I don't know exactly why I want to post all of this that I'm about to write, but I'm going to. Maybe my subconscious wants me to see a question that I want to ask or see an answer to a question that I haven't thought of. We'll see after I've written it all.Basically, I'm just going to write/summarize the events since I've started high school and a little from middle school, mainly in chronological order, so bear with me here. And you don't have to feel obligated to read it, although if you do, I'll make it a little easier to understand events by going into a little more depth and explanation if I can. Middle School:I pretty much hung out with a group of kids most of the time during school. There were mainly three or four of them that I was very good friends with. I also was friends with someone whom I had met in Karate a long time ago, though he had stopped doing Karate. Throughout middle school, or at least until it neared the end, I pretty much believed that any relationship during that time was completely pointless, and thus I didn't really care about them. This was a pretty stupid opinion, as I see now, considering that those ease you into the relationships that will happen later on that are much more important. Although there was a girl I kindof "met" at the end of the year during a Spanish Final project, and I probably should have gone further with that, but that's in the past and there's no going back.Freshmen Year:Of the people that I knew well at my Middle School, two are at the same highschool that I'm in. The person I had met and was friends with out of school also went to my highschool. This was a pretty bad year socially. One of my two best friends, we'll call him ZA, was from my Middle School, and I only had one period for one semester with him, and we also started going to eachother's house a lot less. My other best friend, the one from karate, we'll call JE. I went to JE's house quite often and vice-versa, as well as many times during middle school. Of the few friends that I made that year, I only really continued to be friends with two of them from then till now. It would be three, but one of them changed schools. The other two I'll call VI and TR. In that year, I only really talked much with one girl during L.A., who we'll call LA. Unfortunately, like the previous year, I didn't go further at the end of the year even though I knew her more than the one at the end of eigth grade. During the L.A. final, I was at one of my group members' house and she was working on the same project at the house next door, and said hi to me from over the fence, so I see that as a stupid mistake.Summer: Go on a group trip to Australia with only one person I kindof knew from Middle School. Kindof get better at hanging with girls, although it's mainly them that initiate the whole thing. Pales in comparison to the next group trip, though.Sophomore Year:This year was ten times better than the previous year, and I matured a lot in the social area. I pretty much got about 14 more friends of varying rates that I'm still friends with now, one of which is a girl, let's call her MN, although she's a person I'd be friends with, not a relationship. Partly because of the fact that she does drugs (worse than marijuana), but mostly because I see her more as a friend. Not all of these people have classes with me, but when we see eachother we'll talk and sometimes hang out in school if we can. LA from the previous year, though, I don't have any classes with and never really see or talk to her during Sophomore year, stupid mistake from Freshmen year. I have a good time that year, although I never really go to anyone's house and no one comes to mine except JE, until a certain event. Basically, he stole 200 dollars from my room, and pretty much ended that friendship that had lasted for around 5 years. Could have been a better year, but it was so much better than the year before.Summer:I go on a group trip with New Mexicans to China. I become pretty good friends with three people, but mainly two of those three. I am fairly decent friends with almost all the guys in the group, except one or two that I just couldn't stand after a while. In the first half, I'm kindof friends with about three or four girls, although I only hang out with about two of them. The second half, I become sortof friends with another but I mainly get into a start of what could have been a relationship if we lived in the same state. It was pretty much the first time where both parties liked eachother and showed it. We sat next to eachother on the plane rides home and messed with eachother, nothing really serious though, unless you compare it to my lack of anything of the kind prior to it. This really helped in maturing me socially even more.Junior Year (now):The quarter ended today, so I'll talk about stuff that's come up to now. I've become friends with about ten more people so far, though only one or two which might have the potential of being a higher grade of friend. I don't know how to explain it, kindof like those who I could see coming to my house. I've kindof become sortof friends with about three girls, but mainly just in the class that I'm in with each of them. One was through MN and the other was through sitting at same table in a class. Their kindof sortof friends because I can mainly joke with them during class. Also, LA is in one of my classes this year, and we haven't really talked for the amount of time we did during Freshmen year, but still can joke a little with class. The final one, MA, I feel like I would kindof like to be in a relationship with. We've talked most of the time at the beginning of class at our seats before class starts, and I sit next to her (was behind, but one day someone moved into my seat so I moved into the seat by her). I guess there could be sortof a question here. I can talk to her, but not for very long. I also don't know exactly how I would try to get to know