Bait And Switch?

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It's dishonest and it's just a downright scam, I won't talk to large women online because I don't want to date one, tricking me into meeting one wouldn't ever change my mind.

So what is the general consensus here? Was this a deliberate scam or did the hot girl actually find me attractive and upon meeting me changed her mind? Because if she found me attractive at one point at least I wouldn't feel so crushed so I could at least confirm I am good looking. I want to know it's not my looks that are suffering and it's something that I can maybe change.

Also should I just forget about the girl?Should I even bother calling back the friend? Even if I don't want to do anything with her? Should I say I'm not interested?Should I call the hot girl again just to see what's up? She normally called me every night for the last week and we talked for an hour or two but yesterday was the only time she didn't call me and her friend called instead to try and ask me out.Oh yeah and I don't know if this really matters but when she first asked me if I liked her big friend she also said her friend wanted to call me and asked her permission, I said something like "i didn't mind" but never gave any indication that I liked her and that I wanted the call to be anything more than a quick friendly chat. When her friend called the first thing she said was "i heard i was SUPPOSED to call you". What the fuck was that, I never expected a call from her or particularly wanted one!

How is it a scam for a friend to hook up a friend?? You almost make it sound like it's a joke for a heavy-set girl to get with a guy. Scam? Seriously? How about wanting to get a friend someone to be with? How is that a scam?Maybe you should forget about both of them because it sounds like it would get nowhere but down. If I found out a guy felt this way about my friend it would be a huge turnoff whether he liked me or not. There's that level of respect that's completely absent in your situation.

It's a scam because she used herself as bait to lead me to the less attractive girl who I ordinarily would never talk to or associate myself with so I was put in a situation where I was pretty much forced to interact with her. If this was the case, I dunno.

wow... I honestly don't know what to say to that. That just comes off so wrong.

I don't see how it's wrong. I agree it is okay to set up a friend but it is NOT ok to pretend you're interested in a guy just to lead him to a friend who doesn't get much attention because of her looks on the premise that if I meet her in person I'd see her "on the inside". That's bullshit and for starters even in the minuscule chance I went for the large girl then everything would just be based on a lie, am I right?

That's bull? Oh.. I must be really really old-fashioned or just plain weird. I tend not to care what people think about me or what they say. And I don't judge people based off of what they look. It happens to me all the time so I know what it feels like and I don't think it's right to do that to others. I've been told many times after I become acquainted with others and more comfortable with them they end up telling me "I thought you were going to be an airhead/huge flirt/slutty/easy" or anything else along those lines.Honestly, I don't think she was trying to scam you but I don't know the girl so... it's all up to you.This reminds me of the movie Shallow Hal with Jack BlackI don't think being with someone that other's wouldn't normally find attractive is "a lie". There are people who are mentally or physically impaired. People who have strange mutations, weird skin conditions etc who are married and have children. I think these people have an admirable capability to look past it and see the person for who they are and not what they look like. That's what I try to do. Key word: try

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14I don't think being with someone that other's wouldn't normally find attractive is "a lie". You're missing the point here, it's a lie because I was under the impression I was to meet a single attractive girl and instead basically redirected into this trap. She was nothing but a decoy. Originally Posted By: JapanFan14People who have strange mutations, weird skin conditions etc who are married and have children. Gross, why would you multiply your genes if you had some serious defect that had a high chance of affecting subsequent generations?

wow...

wow.
that has to be the biggest load of shit Ive heard all month.
Just from what Im reading about you here.. I wouldnt date you. I see why the skinny blond wouldnt either. You lack self confidence. You buy expensive things to make yourself feel better, and more important then everyone else, meanwhile, on the inside you lack so much.
Hence why the "hot" skinny blond / brunette women wont date you.
They have SUPER confidence in them selfs. They want to date guys who spew confidence, not someone who has the illusion of confidence (ie- rolex, nice car, iPhone ect)
Ditch all the expensive crap, and work on yourself.

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Gross, why would you multiply your genes if you had some serious defect that had a high chance of affecting subsequent generations?
Its called love. People love each other, aside from what they look like on the outside, the love whats in the inside. You may be disgusted by their appearance, but the ones who love them, couldn't care less in the world.

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And seriously, enough about this "I know I'm good looking" thing. Post a pic or shut up.

Agreed.

This thread is interesting because on one side it makes me question how the human race is ever to survive if there are people with attitudes like white_lines around who (and don't tell me I'm wrong, because I'm obviously not) seem to only be in the game for bragging rights.But on the other hand, there are people here who are actual real people in the real world who still believe in the idea of love and decency.Good social study material here!

