It's that time, the two month period between Thanks giving and the begining of the New Year that brings about the givign season. When people set in a seemingly happier, cheery mood think beyond themselves and to their friends and neighbors in the spirit of friendship. And whilist there are still wars and atrocities, and god knows this world is sad enough to make a normally happy person desperatly sad at the hope of it all, this season does just that. Give Hope. I hate Turkey, I actually really hate Thanks Giving (Leave it to a society with an obesity epidemic to celebrate a holiday that stuffs food into other food :rolleyes:). Beyond just Thanks giving and the December holidays, we're also ushering a new year of prospects and forgotten resolutions. I love the winter... Everything seems to be shaded lightly blue, and people smile and laugh a little slower. Snow and bright lights. It really is a beautiful time of year. And How neat to spend it in North Pole, Alaska.
I hope where ever you guys are in the world, you're enjoying your time, and Happy Hollidays.
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Happy Hollidays
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Not many people know this or think about it, but it's also the most depressing time of the year.Just saying.
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Appreciate it Java.Now onto some pressing matters, I hate to whore this thread up and take it off topic, but it does indirectly deal with your title. I hate the fact that we've become so fucking PC that now we have to concede to saying "Happy Holidays" to appease those who don't celebrate Christmas or whatever else occurs. Not so much Tgiving, but mainly Xmas. Now we've got several santa's banned from saying Ho Ho Ho...what the fuck is that bullshit? Sorry for the profanity...I blame the nyquil and my everloving cold. But thank you Java, and same to you
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You Realize you're talking to a Jew Right? I say it out of habit because the majority of people don't celebrate what I do.
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That was thoughtful. Yeah. For the most part, I like it. At least the not-shopping parts. Mainly just spending time with my whole family, when they're NOT being obnoxious, is the good part. I'm going to be all holiday-d out by the time christmas comes here, though. They've had everything decorated, before halloween ever came. It's ridiculous.
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I agree Java, it's the best time of year. If they wouldn't put the damn Christmas shit up the day before Halloween it would be prefect.Brisk mornings, early evenings, leaves falling in light snow, hot tea and coco, crisp cold sheets on the bed, snuggling under the blanket with your lover, a warm bed in a cold room.
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Its perfect isn't it? sighs
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Originally Posted By: OldFolksleaves falling in light snowSpeak for yourself. -_-But yeah. It is nice, and the weather and all. Though here it's probably nowhere near like it is, say up in New York or something. me and my friends like to walk all over the southside of town during this time of year. the weather's perfect, and it's just a lot of fun. and it's sort of energizing, the weather.
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I wasn't speaking DIRECTLY to Java.
I was making the observation in American *as far as I know* society. I wasn't berating Java for saying Happy Holidays. Again, I was saying that what I've noticed in SOCIETY is that it has become culturally unacceptable to say Merry Christmas, or whatever. If Java wants to say Happy Holidays, that's 100% acceptable :).
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lol.. yea.. now my mom says happy holidays and marry christmas to people. even if they look like they want to kill you she smiles and says that too them. She loves the hoidays.. one thing she don't do is decorate for christmas b4 it;s december... when she came back home from showing the first weekend of this month she put out her thanksgiving decrations.. she want take them down till december when she puts up christmas decorations.. a family down the main road from us already have their christmas tree up and outside chrsitmas lights up..(it's not december yet!) it's like walking into a store... hell when we start skipping november/thanksgiving.......just go from halloween to christmas. i'm sick of christmas songs b4 christmas ever gets here!
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Maybe it comes from living just below the buckle of the bible belt (somewhere in the sweaty groin area) but I never once heard of this being an issue until the religious right made it one.So what if a store says "happy holiday" rather than "merry christmas" there are more holidays around that time than just christmas, so it makes good business sense.Speaking from my corner of the world, I think more than being a problem of society being overly politically correct, it shows a segment of society trying to demonstrate and feel subjugated to maintain their cohesion and further their cause.
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Yeah it does seem unacceptable in general, but it is ok in certain circles. This is my depressing time of year, though, not yet this year. Yeah I am sleeping more, but I am doing it while it is dark, not just all day.My favorite part of this time of year. The fireplace....I have one back this year. Though, IDK what to make of my man comming home, eating and falling asleep in the recliner because he is all warm and cozy And it ONLY happens when I have a fire going.I actually think I am looking forward to the holidays this year!!!Happy Holidays to all of you too!!
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>>>Leave it to a society with an obesity epidemic to celebrate a holiday that stuffs food into other food :rolleyes:
He he, this year we're having a Turducken from Lafayette LA delivered for T.Giving. My dad still has to cook it but what it is (Java cover your ears and eyes) it's a chicken stuffed into a duck stuffed into a turkey. WHOA. Even this caveman has some doubts. But I do love duck, and the other two are game, so I'll give Turducken a chance.
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It's damn good. I had it last Christmas.
Now if it was also stuffed with steak and then wrapped in bacon it would be the ultimate carnivores fantasy feast and Java would just probably pass out. :grin:
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I've never heard of this. That's insane but sounds delicious!!!
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I only recently heard of those..lolSounds like it might take a while to cook! That duck should make the rest of it nice and juicy...would you cook it turkey breast down to bast while baking?I don't have the breast only, or I would be smoking mine on the bbq, so, instead I will get out the gas grill and rotisserie my turkey...Fresh this year..yay!I made pinto bean pie last night to give it a try...YUMMY, new thing for the Thanksgiving table this year!
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So what if a store says "happy holiday" rather than "merry christmas" there are more holidays around that time than just christmas, so it makes good business sense.
I understand what your saying. But I am shopping in thier store for "Christmas presents"....they are marketing thier products to be sold as Christmas presents, yet when I buy from that store, no one can say Merry Christmas to me?
I don't think Christmas has anything to do with Jesus anymore. And I really don't care. It's a fun holiday. It's fun to buy gifts for people, it's fun to fake out my kids every year thinking Santa brought all these presents and ate thier cookies. I agree with BMOC about all the political correct BS. Say Merry Christmas to me dammit! :grin:
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I don't think it's so much offensive as it is exclusionary. I myself love saying Christmas but at the same time I realize not everyone relates to that. When a country as a whole adopts a tradition from one view point only, there's bound to be contraversy.
The funny thing is that this country was founded on the principle of freedom of religion.
Oh and Pepsi I have no idea how the turkey is placed since I don't/can't cook.
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"....they are marketing thier products to be sold as Christmas presents"And Hanukkah presents and non-religious festivus presents and so on and so on.I really don't get it cause I don't get why somebody would be offended either way. however, I do understand that if I'm tryin' to sell 'em some load of crap I'm going to take the path of least resistance and say "happy holidays" to cover all my bases.
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But why is saying Merry Christmas to people so offensive? My whole life it has always been Christmas. Other countries celebrate Christmas in some form. Like I said, I don't even relate Christmas to Christ anymore. And I haven't for a long time. A majority of people are celebrating Christmas day, whether you believe in Christ or not. Quite a few of my friends including my boyfriend are atheists....they still say Christmas. They still celebrate Christmas and still give and recieve Christmas presents.I guess my point is, why can't I say Merry Christmas anymore? Why can't my kids have a Halloween/Thanksgiving/Christmas party in school anymore?