Normally I wouldnt care, but I was on schedule that day! I had to be back in town in time to unload my truck at home and get my ass back 20 miles out of town by 5 to pick julie up! I was running on the most important time of all! the time julie gets off work and is ready to get the fuck out of there for a weekend! I was running on woman time! As a married man yourself, you know that WT trumps NDN time! because that time also leads to sexy time!or the lack there of!
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CP Time?
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Yeah what ever... I run on ish time. See ya at 10ish, or I'll visit Juneish. Everyone I know hates it, but they know. I even show up at court at ish. They tell me 9:30, I am there when I get there. Never missed my stuff on a docket because of ish. But I did mix up my ish once.
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No, no, no ,no... My wife has learned to live with NDN time. She finally figured out that her getting pissed wasn't going to get me there any earlier next time. Though she would never admit it, she runs on NDN time now too. One of the natives have corrupted yet another white woman. Hehehe. On a more serious note, different ethnic groups have different priorities, different was of approaching problems and different thought processes. To try and make all equal does a disservice to humanity as a whole. All groups bring certain strengths and weaknesses to the table. To try a pigeon hole us all as the same (which is the PC approach) is to deny the diversity that brings interest, new ideas and most importantly new pathways of thought in dealing with and approaching problems.The great strength of humanity is our variety, be that in our diversity of ethnic groups and their differing values or in the people within the ethnic groups and their differing values.
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Suppose me running always on julie time is just another instance showing im whipped, oh but what a wonderful woman to be whipped over!
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I'm just curious. Do you think that CP time does exist in some manner or other in any sizable portion of black culture? If so, I don't understand why it bothers you. I understand that it shouldn't be applied as a stereotype to all black people just as NDN time shouldn't be applied to all NDNs but no one, or not many at least, seem to know what CP time is outside the black community. So I'm not sure why its seen as a negative.
NDN time is seen as a reality, we're just never gonna get anywhere on time, except what we give importance to, like ceremonies, dances, shit like that... but even then. The rest, it'll wait and it always does. I guess why I don't see it as a negative is we (NDNs) embrace it as a part of us and spend a good amount of time laughing at ourselves as well as everybody else getting all twisted up and sprung by what the hands on a clock say. We just fail to comprehend why people get so stressed about the time and generally we laugh at those who do. We see NDN time as a positive not a negative, regardless what anybody else thinks.
come on... sprung, clock. That's gold baby, gold. :grin:
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If that non-black used it he/she may have or probably picked it up from other blacks. I can almost guarantee you that if I were to poll whites, they, for the most part, will have no idea wtf I'm talking about.
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Wikipedia article on 'Time discipline'
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No, it's not even like that. I honestly don't care. My friends use it all the time. But I've already come to the conclusion that they're ridiculously stupid. (I mean that in the most loving way possible). And yes I know it's true some of the time. I just don't like it when people use it against me like the jackbutt teachers at my school. I honestly don't know why they haven't been fired yet when they are blatantly sexist, racist, and perverted. My school is jacked up though. Like this teacher who came up to the table my friends and I were sitting at and we were getting ready to leave just as the bell rang. And she said "you people need to move. this is not CP Time". I don't know what kept me from talking back but she's been getting on my last nerves. I didn't even know she knew about that. But then again I shouldn't be surprised.
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my first thought was "central pacific time"... even though there's no such thing.Guess my mind is more scientific than racisitAre black people always late?do black people like being called coloured people or people of colour?Pejoratives only have as much power as you give them(sorry for taking so long to respond, I'm on unsupervised time)
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When I first saw the link I thought it was gonna be an article on how to be more disciplined with regard to punctuality. I was all set to tell ya what you could do with such an article. :grin:
I knew all that but had no idea it had a name or had been studied. It make sense that it would be. It's a real cultural trait, with logical reasons behind it.
The sad part is now just how closely time is regulated even for those who invented it and first put to use. I read an article once about the development of time and it proliferation. While I don't remember the dates I think I have the general time line fairly accurate. Even in the "developed" Anglo societies it wasn't till after the American civil war that most cities even had any form of clock and even that was in the larger, more populous locations. It wasn't until after the turn of the century that most people had a clock of any kind in their homes. It wasn't until after WWII (I think) that most men had any kind of person watch. I can't remember the time in history it took place but it wasn't until the mid part of the twentieth century that time, beyond the half hour, began to have any real meaning.
In contrast to the wiki link the development of time, it seems to me, has more to do with military action than with societal development, population, industry or anything else. It seems more that, as is so often the case, industry and society made use of a military tool, the close regulation and coordination of time.
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I think it was sooner than that, Scotty. Public clocks on churches (and later other large buildings) started in Europe in the Middle Ages, first with bells only, then with one hand, and later with two (though minutes were not measured accurately until the pendulum clock was invented in 1657). At this stage quarter-hour divisions were the smallest of much practical point. By the eighteenth century Europe was full of public clocks, though not many private ones.
The Industrial Revolution made times more significant. Whereas if you were a farmer you did things as they needed doing, if you worked in a factory you had to turn up for work at the time stipulated, and leave at the time stipulated. Then the coming of railways in the nineteenth century made a big difference, because timekeeping is crucial for running trains and for catching them, and minutes became important then. Clocks in different towns were made to agree with each other, and the number of private clocks increased.
By the end of the nineteenth century pocket watches, though still expensive, were becoming a lot more common. By the First World War most men of the middle classes had them - often the most expensive things they owned. My wife's grandfather was by no means a wealthy man, but he owned at least three pocket watches by the end of his life. Wrist watches were cheaper and became generally popular after the First World War. Most men would have owned one well before the Second World War.
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awsome info my friend but you missed one point... Sailing
sailors, and for that matter, anyone who wanted to descern accurate logetude needed to know the time. Spring fed clocks were originally a nautical invention because it was rather tricky to maintain a pendulum on rough seas.
when the first trans atlantic telegraph cable was laid, shortly after the civil war, the first signal sent was a time sync. That was also the first time that the longetude of the east coast of north America was accuratly defined
(why does this stuff stick in my head when i can't always remember my neighbour's name?)