it is MOSTLY harmless, and if I smoke some I can drive a car in 2 hours tops ( I dont car what anyone syas your too fucked up to drive safely when your high and I dont shit myself about that) where as I have too many drinks Im not good to drive till the next afternoon. I cna goto afriends blaze a fatty, and drive home later on that night completely sober and safe. lastly when you say purple you mean purple hair? I had some purple haired alaskan thunder fuck last christmas from a buddy, that was pretty great shit! hadnt had any of it since my school days many years ago. Christmas bud chronic is always nice as well, its the only reason I look forward to christmas each year. Ill get an 8th of it or a 1/4 and roast it up through the holidays starting the night I get a bag and finishing it all off by new years eve.I had that nasty swag shit for too many years, now I consider myself a conisuer of fine plants and smoke the best or nto at all. or atleast some pretty decent shit when the best is out of my reach. I had some fucking homegrown dirt weed a few years ago on a trip to St Louis, I got a slight buzz for 10 minute and a headache for a day, I dont waste my good times on that shit, but it was free so atleast it didnt cost me anything money wise.

the weed here is switzerland is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much shittier then what i bought in california. im beganing to think that california grows the best pot to be true. personally i hate all the mumble jumble bullshit about the different names and shit and 1/2 the time its all just made up for marketing... "yeah man this is purply skunky monkey shit...its da bomb" i mean i nvr bought purple because the price increase is so shit compared to how much better it is. i liked fire personally. lots of resin. i never bought unless it had a damn good nose. i find that the first sign of good weed.500 a pound is a damn good price. the largest sack i ever bought was 2 ounces for 300 during growing season then saved em till november when weed prices spike and sold it for in pieces for about 700. i personally smoked for the about a year out of a corn cob pipe because a) it was funny as fuck b) it collected the resin well. you dnt need to buy a pipe, id suggest the waterbottle bong because rolling requires practice. the aluminum can though can lead to aluminum poisoning iv heard so i have never tried it.one thing i loved doing when i drove was getting blazed and driving around the neighborhood because id get the adrenaline of going fast while going about 25 mph.

its about $500 a lbsHOLY SHIT. Are you serious? If you're not lying, that is a very very nice price. If yuo do some simple math, that's $31 an ounce and about $1 per gram. That's crazy man.> lastly when you say purple you mean purple hair?Yeah, purple hairs. The whole bud (wasn't a big bud, rather small) was purple, though it looked black unless you lokoed at it in the light. I smoked this while at my guy's house and this other guy came over and they basically had a weed-tasting party, which I got to be part of. These dudes kept pulling out different kinds of weed and passing it aroudn once to see which was the best. I smoked about 6 or 7 different kinds of (good) weed that day and needless to say, I was gone. They were asking me which one I liked best, and I couldn't tell them because they were all aamzing. That was fun.> Christmas bud chronicNever heard of that. How is it special? And only available aroudn christmas time?> I had that nasty swag shit for too many yearsYeah, I used to smoke that all the time, when I first started. It was this shit I got from the "ghetto" (as ghetto as a suburban place like this area can get) and it was alright, but nothing amazing. Since then, I've moved on (due to meeting the right people at the right time) and now I smoke better shit. Like with what you said, I would rather not smoke than smoke that horrible shit I got from that place.> I had some fucking homegrown dirt weed a few years agoThe dude I get a lot of my shit from brought back some seeds from canada a while ago, and it just so happens that his shit was drying out about two weeks ago. So I've gotten some of that, and it is real nice. He's also got some other shit that he says isn't that good, but it looks fucking amazing. Can't wait to try that, and I'll probably sell some of that since he's going to sell it to me for cheap. It pays to know the right people.And about the whole driving this: I can see where people are coming from when they say high people shouldn't drive, because I've met peopel that REALLY shouldn't be driving while high. However, I do it all the time, and I'm perfectly fine to drive when stoned. Whenever I could, I smoked a blunt on my way to work (25 minute drive to work) every morning. Fun stuff.

what I know for certain is that its shipped in a 5lbs coffee can and for my 5 ounces I paid 300 dollars. You can buy a little machine for a few hudnred that lets you can your own shit at home in a nice little metal can of the 5lbs coffee can size. that what it comes in, but how much comes in it? that I cant be sure about and if you take 5lbs of weed and 5 lbs of coffee and stick em next to each other your gonna have a huge difference in quanity. I was there when ti was opened, I was there to get my shit weighted out and I left, what the total amount was for certain I have no idea and no idea what the peopel that went in on it with me bought I have no idea, I could ask but fuck only knows if they remember. however 300 for 5 ounces ? I got off cheap and I know it.