Ive skimmed through this thread and i think its ridiculous and kind of degrading. Im not going to jump into this conversation right now because its 2am and i have class tomorrow, but after reading this thread for 5 minutes i can easily see why "hot women" dont want to date you.As far as the putting down overweight women or people in general, i dont like it. Its fine if you are not attracted to them but leave it at that, the way you go into detail about how they make you sick and how you dont want to wake up next to their double chins makes you look like a piece of shit. I personally am not attracted to obese people, but women with meat on them are sexy as hell in my opinion. I love women who are "thick" and dont look like they've spent all month throwing up at cheer camp.These co called fat girls that are after you, are people to. They have feelings, it would be nice if you talked like they did. Also maybe your not as good looking as you think, just a thought.Word of advice, i consider myself good looking. Im not amazing, but im not horrible either. I have a nice body, 6 pack, defined arms, back, etc, sounds great right? My downfall is that im 5'4, not exactly the ideal height for most women. But ive never had trouble getting a girlfriend, good looking ones to. Ive been with my current girlfriend for a year and we want walk 50ft without her turning heads. I make up for my lack of height with self confidence and personality. Im funny, i make people laugh, im easy to talk to, understanding, and i project good self confidence, and you know what? I turn quite a few heads myself. Like others have said, stop buying the rolex's, the cars, etc, and work more on yourself. Treat women like human beings, not like trophies or objects, project some self confidence and stop being arrogant, and maybe you will have luck with the "hot ones"

Originally Posted By: white_linessame reason I have a fake rolex.If your gonna go the fake shit route don't get a fuckin' fake ass Rolex or, ..hell..., for that matter a real one. Fuckn' pimps where Rolexs. If your gonna fake it get something that has a little class and distinction. Find a fake Daniel Roth or, better yet, a Patek Philippe. If you wanna be fake, why the fuck try and fake bein' a fuckin' pimp. Go for class not flash.As for your problems with girls, it's fuckin' confidence. If you want the fuckin' hotties you gotta project an air of self assurance. Why the fuck do you think you see these hotties walkin' around with hideous fuckin' CHUDs. It's not flash and fake Rolexs it's how they present themselves. It's the, I don't need you... your missin' the shit if you don't get with me, attitude.

Ok I remembered the acronym I was looking for to describe this girl. She's a D.U.F.F.: Dumb Unwanted Fat Friend, every group of girls seems to have one. DUFF (Courtesy of Urban Dictionary):A unattractive female who is always seen with another female who is marginally more attractive. It is usually impossible to score with the hotter female without the duff receiving her fair share of the action. You can't tell it's fake, it's actually has real 24k gold in it, it's just not a genuine Rolex. I think it came from Africa or something.I'm really nice in person, maybe that's why these heavy girls go for me because they think maybe I'll just say "yes" to them or something. From now on I will act like an asshole, a complete prick, I will start crushing little kids sandcastles and stuff like that till I get noticed.

Like I said, I don't hate fat girls, I'll be friends with them but it seems like every fat girl I'm ever nice to thinks I am willing to bang them which is not ever going to happen again.I used to hook up with any girl who was willing to, now I realize I don't have to do that and I can pick and choose.Besides fat girls usually are paranoid and bitchy. I hooked up with one girl I met in Israel and she immediately thought I wanted to spend my life with her and I couldn't talk or flirt with any girl more attractive than her without her bitching at me, eventually she started kinda stalking me by texting me all the time so I just got a new pay-as-you-go phone and avoided her altogether.

Originally Posted By: white_linesYou can't tell it's fake, it's actually has real 24k gold in it, it's just not a genuine Rolex. I think it came from Africa or something.From now on I will act like an asshole, a complete prick, I will start crushing little kids sandcastles and stuff like that till I get noticed. I don't care if it's real or fake. A watch doesn't make a person!And just what sort of girls do you expect to attract by being a total dickface? Do you honestly believe that only "hot" girls are attracted to assholes?Do you not think that it's weird that you want to attract the sorts of girls that thing being a complete schlong is sexy?In reality, I think you're even more messed up than I am...and that is NOT good!

No my sample size has been like 3. That's just the best example. She went into my facebook when I was logged in and started checking out every girl who ever wrote on my wall, crazy bitch.

Like I said I've had issues before when if I didn't call a fattie every 15 minutes she'd think I didn't like her (which I prob. didn't)

whatever maybe i am a complete asshole, but i still will never settle for less than i believe i deserve

ill pay $10,000 to import a thin Ukrainian girl if i have to

Well it's good you have your beliefs...but from what I've heard from you, you do NOT deserve a nice girl - and I can pretty much guarantee you won't get one. You might get a "hot" slim girl, but you can be pretty well assured that she's gonna be a hollow bitch. Sorry to be harsh dude, but your attitude is gonna be your downfall here.Enjoy spending $10k.

You are absolutely right. I hope you get what you deserve.