I hate new york..

---

alright let me make this short and quick since I'm kind of busy. I honestly don't know what's been going on around this stupid city, I'm clueless to everything or I really don't care. Anyway, my best friend and I have to hide and take care of her cousin who was beat up really badly today by a group of guys. Like he looks SOOOOOOOO messed up. Both eyes are swollen and black and he can't see out of one of them. He's got an insanely large amount of cuts around his face and chest and from my "nursing" skills I think he's broken a rib, needless to say he's in bad shape. The reason for this is that he's involved with a gang, has been for a while but he wants to get out and he's trying to avoid them but the other gang recognizes him all the time and had always been threatening him even after he told them he's not into that anymore. But obviously they don't care because of his record and so today they got him pretty badly but like wimps because he was by himself. Now people are saying there's supposed to be some rebellion happening on October 31 between two cities or whatever. I don't know how that relates to him but he mentioned it to my friend and I to warn us not to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. But right now, he's really messed up and I don't know what to do. He absolutely will not allow us to tell our parents or his and he doesn't want us to report to the cops because he has a bad record with the cops. I'm trying to get him into the hospital that's sort of outside the city but that's kind of hard because then we'd have to take the subway and I have no doubt he'll be seen and then jumped again including us if not worse. So yeah I really don't know what to do.

Its not just NY, its anywhere with gangs, so just about anywhere.The first thing I was taught when I was taking EMT course years ago was to always watch out for your won safety before that of a victem.That being said, your pretty much fucked here.You have no car, no way to transport him and in addition to that his parents are going to find out no matter what, pretty hard to hide a beating like that from anyone, not to mention if he does goto the hospital, thers going to be bills, and calls and his parents will find out anyways.So as a reciever of many injurys lets talk some shit here.If he looks at an object thats backlit does he see fuzzy blue outlines?if so its a definate concustion, that means osme minor brain damage. Iv had a few hundred of em, its nto going to kill him.It does however mean there is risk for more serious brain injury.not seeing the outlines is not an idication that there is no concusion, just that seeing them means there definatly is.Was he knocked out? any time your KOed you have one.Are his ribs obviously out of place? Broken ribs suck ass, hurt with each breath for WEEKS.They are no big deal outside of pain, UNLESS they are fractured bad instead of jsut cracked. Fractured ones can lead to penetrating the lungs and colapsing them and letting you drown in your own blood while your suffocating.If he can talk hes getting air and this prolly is not hte case, but doesnt rule it out entirely.IF he really thinks he needs a doc, then he probally does, hes the only one that knows what hes feeling and how bad it is. That being the case your fucked, and so is he, your going to HAVE to call someone for help. Im on his side when it comes to avoiding cops, but there has to be an adult he can call or have you call.he quit the shit, so parents cant hold tha against him and as a parent Ill let you in on another secret, no matte what you did, parents love you and worrie more about present condition than what led to it. They still would help.

I agree; I got really hurt when I read your title! I love New York Well, Manhattan...as you know I'm not too big of a fan of Bronx.But Grvty is right. I mean, gangas are everywhere! It's just I like to think the New York ones can be especially bad sometimes. I don't really know what you can do for your friend except see how this works out, but that's not always the way to go. I hope this turns out well.And yeah, I hate those freakin' gang people, too. I hate the typical "ghetto" person, or what we used to call "street," or "GANGSTAHHH" in my old school. They're just a bunch of fucking retards that talk too loudly on the train where the girls all scream and yell over stupid stuff, and the guys are wearing such large clothes that they look like hot air balloons and walking like they crapped themselves. I hate the style so much!!!But, I have met a few who are kind and considerate, but all the while caught up in their own drama.

wow chance thanks. lots of info.ok about the eye thing. he says he can only see out of one eye. I would guess so since the other one is tight shut. he's squinting out of the working eye, I'll ask him about the blue blur test.He wasn't beaten to the point where he passed out. He's a big guy who got jumped by a bunch of retarded wimpy pipsqueaks but the odds I guess were too much against him. He said they came up to him first started talking to him and then someone hit him in the back of the knee with a branch to get him on the floor and I that's when they you know... did him in. He was fully conscience he just limped to my friend's house. But yeah he's mad serious about not telling another living soul. And he has a knife with him too. I'm not taking any risks. His rib feels fractured. Two of them I found so far. I'm surprised he trusts me but I guess it's because he's cool with my cousin. Both in the same gang. Anyway, I'm going to ask him if there's at least one adult I can tell. Right now he's staying in my friend's basement but it won't be long before his parents actually realize he's missing. I have a question though. Just in case he absolutely refuses to go the hospital cause he's kind of hard headed. He can't walk on his leg because his knee is really messed up. Like the branch that hit the back of his knee must have been really big. He's bleeding in the back of it and I cleaned it off and put ointment on it a little only and bandaged it up but his knee looks out of place. should I wrap his knee or put some ice on it or something? That seems to be one of the most painful things he's suffering from.

