I was like them once.

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It drove my uncle crazy and led to his abuse of his "children"That's ridiculous.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14Weed got my best friends involved in gangs and my oldest brother/best friend killed.But this is my point exactly. You don't see gangs on the corner of streets dealing alcohol, do you? By putting cannabis supply into the hands of government regulated suppliers, you remove the criminal aspect, you remove the gangs.

> My father paid the price for doing both and ended up getting diabetes

Wow, such ignorant people these days. Smoking weed does not cause diabetes.

> Also, my dad gain weight during that time as well

If he gained a LOT of weight, then that is most likely the cause of his diabetes.

Oh man, why is it that everytime when I say something you always gotta pick on meIt has nothing to do with you. If someoen else had said I would've said the same thing.> I didn't say that smoking weed causes diabetesYou said your dad paid the price "for doing both" and ended up with diabetes.> Your poor dad was probably so high and dysfunctional from his drug and alcohol use that he didn't care about what he was doing to his body. Be strong for him, it's not fun being in his position.Wow Helms, nice try. He was probably too drunk if anything.

You are absolutely right. that is ridiculous. my cousins didn't get beat till near death and their scars and burns don't exist. it's all a figment of our imagination.if you agree with the notion that weed does not in FACT effect the brain then that ends the conversation right there.

my cousins didn't get beat till near death and their scars and burns don't exist. it's all a figment of our imagination.I didn't mean the beatings never happened, I meant that you/someone is saying the weed caused him to go crazy and beat his kids. THAT is ridiculous.

ok. how is that ridiculous?I can't find any other explanation as to why my father's oldest brother and best friend would go from being a sweet loving guy with beautiful children to an abusive father in a matter of weeks. And at the same time that he got involved with weed and the wrong people. Either that or he's been having some serious mood swings which I highly doubt unless guys PMS.

I can't find any other explanation as to why my father's oldest brother and best friend would go from being a sweet loving guy with beautiful children to an abusive father in a matter of weeksProbably the same reason that people just randomly kill their husbands/wives, or their kids. Remember that mother who drowned her 5 (I think it was 5) kids? Why did she do that? Who knows?And so just because you can't find another explanation (do you know EVERYTHING about this man, what he felt, though, etc.? Didn't think so), you blame it on weed. Nice.How fucked up would everything be if we all went by that principle?

thank you. that ends the conversation because what you say is that there must be some other non-existent reason than weed. and what you say goes right?I'm not in the mood to get into it and I'm not eager to argue as I reminisce about my oh-so-glorious family past. peace.

SS does have a strong point, weed does not make people go crazy. Scientific studies have dispelled this belief. You said that at the same time as starting to smoke weed, your uncle also fell in with a crowd of the wrong people. This seems far more likely an explanation, stress can induce enormous amounts of frustration which people are well known for taking out on the people closest to them.I am not belittling your family's situation or your feelings, but your conclusion that weed directly drove your uncle to beating his kids has absolutely no foundation in reality.

Don't bother, let her live in her own little world.Because she sees no other reason for her uncle going crazy, she blames the weed. Like I said earlier, what if we all thought like that?

To Shed so light, SS I am 15. I am young, so I doubt anyone is judging your opinion over your age. I'm not sure who said Bill almost lost his job over sex, but this is a misconception. He almost lost his job because he lied about it. Not because it happened.Yes, weed, has been shown to have a couple of health benefits as has alcohol, having a glass of wine with your supper before you go to bed can be good because it can relax you. But here's where it flops.The problem is, Teenagers in general cannot handle pressures of things, nor think logically, nor are very up into doing something. So for a teenager to drink, they drink to get fucked up and party, not to calm themselves so they can relax from their stressful life.They smoke weed, perhaps to calm themselves sometimes, but smoking weed can and most likely will lower ambition and if you don't have much to start with it'll lead with bad results.There's millions of kids out their having sex, plenty without regrets, just because only 5% of them might get aids or a chick pregnant, while 95% of that number are doing fine, does not justify that it's fine.If I kill 10000 people, but I let 100,000 live, is it ok to keep me out of jail because I let 10x the people I run into live, instead of kill them? No.Yes alcohol and weed can cure some problems, but it can cause allot more, it is best to find other alternatives

The problem with that is that weed doesnt cause mood swings. Now when your sober and ya smoke it, your suddenly stupid, slower, and happier not to mention relaxed and everything is funny. But nto ciolent, and not after your sober again, in an hour your a bit worn out and tired, thats it.
Maybe he got into other shit, maybe its something he did with his new friends, maybe... any number of things, but Id bet my left nut its not weed that led to him being pissy and abusive.

Now come on Helmsy, come to reality.do you honestly belive ther sint stoned brain surgeons and pilots? do you actually belive that jsut because tis illegal and because they get tested that there is not any of them doing it?I smoke on occasion myself, actually this week and through new years eve Ill be pretty much basted daily, for the better part of the day.I normally smoke a few times a year and on camping trips and what not but not daily. if you use it once a month your clean in a matter of days, i had alot of drug test and never been dirty because I never use it so often it builds up and takes 30 days to be gone from my system.Do you really think there istn pilots and surgeons that dont do it like I do and jsut make it on rare occasions instead of so often it affects performance and leaves them dirty for testing?we already have those people stoned. Id much rather know my pilot smoked some weed last night than that he was hung over.I cant advocate dong it while performing anything aside form standup comedy and sex, but to do it in your home and be sober in an hour and performing critical work the next day that doesnt bother me at all.It doesnt bother me if the guy thats doing my surgery or flying my plane or running a rig down the road loaded with explosives smoked a fatty last night, but its certainly another story if he did it before pulling off hte scales and running down teh road or before washing his hands and after Im prepped fr surgery.I dont think anyone would advocate that its OK to perform your job high, just that its not the demon that the goverment said tiw as and that people stil belive it to be and that to ues it on time off when you dont have to head to work is fine as long as your responsible about it.I wouldnt want you building a boat for me when your high, but I wopuldtn hve a problem with you smoking one between shifts when you had ample time to come down adn rest up before returning to work.

I dont think anyone would advocate that its OK to perform your job highI agree with that. Even if I only worked at Subway, going to work blazed is not always good. Sure, I knew I could get away with it after a few times and realizing my manager has no idea that I was high, but working is really hard when you're high sometimes. I get tired a lot faster but still have to work, since I'm at work and all that.

Sorry but this is a little off topic. Wouldn't eating a "Special Brownie" be healthier than smoking straight weed since there wouldn't be smoke to cloud your lungs?

Yes, it would be healthier.