her more, and I don't have any clue as to whether or not she already has a boyfriend or anything like that. Any suggestions would be nice here. Aside from that, I've also started playing Ultimate Frisbee after school with ZA and another friend, NK, and NK is someone I could also be higher-degree friends with. Also, another friend from last year, EN, came over to my house to play Halo 3 with me. A little unrelated to those, though, is the fact that I'm trying to start working out. I haven't really worked out on free weights and stuff, partly because I'd prefer a schedule with more free-time for a better workout schedule, but I do the machines two or three times a week if I can, and when I don't go to the gym I do things like pushups, abs, and stuff with balance. Once it snows, frisbee will be off for the winter and I'll have much more free time then, so I'm planning to go into free weights the moment that happens. I have noticed improvements in my strength, but not my weight or physical appearance yet (120 lbs 5'8"). Currently, I see about 7 or 8 of my current school-friends becoming higher-degree friends, including EN and ZA, but I'm not sure exactly how to go about doing that. The two closest are EN and ZA of course. I guess that's another sort-of question.In Karate, I've become stronger friends with the people I knew before my long break from Karate, as well as getting closer to LN, a girl that I've though about wanting to be in a relationship, though I don't think it would work out or should happen, since she is going to be leaving after this year because she's a senior. But who knows, it could happen.For those who read this, thanks for taking time to read my very long post. For those that just skipped to the end, I don't blame you, but there's probably not much point in you posting though, but who knows.For no other reason than I decided I'd do it during one of my thinking times during the time before I sleep, here's some pictures of me. I didn't do a frontal head shot because I absolutely hate the unevenness of my two sides of my face, which is just magnified by a straight on picture up close.FullLeftRightGetting a haircut tomorrow. We'll see if I'm satisfied with my haircut this time...
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Hi Cider! First, you have nothing to worry about in the looks department. I don't know why you are worried about unevenness of your face. No-one is perfectly symmetrical, and you look fine. Looks are not going to be a barrier to getting a relationship.Your history to me shows a story of steady progress, but slowed by lack of self-confidence. Perhaps shyness is part of your personality. Don't worry: people who take their time often come out with the strongest and best relationships in the end.You seem reluctant to take initiatives, and this is a scary thing to do, but important. Try to push yourself sometimes past what you are comfortable with.When talking to a girl, you don't need to be a sparkling and witty conversationalist. Ask her about herself, about her family and friends, about her likes and dislikes and opinions. People like talking to someone who shows sincere interest in them and what they think. You will get to know her better and she will see you as great to talk to.
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Part of the problem is that talking about stuff like that usually isn't the best thing to do during class, especially when it's Spanish 4 IB. I'm also probably going to go to lunch with a few people tomorrow and then play Ultimate Frisbee with them, though none of them play on the "team," but I know most of them. I just have to figure out how to get to the lunch place; I live in a dif city >.>Also, I've never been to a dance and I wouldn't know what to do. Another stupid mistake of not just going to the dances Freshmen year >.> And if there's a Halloween dance on the 31st, I probably won't go to, cus I got tickets to the Opening Nuggets game, though I might invite a friend to go see them with me, cus my sister might not go. I'm also thinking about getting phone numbers from the afore-mentioned people who I could become higher-degree friends with, although one of them doesn't have a cell phone.Also, the uneveness is only visible from a straight on shot that's fairly close up. Doubtful it would be noticed in normal conversations, so I'm not worried about that. It's just mainly in pictures that I don't like it. On kindof un-related subjects but ones that I find quite funny...When I went to buy some pizza snacks at a store, I told the cashier I would have boughten more food if I had more cash, and I think he thought I might have been in college, since he talked about how he was in the same situation and barely paying for water and electricity and having to sell games >.>Something that I really liked. Since 8th grade I've been changing my looks a lot, trying to look less like a person who looks like they spend a lot of time studying or is a nerd. Anyways, I was in the tutoring room and someone needed to be tutored in Calculus, and she said that I didn't look like the person who would be in Calc 2/3 as a Junior. Heh.
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Of course you don't talk during class. You want to find some way to talk to her one-to-one.There's always a first time for going to a dance. Don't regret the past, just go.
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Quote:I told the cashier I would have boughten more food if I had more cash, and I think he thought I might have been in college, In ur first pic (full) u remind me of a dude i know. he's dating on of my gf's friends and goes ot our college. i was meaning to PM u and ask if u were just saying u were going to cut ur hair or if u were asking for sujestions.. Jason;s hair cut looks good on him and since u two are simular looking it probably look good on you...but its not a drastic cnage of a hair cut tho.
