Avatar (there had to be athread about it)

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So much hype. So much dazzle. So much anticipation and build up that we need to clear all that away and ask the simple question: Is it a good movie?And the answer is OH FUCK YES!!!!James Cameron has made an absolutely awesome movie (something that is very rare these days). I enjoyed it so much, I honestly didn't want it to end! 160 minutes wasn't enough for me!The visuals are amazing! Literally stunning. I am so glad that this is the first movie that I decided to see in 3D. There was a scene with small insects buzzing around and people were itching and swatting because it seemed so real and immersive. The animation was so believable that you just stop thinking about it and just enjoy it. The Pandorans seemed so surreal yet so realistic, it was amazing!The story is simple, yes, but it is told so beautifully. You really do fall in love with the people (especially the half-naked blue ones). Zoe Saldana's character was fantastic, definitely my favourite character in the whole movie.And thats it. I just got back about 20 minutes ago and had to vent that.

thanks BobI plan on seeing it over the holidays with my son and my g/f. The only mixed reviews I've heard are on the simplicity of the story line.

I actually think that a more complicated storyline would have taken away from the movie.

I've heard nothing but amazing things about the movie so far. I plan on seeing it over the holiday weekend. I am overly excited about seeing it

So far I only know that it's about a bunch of half-naked blue people. I wanna see it for the visual experience but what the hell is it about?

I'm old remember. I don't know about all these new fangaled folks.

Finally seen the movie over the weekend and it was amazing! Absolute best movie I have seen in a very long time. Though, like you said, the storyline is simple but it was beautiful done and really pulls you in. I didn't want the movie to end; it was just that good.I plan on seeing it at least one more time in the theater Oh and yes seeing the movie in 3D is the way to go

we made it out last night to see it. We got stuck going to the late show because the rest were sold out. I had some concern that starting a 2+ hour movie at nearly 11pm may result in my lad sleeping though some of the show... NOT A BLOODY CHANCE LOLThe reviews are all accurate so I'll start with the criticism. I think the core plot goes a bit beyond simple, into the realm of distractingly heavy handed. However, the story elements managed to encase the plot in a remarkably beautiful world. It's visually stunning and technically brilliant.2 thumbs up

Originally Posted By: bobaliciousI actually think that a more complicated storyline would have taken away from the movie. I agree. One big mistake that movies are making these days is creating a very complicated and confusing storyline, in my opinion. I think a lot of sequels suffer from this especially. Pirates of the Caribbean is a perfect example. The first one was great, and the story was fairly simple. but the second and third ones had very complicated and confusing plots, and I thought that those movies were terrible.

Simply amazing. Not the best 3d movie I have seen though.. but still good!!! Story line was amazing. :smile:

Definetly recommend seeing it!!!

Just saw it today with the family and I really did love it. Neytiri sounds like my aunt it's scary. And her mother sounds like chia haha. It was like watching a really cool version of the history channel. The treatment of indigenous people in Africa and America is pretty similar to the Na'vi.

Yeah, it was definitely worth waiting the 12 years.

Originally Posted By: A V Originally Posted By: bobaliciousI actually think that a more complicated storyline would have taken away from the movie. I agree. One big mistake that movies are making these days is creating a very complicated and confusing storylineyet, I find a typically dumbed down, Hollywood plot to be absolutely insulting. Like I said about Avatar, the heavy handed plot elements were distracting. The army guy, the corporate guy, the science girl... all totally flat characters. I don't know about you but I think I would have understood the plot even if the characters had a bit more natural human duality.Don't get me wrong, I loved it. But I cannot defend the lack of originality or depth in the story.

Originally Posted By: unsupervised Originally Posted By: A V Originally Posted By: bobaliciousI actually think that a more complicated storyline would have taken away from the movie. I agree. One big mistake that movies are making these days is creating a very complicated and confusing storylineyet, I find a typically dumbed down, Hollywood plot to be absolutely insulting. Like I said about Avatar, the heavy handed plot elements were distracting. The army guy, the corporate guy, the science girl... all totally flat characters. I don't know about you but I think I would have understood the plot even if the characters had a bit more natural human duality.Don't get me wrong, I loved it. But I cannot defend the lack of originality or depth in the story. I agree that "dumbed down" movies can be insulting. But I don't necessarily agree that a simple story means a dumbed down movie. There can still be a simple overall story that still goes very in depth into things like the theme or characters. I actually find that some of the movies with an overly complicated plotline are "dumbed down" or insulting to one's intelligence. A lot of these movies just try to throw everything that they can into one movie, with all these plots and sub-plots, and countless twists and turns. And then, of course, other movies just have explosions and destruction galore with no real story (2012).