first off it wasnt 500 a lbs, I got 5 oz for 300. I got tha price because one of my buddies has family affiliations back in LA, I bought at his prices, not at public prices. the names are all bullshit, but the cali chocolate brown is specific, its brown and smells like fucking chocolate when its burned. as to pipes so long as you dont use a brass pipe or build one from brass your fine. a can wastes alot of weed, but its cheap and disposable and with a smal carb in the back iof it you can cut alot of waste.when I was in high school I used to buy it by the oz and sell that in 1/8ths for 25 bucks per. that would get me enough to but another ounce and have a 1/4 to keep for myself and that how all my drug dealing got started.soon ti was buying it at a lbs and selling it as 8th with will net you about 300 dollars profit a day in 1986-87 plus kept me smoked out, and the coke, the acid, the crank, the downers the speeders, the anything I could get my hands on to sell and make osme money and keep myself supplied as well.I was 16 making fucking fantastik money and had no way to account for why I had money with no job. people banging on my bedroom window at 3 am wanting acid when you live at your parents cant be kpt secret for long so I had to quit. just know thta no matter how good or how great a price you pay, thers someone selling it to ya thats raping you price wise and the bigger bag ya buy the better the price.I can goto any steeet corner inths small town and get an oz for 100 bucks, its nt great weed but its good, if I can wait 2 weeks for the sht I cn get it cheaper and from cali, in 3 hours I can get a 1/4 of pretty damned good chronic delvered to my dor for 60.everyone that deals has thier own brand name its to identify and bring in more consumers that liked what they had, the names dont mean shit outside of the cali chocolate. purple haired alaskan thunderfucked was some good chronic that was grown in alaska, and imported by some people I knew, the christmas bud is only availble at christmas and is red and green but not little red hairs, big fucking red beds on green stems. its all a gimmick and a marketing tol.The gov should come to its sense, legalize it and sell stamps that can be redeemed for govement grown known quality at the post office. now no more wasted dollars fighting a mostly harmless weed, and an added revenue. you cna control how much anyone has because you can only get say 2 oz a month at a reasonable price, the markets gone for people to grow and import and sell and you can charge and convict people that dont have a license to have it, the license is a yearly fee and card issued by the gov. the revenue can go into fighting real drugs and having it outside of approved agencys is a misdomener. not a felony. now the prison population decreases, kids that got caught with a fucking joint are not facing ruined lives over a bullshti felony, and most important Im happy and high when I want to be.

and for my 5 ounces I paid 300 dollarsThat's still VERY good. Comes out to be $60 an ounce and $2 a gram, so still better than anything I can get at the moment.> if you take 5lbs of weed and 5 lbs of coffee and stick em next to each other your gonna have a huge difference in quanityWell, yeah. Just like a pound of rocks and a pound of feathers will have different quantities.> however 300 for 5 ounces ? I got off cheap and I know it.Yeah, you came out alright.> in 1986-87Man, I wish I was around for those days. I really do. I'd probably be doing exactly what you're doing, making a shit load of money like you did.> in 3 hours I can get a 1/4 of pretty damned good chronic delvered to my dor for 60.Good price.> its all a gimmick and a marketing tol.Basically, that's what it comes down too. I mean, the orange/red hairs aren't for gimmick, that's actually some good shit. But once you get to some of the exotic types it's mostly just for shoe. High Times (the magazine) has great examples of this.> The gov should come to its sense, legalize it and sell stamps that can be redeemed for govement grown known quality at the post officeBut even if it worked like that, people just do what they did today once they reached their limit for a month: Buy from the streets or other designated dealers.All this talk is making me want to go smoke a blunt. Maybe later

For a new smoker, never smoked before, how much should I buy?I know prices vary, but what is the price range for this amount?I live in British Columbia, Canada. Isn't BC Bud suppost to be the "best" in North America?

> how much should I buy?

I mean a gram will be more than enough for you to smoke by yourself and get fucked up. Are you planning on doing this by yourself or with other people? If not by yourself, get 2 or 3 grams.

> but what is the price range for this amount?

I would say about $10 a gram for you.

> Isn't BC Bud suppost to be the "best" in North America?

I doubt it (even though that's what they may say) but I hear canadian bud is good in general.

Probably start off by myself.. but I do know alot of people that do smoke so.

It depends. Some people have more fun when they're with other (high) people and some have fun by themselves. It's up to you.

Never even really thought to much about this, never really cared about the whole legalization thing. But its pretty weird why they make a natural growing plant illegal.

But its pretty weird why they make a natural growing plant illegal.Well cocaine is a natural growing plant as well, and coke is definetely something that should be illegal.

Yeah, but theres a difference between the two, they both have different effects.

