Quote:BOSTON (Reuters) – Maine's Senate passed a bill on Thursday that could make the northeastern U.S. state the fifth in the country to allow gay marriage, but the lower chamber and governor have yet to approve it.The legislation, which will go to a vote in the state House of Representatives next week, seeks to redefine marriage as the legal union of two people rather than between a man and a women. It passed the Senate by a 20-15 margin.Maine Governor John Baldacci once opposed gay marriage, but said earlier in April he is keeping an open mind on the issue.Approval in the Democratic-controlled Senate of the rural state of 1.3 million people underlines a concerted push for same-sex marriage recognition in New England's six states by gay and lesbian advocates.Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, a group of lawyers who led the legal fight for same-sex marriage in Massachusetts and Connecticut, has set a target of bringing same-sex marriage to all New England states by 2012.In November, Connecticut became the second state to allow legal same-sex weddings after neighboring Massachusetts' top court ruled in 2003 that a ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional, paving the way for the first same-sex marriages in the United States the following year.In a single week in April, Iowa and Vermont also legalized same sex marriage. And on Wednesday, New Hampshire's state Senate approved a gay marriage bill, about a month after its House approved it. The bill needs New Hampshire Governor John Lynch's signature to become law."With progress in New Hampshire and a win in Vermont, winning in Maine could put us only one state away from our goal," Lee Swislow, executive director of Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, said in a statement.Gay marriage legislation has yet to advance in Rhode Island.Some economists say carving out an economic niche for gay and lesbian weddings -- and the spending that comes with them -- makes sense at a time same-sex marriage has stalled in California and a recession is deepening. Keeps on rollin rollin rollin!!
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Maine Senate Passes Same-sex Marriage Bill
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Cool! Add life as we know it hasn't come to a stop and marriages between men and women haven't all blown up... or whatever the hell is suppose to happen when gay people marry.
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Originally Posted By: OldFolks
Cool! Add life as we know it hasn't come to a stop and marriages between men and women haven't all blown up... or whatever the hell is suppose to happen when gay people marry.
I know crazy right?? :scream_cat: hehehe
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Originally Posted By: OldFolksCool! Add life as we know it hasn't come to a stop and marriages between men and women haven't all blown up... or whatever the hell is suppose to happen when gay people marry. It's not the fact...it's the message it sends. We'll see if you can make the same claim 100 years from now...social changes often take a long time to reveal their effects on the populace. Some of us care about the future of this nation. Not all change is for the better.
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Originally Posted By: thorIt's not the fact...it's the message it sends.What? The message of equality and "fairness" under the laws of the Nation? I dunno.. sounds like a positive step forward for the future.If you cared about the future of this Nation you would want to end prejudice and segregation. You'd want people to be treated equally instead of second-class citizens for something that is none of your business and does not directly affect you. There comes a point in life Thor when you need to grow and keep your nose out of other peoples business. Those of us that are gay its none of your business, who we love is none of your business, who we marry is none of your business, and who we raise our children with is none of your business. Mind your own life and live your life as you feel God would wish, but don’t stick your nose into other peoples live and try and force YOUR Christian ideals on to other people.
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Awesome. Governor Lynch is a cool guy, he better pass it in NH.
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I'm curious, what concrete things do you think gay marriage is going to cause.
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well, if dudes can marry dudes just to be "fair", why can't a dude marry his dog, sister, father, car, tractor, hand... I mean love is love and fair is fair!it's a slippery slope (I want to marry a slippery slope)
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God I hate that arguement "Well if gays can marry what stops people from marrying their dog!!". Well for one animals cannot sign their name to any legal document or even speak any form of consent. And secondaly we are talking about two humans when it comes to the GLBT community, they are the same species... lol.
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oh sure, and I suppose you'll want blacks and whites to marry next!
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Originally Posted By: unsupervised
oh sure, and I suppose you'll want blacks and whites to marry next!
Of Course Not!! We can't have that! The sky would fall and the pits of hell would open below us! :scream_cat:
JK!!!! :grin:
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Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfIf you cared about the future of this Nation you would want to end prejudice and segregation. You'd want people to be treated equally instead of second-class citizens for something that is none of your business and does not directly affect you. It effects me indirectly, and so is my business. If you don't like that, tough.Is a serial murderer a second-class citizen because he isn't allowed to go around killing people? Extreme example, but the very same concept. Just because you claim "victim" status does not make you one.
