School Uniforms: Yes or No?

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Really depends on the uniform though. I’ve seen/heard of some really nice ones and I wouldn’t have found it bad to wear such if we had that here.Now in Kindergarten, I find that perhaps a bit silly, but in school it would be otherwise fine. It should definitely not cause extra costs for the family though, so there should be some kind of support there — afterall we’re talking about something that’s compulsory.

Originally Posted By: Radeckl

I'm sure if you ask nicely, they'll let you wear a nice, plaid skirt!

HAHA! You have quite a sense of humor! I think I'll pass on the skirt, though!

I'm glad to see all the discussion that this topic created!

I'm also a bit surprised that so far, everyone seems to be in favor of school uniforms. That's fine because everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.

By the way, I'm not a pervert, and sex wasn't on my mind in kindergarten. I just thought the girls looked pretty (in a non-sexual way), while the guys looked like dorks with the shirt and tie.

Another issue that I had in kindergarten was, we didn't have a spring uniform, like some schools have now. This meant that we had to wear that uncomfortable crap all year.

Originally Posted By: nesh2007By the way, I'm not a pervert, and sex wasn't on my mind in kindergarten. I just thought the girls looked pretty (in a non-sexual way), while the guys looked like dorks with the shirt and tie.Relax, it was just a joke.

Originally Posted By: nesh2007Another issue that I had in kindergarten was, we didn't have a spring uniform, like some schools have now. This meant that we had to wear that uncomfortable crap all year. Hey nesh, did you wear a uniform only when you were in kindergarden? Or did you wear one when you went to middle or high school?I just realized that you've only mentioned kindergarden. And IF that's the only year you wore a uniform, then I don't get why you're so uptight on uniforms. I mean, I'm having a hard time believing that a litte kid would worry about supression or individualism. Kids at that age don't even know what those words mean, lol.Plus, we ALL looked like dorks when we were younger.

"we all looked like dorks when we were younger."

Amen to that!

And I knew what individualism meant :laughing: Well, no not individualISM but individual :laughing: And probably suppress too :grin:

Quote:Hey nesh, did you wear a uniform only when you were in kindergarden? Or did you wear one when you went to middle or high school?I just realized that you've only mentioned kindergarden. And IF that's the only year you wore a uniform, then I don't get why you're so uptight on uniforms. I mean, I'm having a hard time believing that a litte kid would worry about supression or individualism. Kids at that age don't even know what those words mean, lol.Plus, we ALL looked like dorks when we were younger.I only wore a uniform in kindergarten. I didn't know about supression or individualism in kindergarten; I just didn't like the uniforms because they were uncomfortable. It wasn't until I was older (like around 13 or 14) when I started openly opposing uniforms.I like what you said about "we all looked like dorks when we were younger!" We all have our dorky moments, mine happened to be in kindergarten and in third grade when my mom made me wear a vest and tie for my school picture (I didn't have to wear a uniform after kindergarten). What was worse was, I was the ONLY STUDENT dressed that way. At my workplace, I sometimes see students wearing school uniforms. I hate to admit it, considering I am against school uniforms, but they do typically look good wearing them. What I feel is pity for the students that have to wear that "school-dictated attire" five days of the week. I also see students in my local city's library wearing uniforms, and they attend PUBLIC city schools. When I attended school there (I moved after 4th grade), uniforms were not worn. Students who wear uniforms even have to wear them on class trips, which, in my eyes, is the same as wearing a sign that says, "I go to a Catholic school," or "I go to a school that makes us wear uniforms."Interestingly, my parents had to wear uniforms when they went to school, and they didn't seem to mind. They liked the fact that they didn't have to figure out what to wear in the morning.As nice as that may seem, I would rather choose what I wear and look more like an individual then look like a clone of my classmates wearing the exact same thing.Feel free to ask me questions or discuss this with me!