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I don't know how to get to a situation where we can talk one-to-one (way to avoid a double entendre :-P) And I was going to get a haircut, but barber closed at noon and we didn't get there early enough.
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Oh, you look fine! Haha, really, you have nothing to worry about, I'm sure there's a ton of girls who want to go out with you.
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It's not that I'm worried about my looks, other than wanting to get stronger; it's that I . . . look at the post above, I don't remembever what it says. I just felt like posting the pics >.> Just cus it took forever for me to post my pics at a forum with people I hung out with online a lot, so... ya.And here's an ugly picture from like 8th grade or something:http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1442/nocider8vi.jpgHell of a lot of improvement, if you ask me.I'm also maybe doing facebook, I've an account and sent out friend invite stuff, but Idk if I'll use it much or not.
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Can you invite her to do homework with you? Does she walk home and can you join her? Is there something you could invite her to join you at, as a friend?You have improved in looks as you have become older, as many people do. I think someone seeing you in 8th grade would have predicted you would improve. But you weren't ugly then.
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Can you invite her to do homework with you? Idk, I'm not someone who really needs help any homework, and I don't think she is either since we're both in really advanced classes (I have a 4.375 GPA).
Originally Posted By: Ineligible
Does she walk home and can you join her? I have the last period off and I usually will drive home (15-minute drive) and I think she just lives right across from the school, but doesn't have 8th off (I think).
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Is there something you could invite her to join you at, as a friend?Not that I can think of.
I probably should ask her what she has for off-periods some time.
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Having a high GPA doesn't mean you can't do things together! In any case, the studying together here is just a means to the end of having an opportunity to talk. You can ask her to help you with something - people really appreciate being asked for help - even if you don't need it.
Or you can say "I'm going to see (insert name of movie, art gallery, exhibition of rare books at library, games store, etc, etc) on Saturday, would you like to come too?".
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But I haven't asked for help on homework from anybody in five years, and it was from my dad >.> It would be odd, but I think I'll first see what off-periods she has, and then if we have any of the same, maybe do something like studying then. And if it's the last period, she might also be doing IB Diploma like I am, and I could ask about stuff like that. We'll see >.> I've asked for help in Spanish, but more like, "what was the homework" >.> She has the same L.A. class as I do, and I'm not doing well in it (meaning that I have a B). If she has a good grade I could probably ask her to help me with a paper after I've written the rough draft. Idk.
On another note, I think the Facebook thing is going to be a good idea for overallness. Help me get to know more people / know people I know more.
On an unrelated note, I have tickets to the World Series. Shweetness.
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Haha, in my eighth grade class picture, I wore these two little pigtails on the top of my head, I looked so stupid... Oh boy, good times.
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She has different off periods, Idkkkkkkkk. >.>
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You'll have to be more aggressive then. "Faint heart ne'er won fair lady."
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Sure it did.I'm probably making too much out of it.
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I have a question about dances and stuff. Normally, how well would the two people know eachother? What kind of clothes would be worn? How many people actually go to them with someone they've asked, as opposed to just with a bunch of friends?Any other general stuff about dances? I don't think there are any dances soon until Winter, but I was wondering about this stuff.If this should be a new topic, feel free to split it off.
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You can invite anyone ya wish, doesn't really matter if you don't know them well. Clothes... depends on how formal it is. Groups often go together, it helps when some people aren't great at asking partners to go.
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One of the things that makes it a little more difficult for me to go with groups is that the people I'm friends with don't always know eachother. So basically I'm friends with lots of different "kinds" of people. Although I'm pretty sure I could overcome that.
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Clothes for guys are pretty basic, khakis and a nice shirt, but depending on how formal it is, you might wear a tie to match your date. If your date is a girl, she will probably know all about what you'll have to wear, and might have even planned it out for you. We girls get like that sometimes with dances (especially prom and homecoming, so watch out).You will want to go with someone you know reasonably well, just so you know you won't get bored talking to them, or discover that you actually really dislike them. But other than that, ask whoever you want.Usually, everyone goes together. Very rarely do people go alone, mostly because girls need someone to help them do their hair and make-up and fasten that hard-to-reach zipper spot in the back. But moms can always be substituted, so I guess if you really want a private date, you could go for it.Dances get sweaty (even in winter!), so make sure you apply deoderant before the dance, and maybe wear a shirt underneath.