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Originally Posted By: thorIs a serial murderer a second-class citizen because he isn't allowed to go around killing people? Extreme example, but the very same concept. Sorry not even close to the came concept.There are tons of things that might affect me indirectly, but I don't go around on my high horse trying to spread scare tactics and ranting like a lunatic. What you need to focus on are things that are affecting you directly in YOUR personal life and leave everyone elses direct personal life alone. Who are you to dictate who someone marries? What gives you or anyone else the authority? Religiously, last I checked you are not God. Let HIM decide in the end whats right and wrong in the mean time stop the hate. Don't like that? Tough...
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serial killer's rights?is that really the best you can do?just admit defeat
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Originally Posted By: Rad"whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should." Perhaps you are familiar with the phrase: It is always darkest before the dawn.
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Originally Posted By: thorIs a serial murderer a second-class citizen because he isn't allowed to go around killing people? Extreme example, but the very same concept. Just because you claim "victim" status does not make you one. So based on your argument, nearly every right can be taken away from someone. So if I was to tell you that you are not allowed to practise christianity, but everyone of every other faith can practise their religions, you would not see yourself as being discriminated against unfairly?
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Your right!equal rights for those fags, such a shame to give them that, we all know they belong on a island away from all of us god fearing good christians!shoulda never freed those slaves either! look what that got us!Our nation is so grand! why must me muck it up by letting people live and not be shit on by the bible packing population?
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So who's doing the pushing?
...told ya so:
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The Homosexual Agenda in our schools..._School website promotes homosexual agenda
Pete Chagnon - OneNewsNow - 5/4/2009 7:00:00 AMA California school district is coming under fire for a homosexual website being funded with taxpayer dollars.
The San Francisco Unified School district has launched a "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and questioning" (LGBTQ) website for students in order to create a "safe space for all students" and promote activities both in the classroom and outside. Carrying the inviting web address "HealthierSF.org," the website includes links promoting Gay Pride Celebration Month, Day of Silence, and Gay/Straight Alliance clubs.
Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute, says the school district is excluding parents on this issue.
"What about parents? Can parents opt [their child] out?" she asks. "And the explanation that they give is that, no, they can't opt out. [They say they] are under no obligation to even let them know because this is not sex education -- and that's all the law requires [them] to do."
England says children as young as kindergarten in the Golden State are exposed to the LGBTQ agenda through the website. "And that [includes] transgender policy that allows boys, as young as kindergarten, to go into girls' restrooms [or to] play on girls' sports teams if they perceive themselves to be girls," she explains.
"And [it includes] curriculum -- that is as young as kindergarten -- that explains homophobia, explains the word 'gay,'" England adds. The vocabulary link at the website also defines terms such as "bisexual," "gender identity" ("Everyone has a gender identity," it says), and "transgender."
The Institute spokeswoman notes the site also includes curriculum to go along with pro-homosexual children's books such as And Tango Makes Three and King & King. "They are doing a full-out curriculum on gay and lesbian issues for all grades," she laments. The website also plans to eventually include an elementary school lesson called "The Harvey Milk Story."
England says discussions of such matters belong at home and do not need to be led by teachers who label students as "homophobic" if they disagree with the lifestyle." _
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Quote:England says discussions of such matters belong at home and if a poor, curious, confused and possibly gay child is stuck with parents like, let's say, YOU... the kid is fucked
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A co-worker brought in one of these "Gay Agenda" books to take to her church so they could destroy it. The ones I've seen are no more lurid than The Three Bears, theres just two mommies or two daddies with the implied message that it's okay, so big deal. It seems it's the mind of the good parents where the dirty pictures get filled in. Bumpin uglies, tossin salad, smokin poles, double ended dildos, stap-ons, lube and so on. There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that people are different and lead different lives and that it doesn't make them bad people. If someone has a problem with that message than it starts to look like all they're after is not wanting the school to countermand their message of hate, superiority and discrimination. That I have a problem with.