Quote:It wasn't until I was older (like around 13 or 14) when I started openly opposing uniforms.Why? You only had to wear it for one school year. It's not like it was a problem for you. Quote:What I feel is pity for the students that have to wear that "school-dictated attire" five days of the week. I also see students in my local city's library wearing uniforms, and they attend PUBLIC city schools. When I attended school there (I moved after 4th grade), uniforms were not worn. Students who wear uniforms even have to wear them on class trips, which, in my eyes, is the same as wearing a sign that says, "I go to a Catholic school," or "I go to a school that makes us wear uniforms."You pity them? Don't you think that's a bit extreme, seeing as you have nothing to do with their school?The middle school I went to was public and we had to wear uniforms. It's not like that shocking news to anyone. And of course, wore them off campus for a trip. I have no idea where you are coming up with the silly idea that wearing our uniforms in public was a sign to the whole world that our individuality was taken away. We looked like school kids, which we were. Quote:As nice as that may seem, I would rather choose what I wear and look more like an individual then look like a clone of my classmates wearing the exact same thing.I don't understand that since you only wore a uniform once and you're no longer in kiddy school. But you're intitled to your opinion, so it's all good.However, that's exactly what would happen if you were to wear regular clothing. Tony and Bob were quick to point out that, even if kids wore whatever they want, they would wear what other kids would wear so they can join cliques.

anythings better than seeing some boy's pants barely on his butt. nobody wants to see your boxers, for pete's sake get a belt!

or at least a size that fits.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14anythings better than seeing some boy's pants barely on his butt. nobody wants to see your boxers, for pete's sake get a belt!or at least a size that fits. I agree with that. I cannot stand it when guys wear their pants at or below their butt. But I still am against uniforms in school.

Originally Posted By: sdpUniforms are meant to eliminate individuality so that the environment can be about LEARNING. Its meant to equalize everyone so that the HAVE's and the HAVE NOT's are the same. It's intended to reduce the chance that someone will be ostracized just because they dress weird, etc... SO yeah I'm for uniforms. By that logic, haircuts for those that attend a school should be regulated; we don't want someone ostracized just because they have a weird haircut.School is not just about learning. It is also about being social, otherwise why have times when children can be together, when they could be learning? Or just make their break isolated and even still related to learning.Although I go to a skill where most people are "haves." I don't know if I'm for or against uniforms though, when normal clothes would never distract me or most of my peers from learning.

Of course you can only go so far. Why do you think they shave the heads of military recruits? Hygiene is one reason, but the other is to make them look alike too.Social interaction is also something you learn. Eliminating the visual aspect (clothing), helps even things out.

The military isn't a mandatory thing that everyone must do in the U.S. or Europe. Citing it as a reason for cutting hair is not a valid argument, as they are two different things.

Also, things like physical looks and things like jewelry and make-up. What about those things? They can also show status, and are probably what would be used if there were uniforms for schools.

More later, have to go, thought not finished.

Huh? what are you talking about? I didn't cite it as an reason, rather as an example.You're trying to nit-pick details like looks, jewelry, hair as things that aren't controlled. Obviously, you are missing the point of what is trying to be achieved with school uniforms.

Was the whole "individuality" and "keeping cliques out of the way" thing the real purpose of uniforms in the first place? Or was it just for representation of one's school? If it's the former, then I sort of feel like it's a lost cause.

Originally Posted By: katonsuiiton

Was the whole "individuality" and "keeping cliques out of the way" thing the real purpose of uniforms in the first place?
Of course not. Like sdp keeps saying, it's to equalize the students. Plus, the students look more like school kids (which they are) and adequately represent their school. And I've already explained my thoughts on the idea that uniforms supresses individuality.

And as for the cliques, it doesn't matter. They form in almost every school.

Maybe not looks, but jewelry can be seen as a status-indicator like clothes can. And the reason you want to have school uniforms is to get rid of those indicators. So what about jewelry?I don't remember what I was going to add at the end of that, but it wasn't a completely thought out post, since I had to leave.

You're completely missing the point and focusing more on looks.

Clothes are to looks as jewelry is to looks.

The idea of uniforms weren't made up to seperate us based on status. It's to EQUALIZE and UNIFY!When I wore them in school, no one paid attention to jewelery.

Idk, but whatever.And I don't see how uniforms "UNIFY!" It may cause them to look unified, but appearances aren't always true.