Originally Posted By: katonsuiitonI agree; I got really hurt when I read your title! I love New York Well, Manhattan...as you know I'm not too big of a fan of Bronx.And yeah, I hate those freakin' gang people, too. I hate the typical "ghetto" person, or what we used to call "street," or "GANGSTAHHH" in my old school. They're just a bunch of fucking retards that talk too loudly on the train where the girls all scream and yell over stupid stuff, and the guys are wearing such large clothes that they look like hot air balloons and walking like they crapped themselves. I hate the style so much!!!umm... ok.....and this isn't happening in the Bronx for one. and in case you didn't know THE BRONX is still considered the city. The Bronx... where I live, where I grew up, where I work, where my family is. You need to chill out with that Bronx=bad mess. just saying.Edit:and I don't HATE gang members. HATE is a strong word. But I can't say the same for New York with the state it's in. And anyone who says otherwise is in denial. NY is having a rough time right now. But like I said, I don't hate gang members. They are confused, insecure, and feel the need to prove their worth.Half of my family is invovled in gangs... both America and Brazil.....

Erm, never said it was in bronx And I don't find that bronx = bad mess anymore, but that's besides the point.Why do you think NY's condition has decreased over time? Am I just not paying attention to current events, or just not realizing something that's going on?And sorry if I sounded too angry over the whole feeling of dislike towards style here, it's just... -sigh- Where I grew up and how I grew up and what I did during growing up (which, as you know, am still going through) just makes me think that sometimes, the whole thing can get so stupid and avoided.But really, I don't know what to tell you about your situation. If you guys can't go anywhere for help when you need it, what do you plan to do?-EDIT-If you're worried about being spotted in commute, why don't you take a private taxi or something? Or take an unfamiliar route - though it may be longer, it would avoid the usuals the people who would come after you go on.

Gang violence happens everywhere... But New york, specifically long island, has some pretty bad gang influence. Shame.

If his knee looks out of place then it really does need proper medical treatment. If it's not properly treated it may never heal properly itself. The suggestion of taking a taxi seems a good one. He should be in an ER.

sigh.. I doubt he'll go for it but I'll try. He's really pissed right now. He's been cursing up a storm and threatening and he's kind of freaking me out to be quite frank. but thanks guys.

lol I know it's not only in New York.I just happen to not like New York at this moment in my life.

ice in a plastic bag wrapped in a towel or a rubber ice bag is ALWAYS a good idea.it nevre hurts to use ice.15 minutes on and 30 minutes off.Iv had my share of ass beatings and accidents and never have been in a gang. I know how to deal with the after results of having my ass kicked.if he walked there hes probally fine. however if thta knee looks out of place at all or if he says its feeling like it slips sideways Id seek medical attention. knees are shitty weak things that dont last a lifetime and it doesnt take too much to fuck them up good for many years to come.

1. This dude's obviously in need of some medical attention.

2. How does he expect to hide this from his parents? I'm guessing all the injuries will still be there tomorrow... and the next day... and the next

You have to be KIDDING me. You are helping him out, putting yourself at risk, and he's CURSING at you? And, to top it all off, he's being an idiot about the whole thing and won't tell an adult so that he can go to a hospital and get medical aid. Maybe he should have thought about that before he joined a gang... But whatever.

Originally Posted By: smilez916Gang violence happens everywhere... But New york, specifically long island, has some pretty bad gang influence. Shame. I've lived in Long Island since 4th grade. The gang influence is pretty non-existant in 95% of the towns. I can prob name the bad towns on one hand. The island is pretty large.

I'm really really sorry when I say this but, I REALLY hate gangs. I think they should all be shoved out of an airlock on a space station. All of them. I really don't think they deserve to live. They say the reason they are that way is because that's how they are raised? But come on people, they have a choice. Either don't get involved or move away. They say it's not that simple. That they are pressured into it. That they'll get hurt if they don't join. Okay, but what about those who are doing the threatening? They had a choice too. They could've just said no as well. And here's another thing, they're cowards all of them. I bet if those within the gang all decided to not be in the gang (and this goes for their rivals too) anymore, life would be bliss. Again I really do apologize for my views. I just thought I should share my opinion.