there are the Avant-garde art films that just toss weird shit at you, under the suggestion that you're not smart enough to understand.
But think of something recent like State of Play. Intrigue, suspense and a twisty-turny story. Or the movies of Guy Richie with their several overlapping stories and quirky characters. I'm not talking about anything overly deep or unaccessible here. Just a bit of clever writing.
Though I need to look up some definite references to this, I've heard a few times that the original Avatar screenplay included some deeper subplot and political commentary that was abandoned in favor of more flashy stuff.

Of course if you want something totally mindless but still damn good fun from start to end, I recommend Shoot em Up. The movie is positively ridiculous and never pretends not to be... and it's a hell of a good time! :grin:

Saw Avatar it was good, visually stunning anyway. I thought the storyline was lifted almost verbatim from Dances With Wolves. Beyond here may be a spoiler so quit reading if ya don't want to know. I went to see it with my wife and my cousin. My cousin and I, as NDNs, both walked out of the theater depressed. We both know there's no stopping whitey when there's valuable resources at stake. He'll be back in 13 years to take what he wants. The big blue guys will be rounded up and herded onto the least desirable part of the planet. There will be developments all over the floating mountains with condos going for ten million each... more if your next to a waterfall. Big game guilds will be selling the ultimate safari experience to big game hunters, until all the dangerous animals are cleared out for corporate lumber ventures. The people of plains will have to be reined in so as not to get in the way of farm expansion to feed the ever growing earthly population. And finally the people of the sea board will be out fished and face near starvation as commercial fishing strips populations of edible fish that they then sell back on earth for premium. Pandora in three or four generations will be criss crossed with roads and the atmosphere will be altered to better suit human habitation. Think about it the natives where getting there asses handed to them when all they could muster was around 2000 warriors until E'wa stepped up and sent a bunch of animals to help them out. And we know a few rogue animals and some hapless natives with bows and arrows are just kiddy play for whitey. He'll be back and he'll be pissed and killing off three-quarters of population with germ warfare just to soften 'em up. My cous' and I both found it depressing and don't care to see it again. All this shit has already happened many places on earth and is still happening to people of the amazon and south and central America and many other aboriginal places the world over but I imagine we as a society will have more sympathy for these fictional blue guy than we will for real people that inhabit our world who are facing the same challenges.Long and short, if your a native... don't expect to come out of theater feeling good.I did love Up In The Air, would love to see it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JXUoWeZ7Q Skip to 3:40... it was ALL HER! I've decided that Zoe Saldana and I are going to get married (sorry Bumblebee...). You guys are all invited to the wedding. By the way... Na'vi sex is beautiful. I swear all he did was pick her up. That whole scene had me like O_O "damn papi... be gentle, eiya le caliente!" XD And the scenery made it all the more... ahmayzeeng..

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14And the scenery made it all the more... ahmayzeeng.. I loved the scenery so much in the movie. So much so that I actually got the software they used. Its called Vue.

Well get ready, when the dvd is released it's going to include an extended sex scene... or so I heard this morning.

I hope it's not too extended, the poor guy already has blue balls

Originally Posted By: OldFolksWell get ready, when the dvd is released it's going to include an extended sex scene... or so I heard this morning. It figures...I'm surprised it wasn't included in the cinema release.But I agree with you that it reminded me VERY much of Dances with Wolves...all except the very ending. But that's the happy-ending of a fairy-tale (Avatar) contrasted with cold reality (Dances with Wolves). In fact, the tribal leader in Avatar is portrayed by the same full-blooded Cherokee that appeared in Dances with Wolves, and who also played "Magua" in "Last of the Mohicans"...can't remember his name off hand.I don't understand, though, what all the religious hype was about. While I see the natives hold a reverence for their planet, it's not really a God...it's a scientifically explainable entity (with a lot of mystery involved). That's what the audience is lead to believe, I think. But the symbiosis is much more direct (and therefor apparent) than what we have in our world. I think the movie makes (or tries to) much more of an environmental statement than a religious one.BTW, I understand that there WILL be a sequal.