Well, yeah. But you were saying "how can the government make a natural growing plant illegal" You can't realyl say that, since that's not why it's illegal. It's illegal because of .. just read a couple posts above, someone posted it.

they also add lots of tasty chemicals and ruins lives.

smoke a blunt to ur face

Originally Posted By: StillSearching> But its pretty weird why they make a natural growing plant illegal.Well cocaine is a natural growing plant as well, and coke is definetely something that should be illegal. Yes, but cocaine is not found in nature in it's white powdery state. It's been coerced out of the plant by chemical processes. It's like saying gunpowder is found in nature because it's made up of sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate. All found in nature.

but selling it outside of the goverment locations or growing it would still be illegal.The one really shitty thing about weed is that you never know what its laced with.I had some that ended up being laced with PCP few years ago. getting high and wet at the same time is not somethingI reccomend, in fact from my days as a constant take anything abuser, I hihgly reccommend that anyone stay away from getting wet period.If it was retailed by the gov, and grown by the gov, you would alwyas know what you were getting into.besides that I dont think you should be limited. Maybe at first for a test period, but if I can go buy 300 gallons of booze at any given time then why the hell shouldnt I be able to buy a lbs of weed each month? in addition to all of that they can now do a drug test for weed with spit.its only effective for a few hours of when you smoked it.With that there is no reason to debate hwo to enforce DUI and on the job use. if someone is suspected you give a spit test, it onyl reads posative during the high.The one thing I always had against making it legal was that you couldnt differentiate from people that smoked it last ngiht compared to someone that smoked it on thier lunch break. with a saliva test you can. It causes far far less health effects than drinking, is in fact in every way safer than drinking.You wish you were around in 86? the 80s sucked, not as bad as the 70's but still sucked. the latter part wasnt bad, but that first half ate ass. I sold to everyone and anyone, I had a backpack of shit at school that had a street value of easy 3k at any given moment. Ever fold up 1/4 sheet of acid and stick it in your pocket and end up having it transfer through your skin and send you frying through world war two lectures? having been there and done that I can tellya that dealing isnt the way to go. its part of my past for a reason, I avoid it all together these days and havent been inthe business since the early 90s. I had a partner in 90, in yuma az, I left for a bit to visit home, take in the holidays and shit. he stayed to keep shit running. and disapeared on me. they found him about 2 years later with 2k or so in his pocket his pistols still in teh holsters and a bullet hole inthe back of his head in the deserts between mexico and arizona. Iv been stabbed 2 times and shto once, the shooting was during that time and was over drugs. a full fucking gun war in a parkinglot. ducking behond brick walls of stores and shooting back and a bullet hit inches from my head in the brick, had it been 2 inches to the left it would of gone through my throat, as it was it exploded and sent lead nad brick chunks into my neck just below my jaw under my ear. I have a nice shitty looking scar there today, a constant reminder of stupid shit from my youth and how lucky I am to be alive. Had I ever gotten caught with the shit Id still be in prison recieving human injection booster shots from some guy named Molly at the state pen. Iv seen alot of drug deals go bad and knew alot of people that got killed over it or when ti was less erious little presents like broken jaws or arms. the whole trade is a violent paranoid fucking movement and its best to not get involved. But if the gov regulated the weed that whole aspect would go out of it. it could stay where it belongs with illegal narcotics and hallucagenics.Fucking grandmas smoke weed for glacoma, cancer patients recieve some relief from chemo with its use, tell me you couldnt cure fucking eating disorders with weed? ever smoked a jay andd not eaten aftewards? weed gives a nice mellow high, when I smoked I dont want to go rob a fucking store, when I was on coke I was always wanting to fight, steala car, beat the shit out of someone just because violence went so well with it.It should be noted that weed was nto my gateway drug to the other shit either, I had fucked with coke and speed for atleast a year before I ever tried weed. I haent touched atleast outside of unknown lacings a few years ago before I had a reputible trusted source for weed, any of the hard drugs since january 4th 1990. Iv been an alchoholic in the recent past and now havent had a drink on a regular basis in 3 years now. I still have a beer occasionally and while I still drinka vodka straight over ice that frequency has dropped too.in august I had 3 beers at my brothers birthday party, 2 weeks ago I had one with the people that moved in next door after I helped them unload a frezer they had no help with and dropped off the back of the Uhaul. a few months ago Roc was sick and I was bullshitting with him on the phone and poured myself a drink of vodka while we were talking. thats about he extent of my drinking over the last 3 years witha couple beers thrown in on camp trips by the fire. The same bottle of vodka that I opened that day talking with Roc is sitting minus 2 glass fuls in my freezer right now.Weed doesnt lead to abusing other shit, if it did Id stil be where I was in the late 80s or dead.there is nothing itneh world thats harmelss. I know fat vegans that have been vegans for 20+ years, I know meat eaters with various cancers and knew a woman who was a vegan all her life that died of cnacer 5 years ago and never smoked. my step mother is currently suffering through lung cancer and never had a smoke in her life. people eat cake and clog arteries, my grandpa was a farmer and ate veggies all the time with little meat and fought for years with a 5 mile walk after breakfast and a shitty diet trying to drop chloresterol and had 3 heart attacks and a fuckign stroke before breaking bothe femurs and dying of a staff infection he got during surgery from that incident.there is nothign thats completely safe, even water in sufficent quanities will kill you. Notihng in teh world is 100% good for you, everythign in moderation.not a motto I live by, but a good rule to follow.weed is mostly harmless, MOSTLY, just like about everythign else in the world that people do on a daily basis. dealing drugs however is a whole other game that will kill you eventually or at the very least give you a long life of all the sex you never wanted in a prison cell.