Quote: I really don't think they deserve to live. who are we to judge who lives and dies?  Quote:They say the reason they are that way is because that's how they are raised? But come on people, they have a choice. yes IT DOES have to do with how their raised. and NO in most cases they DON'T have a choice.  Quote: Either don't get involved or move away. They say it's not that simple. That they are pressured into it. That they'll get hurt if they don't join. Get hurt?? BIG understatement. how about they'll be shot. how about their mothers and sisters will be raped. that their little siblings will be kidnapped when they come home from elementary.  Quote:Okay, but what about those who are doing the threatening? They had a choice too. They could've just said no as well. I have nothing to say this but you have NO IDEA at all. just no clue. it's not simple at all. Quote:I bet if those within the gang all decided to not be in the gang (and this goes for their rivals too) anymore, life would be bliss.if you think about, armies that fight in wars are really LARGE SIZE gangs because they have the same determination. Quote:Again I really do apologize for my views. I just thought I should share my opinion.that's all nice, however, you judge too much. I am against gang violence and I've had my fair share of gang banger experiences. Like I said before, half of my family and most of my friends are involved in different gangs, all in Brazil, Cuba, and America. And you know what, I love your aspect on things. If only it WAS that simple, but no, it's far from it. Bloods, Crypts, Latin Kings, Killa Boys Crew, Camo etc... you think the young boys, these YOUNG BOYS who are involved in these gangs just thought to themselves "hey, I think I want to get involved in a gang where I get to shoot people and be on the lookout for gang bangers and cops for the rest of my life." I don't think many people have that mentality. I'm sure some do, but not all. My oldest brother, an ex gang banger, did not make the choice to get involved in the Bloods. I figure it may be the fact that he stopped someone from shooting his best friend, or maybe it's because he was seen defending him that people automatically judged him to be a member of the Bloods. Or it might be the fact that he was threatened with his life by the Camo and the Krypts because of his defense and since the cops don't do a doggone thing about anything just sitting there like the fat jelly rolls eating their donuts and his only protection is the Bloods. No, he didn't really have a choice. He's not part of that anymore, and he had to make costly sacrifices to get out. That period in our lives was very critical, very dangerous. My sister, and other two brothers and I still get threats and cornered by gang bangers always asking what my brother is doing, where is he, why is he being a.... something etc etc. And I admit sometimes I get a little too big for my britches by getting smart mouthy with them and telling them "it's none of you daggone bizness now get the heck out of my way". But it's because I remember what they put him through and this family that brings that anger.And like I said, I don't mean to be rude or anything. I don't like gangs, at all. And I agree that the world would be a better place if they didn't exist. But I know how some of them are, why they are like this, why they do the things they do. The guy who was staking out at my friends house gets constantly abused by his dad. His mother doesn't do jack diddly sqwat. And when I think about it, it's more the matter of survival. Cause the cops live in their own little fantasy world to the point that those guys with the army outfits and combat boots have to break things up. It's sad. But gang bangers are confused people. And as hard as it may seem they are incredibly insecure. And it's like.. everytime they have drive-bys or challenges or whatever it's like they have to prove themselves. "Yo, G! Gun down Mikey T and we see what happens from there". Why? He has to prove his worth. It's sad, and I pray for them because they are going through so much. Inflicting pain and death upon themselves and those around them.You have to remember, that these guys are someones son or brother. And most of the times it's not their lives that are threatened when he wants to quit the gang, it's his family, the ones he love. Really... it's not that simple. Because if it was, there wouldn't be as much violence as there is now.

Don't apologize for your views :O. A top policy here is to accept different opinions.Though I may not feel as strongly as you do about ALL of them being shot out of a space station, I do dislike the typical ones. But there are a few who can be good people, sometimes. The only things I don't like about the whole idea of gangs is that they resort to violence and many don't have decency for respect, logic, privacy, and other people. Especially the quietness of the morning subway car.

there's no such thing as a "quiet subway car" lol that's funny. whether there's gang bangers on there or not. They tend to stay incognito. I hate taking the subway by the way. It's so hot down there like you're going to burn alive. And then you have those rude business people bumping into you. You just want to slap them and teach them some manners. It's called "EXCUSE ME" rude. Especially when you see those HUGE NEW YORK CITY RATS! omg those things are oogly. They are as big as a cat. They could eat a cat. I have nightmares about NYC rats. They havee their own little Manhatten in subways.

They do have a choice. If their parents or what ever are abusing them then call the cops on them. talk to someone. It's that frelling simple. The reason why gangs start is because they want to protect their neighborhood. Then they become corrupt when all that power goes to their head. So yeah I have absoloutely nothing to apologize about, now that I think about it. People always have a choice. That's what life is all about choices. Apparently They don't make the right ones. And no I don't judge people. Everyone who knows me knows that I don't judge people. You said who am I to Judge who lives and dies, well who are they to judge whoe lives and who dies? If they are the ones to choose who lives and who dies then I guess everyone has that right. Again just my thoughts on the subject. Don't like it? Fine, deal with it.

LOL. Yeah, but this time of year, I'm glad for the self-heated subway stations. And what do you expect? The rats feed off of the toxic combinations of what we throw down there Us NYers can get so dirty sometimes! lol.Lol your post made me crack up. Thanks. I needed that :D. Yeah, I guess the business people can be mean, except for some who you want to bump into because they look very pleasing in their business outfits