Bait And Switch?

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Oh my god you f**k me off so much.You just don't get it do you. I'm starting to think you're just a little web troll making ridiculous statements to piss people off.  Quote: I have standards and I know I deserve better.You deserve?!What makes you think you deserve "better"? You are still talking about larger girls as if they are lesser people - or not even people at all. You are so ignorant.And what makes you think that "fat loser guys" are the only people who can date "fat" girls? Not everyone else is as mind-bogglingly shallow as you. Some regular, successful guys will happily go out with a larger girl, maybe because they have a personality, maybe because they are actually genuinely beautiful.I suppose you think that all fat guys are losers, right? I'm a fat guy. I used to think I was a loser until I met a girl who has made me a lot more confident in myself.And you know what? I'm actually pretty damned awesome when I think about it - and a lot of people will agree with me. I don't need to have a fake or real rolex to get people to like me.Yes, I drive a nice car - but that's because I enjoy driving it!I have a good degree, my own house, my own car, a pretty great job that pays well. But none of that makes me who I am.However, I have great friends, and I am in love with the most amazing girl I have ever met. How lucky am I? I almost feel like I don't deserve it...but you know what? I do.I've been through a hell of a lot in my life. Parents divorced when I was young, my grandmother died early because of MRSA. My mother died early because of stomach cancer, and my grandad died early of a brain tumour. My family has never been particularly wealthy and I have had self-confidence issues up until very recently. But throughout all of that I have learnt to be a decent human being. I excelled academically entirely off my own back, and that's something I am proud of.For the first time in my life, I actually like me - and it feels good. And now that I feel good about myself, maybe I can start to lose some weight too.I'm telling you right now as a piece of honest, genuine advice, that until you get a LOT more respect for other people, no-one is going to respect you.

Listen that's great but I don't need to hear your life story here. I'm not a troll this is just about the fact that I feel a girl used me just to find her less attractive friend a date. I'm not into being seen with a heavy girl. Sorry. I'm sure one day she'll find someone whether another fattie or anyone else but it isn't me.

Quote:I wasn't never rude or mean U sure? Read back in this thread and read what you wrote about her.. that is MEAN!

Quote: So what you're saying is to date a fat girl, then get her lots of liposuction and plastic surgery so she turns hot? Wow. WOW. Why don't you just buy one of those plastic blow up dolls?  Quote: There are plenty of fat loser guys for them to hook up withFunny how you associate fat with loser. I can change the way my body looks... You can't change how much of a loser you are.

You have me all wrong. If I come off as an asshole it's only because I'm sick of feeling like I have some kind of fat girl attractor on me because they come to me like moths to a florescent light.

hmmm... doesnt sound like it.

Originally Posted By: white_linesYou have me all wrong. If I come off as an asshole it's only because I'm sick of feeling like I have some kind of fat girl attractor on me because they come to me like moths to a florescent light. You definitely sound like a piece of shit, the way you talk your lucky if any women comes onto you. I dont feel like sitting here and getting into a fight but you really need to change the way you talk about people. Why cant you say ur not attracted to heavy women and leave it at that? Why do you feel the need to call them names, use all these terms, tell them to find fat loser guys, jesus christ dude you got some growing to do, and this is coming from an 18 year old.

Replying to last poster (mmafighter90), but really talking to everyone but white_lines here....This post is just going round in circles. He doesn't want advice - obvious by the fact that he's not taking any of it, or even just acknowledging it. He thinks he is "all that", because of the car, money and fake rolex (lol) that he posesses..... He knows the answer he wants to his "questions" (term used in the loosest possible way..). And he definately isn't going to find it here - because, on the whole, the people that populate this forum are kind, loving, generous and just genuinely nice people.One day, he will get what he deserves. Karma will see to that.

Im with ya.. Karmas a bitch.Its funny how people can associate fat with something so negative.. thats the reason I was depressed with myself for so long.. I had self image issues. People like you don't help this issue.There are alot of bigger people around in todays world! Its funny how so many bigger people i know are the kindest, friendliest people around. Most I know have beautiful faces.. AND REALLY BIG BOOBS!! (hmmm what a downfall!! NOT) if they wanted to be thin.. and tried.. i know they would be bombshells!

What karma do you speak of? I've been alone long enough and all I want is to have a girl I'm actually attracted to be attracted to me. You don't understand what it's like. Anytime I go to a party, club, bar, etc. this always happens, hot girl comes up to me and I think she's interested only until she tells me her friend wants to talk to me, the problem is the friend is usually EXTREMELY unattractive.Me, being nice of course, says OK but really wants nothing to do with the fat girl. If I say "no" I'm "shallow" but if I say yes then I eventually have to let this girl down by ignoring her completely and denying her existence. That's kind of how I dump these types of girls.

~ How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours. ~

maybe theres a reason youve been alone for so long. Time to lower your standards?

I have lowered my standards several times before and slept with "big girls" and I said I felt disgusted with myself like I was a male prostitute.

On the upside this girl I like does keep calling me a lot, mostly at 3 AM or 4 AM when she's drunk. Always crying about issues with her friends but I do my best to sound like I care. To be honest I don't know the situation so how am I supposed to care?

Quote: To be honest I don't know the situation so how am I supposed to care?You can care about the person. This may well be your main problem with girls - a lack of empathy. You may look good, but your poor skills in relating to people will be a big negative in others' eyes.

I do try to care but at the same time I don't want to act like an over-sensitive pussy. If I act the role of the counselor to her won't she then just think of me as a "nice friend" to talk to? I don't want her to think of me as some "sensitive guy" for her to talk to because then that's all I'll ever be. I'm trying to show her that I don't just want to talk or be friends by asking her to go out. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Originally Posted By: Amz

Replying to last poster (mmafighter90), but really talking to everyone but white_lines here....

This post is just going round in circles. He doesn't want advice - obvious by the fact that he's not taking any of it, or even just acknowledging it. He thinks he is "all that", because of the car, money and fake rolex (lol) that he posesses.....

He knows the answer he wants to his "questions" (term used in the loosest possible way..). And he definately isn't going to find it here - because, on the whole, the people that populate this forum are kind, loving, generous and just genuinely nice people.

One day, he will get what he deserves. Karma will see to that.

The questions I had that are still unanswered were:

1. Is this a bait and switch scheme?

2. Why am I a magnet for unattractive girls? I hardly ever have a hot girl actually make a move on me, it's always a bigger girl and then when I act nice back or talk to them they assume I want to be with them.

3. How can I avoid this?

4. How can I get the hotter girl to like me and the unattractive friend to stop pursuing me?

Oh yeah and I'm an 8.3 on hotornot.com out of something like 200 votes and only one of them was me so I know I'm goof-looking.

I think every1 is being a little HARSH on this guy...sure he has physical standards but that DOES NOT make him shallow...He seams to be a very nice guy who considers other peoples feelings, if he was truely a jerk he would be mean to all the girls he doesn't find attractive.I think every1 has their preferences....I know for DAMN sure i can NEVER EVER date a chick i do not find attractive. SOry but its just my "PERSONAL PREFERENCE" ...is that so wrong?Now that doesnt mean that looks are everything...if a hot girl acted like a complete bitch then fuck her. I think people should do a physical screening of girls in the beginning, because its no fun to be with some1 your not physically attracted to, but after the initial screening process, then you should go into the personality screening because that also a very important part.I say for me its 30% looks and 70% personality. So even if a girl has a full 70% good personality...if her looks are 0...then I'm sorry but it just can never work. I do not want to settle for only 70%. I'm not conceited or shallow I'm just really honest, why waste your time with some1 your not attracted to.Some guys like big girls, some like skinny girls. Some guys like ugly girls (beauty is in the eye of the beholder), some like pretty girls. Stay true to yourself, and go after the type u really like, don't waste your time

But does this mean that if a girl is smoking hot and her physical equals to a complete 30%, but her personality is a 40% would i date her? HELL NO , that's only 70%, and quite frankly 70% isn't enough. EVERY1 should never settle for less then they want, at least 90%. Unless of course u just want to hook up, thats a completely different story, hooking up just go 100% on looks unless u want to wake up the next morning, and regret it for the rest of your life...(personal experience). But for a relationship, personality 70%, physical 30%.DON'T lower your standards to raise your average when it comes to relationships