Obama is doing a very good job!

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When Hanity and the rest of the conservative media becomes this upset over mustard, it only shows that the bigger issues are well in hand.For shit sakes, are these guys really that stupid? More importantly, do they really think Americans are that stupid to care about mustard?Obama asked for spicy mustard on his burger, like Dijon. He didn't even ask specifically for dijon!whats wrong with good old fasioned American ketchup? I dunno, but are you REALLY that proud of this childish, sweet goo?Considering the majority of American cusine is adapted from other countries,I don't think Hanity should be throwing stones in a glass house. I'd like to see his fridge. Hope theres non of that French shit in there i.e. MayoWhy didn't Hanity get upset about the request for Cheddar?

unfortunatly, he's not the only one making a fuss about this
I call it "Mustardgate" :grin:

I could care less what the man eats on his cheeseburger. He likes what he likes. It's the entire trip to the burger joint that I have trouble with. Do they not have anything better to do than to create these transparent photo ops, designed to make people cream themselves and say "Ooohh...look...he's just a regular guy eating a cheeseburger!" Please. It takes a glazed over idiot to miss what he was doing. And buying food for the press...WTF?!? Does anyone care about journalistic ethics anymore.I think between this incident and the Airforce One photo op incidedent, it's become clear that we have a president way too motivated by public image.Of course you all agree with me...right?

yes, I agree. Any politician tha panders to the media is at fault, as is the media for lapping it up.American TVBritish tabloidsetc etcIt's becomming a bit stupid.I would say that the trip to the burger joint was a non-story. The mustard is a subplot to the non-story. The first story is laughable, the second is just plain pathetic.Unfortunatly, no one is immune to the political photo ops. Every year, we see the premier of Albeta flipping pancakes at the opening of the Calgary Stampede. Last week we had MPs eating pulled pork sandwiches on parlement hill to demonstrate that pork is safe to eat and doesn't cause the flu.Remember all those clips of Geaorge W clearing brush on his ranch just like a regular American? Do you own a ranch?

"I'd like to see his fridge. Hope theres non of that French shit in there i.e. Mayo"damn! I thought ya meant any of this shit! or maybe just the brand frenchs I have a few of those in my fridge, and some others, and some fucking honey mustard too!

Your living in a time long gone by. All the world is a photo-op. Unfortunately that's the form of communication that reaches the most people. Very few are going to sit down and read a substantive article or much less an in depth review of policy.

People like their communication simple and seemingly straight forward, that's why they felt Georgy was man they could have a beer with.

buying food for the press...errrr yeah thats not good.The photo ops of AF1 is shit that was done with out his knowledge, so I can not hold that against him.The only thing I currently have against him, is the way he dismissed any discussion of the legalization or atleast a debate on the merits of it, as a joke in the web cast that was set up to answer questions posed by the people of the US that submitted them through the web site asking for questions for Obama.The bullshit over legalization even if only for medical use and not recreation has gone on far to long. I was 8 years old when I first heard of its merits in treating chemo and cancer patients, that was fucking 1979 and my grandma was fighting breast cancer and sick as fuck from chemo. If we knew then that it had been shown to help, why in the fuck, 30 years later has there still been no further advancement of it?Do not quote to me bullshit studies by the US government, looking outside our borders there is more than ample evidence in case studies that its good. Never a single death from overdose, safer than booze, tons of uses and tons of shit it aids in, even aiding in treating the side effects of proven treatments, not to mention diverseness in fuels and materials.The prohibition of booze...Remember all the bootlegging bullshit that happened? remember the power that came to the mob? all because its illegal, you ever hear about any deaths or violence over the sale of booze since it became legal again?but look at the violence and money wasted fighting weed, billions a year, not to mention it could be taxed and sold and made harder for children to get it if it were legal. Any kid in any town can currently head over to a friendly fuck face deal (not hard to find them) and get what they want, much harder with it in stores and taxed and grown and sold to legal age people much like alcohol.The lessons of the past are never heeded.You can go look at NORML and LEAP (LEAP is law enforcement against prohibition) for countless studies and cases from around the world. In the US you are almost guaranteed a grant to study any harmful effects but denied time and again to study benefits of it. Independent studies continue to show the harm is nearly nil. and even when harm can be show its in a very small percentage of people, not in all users.Its all bullshit, the fact that he dismissed it all as a joke... THat pissed me right the fuck off.I however have written congress, signed dozens of petitions, contacted my representatives and made my feelings known.If anyone that supported it did the same, this backwards sliding bullshit would be over.you lazy pig fuckers that toke and use and do not do the same... you are the fuckers keeping us back.Outside of this instance, Im still pretty fucking pleased with what the man I voted for has accomplished and what he is trying to accomplish and the goals outlined.edit:Fuck I forgot a very very good site that is trying to debunk much of the bullshit on MJ and its uses and slowley writing about the myths associated with it: Show me the facts. And if your too stupid to read, or just to lazy, how about a potumentary? It leaves a lot out, but makes it easy for any idiot to follow along and does give alot of valid info, about as much as any stoner can concentrate on at a single sitting, and really if you watch this movie sober, well it gets pretty boring and not very funny: Totally Baked I also recommend checking out super high me, another potumentary, but I do not have any resources for watching it legally online for free.

Originally Posted By: unsupervisedIt's becomming a bit stupid.Becomming? I'd say it's already been more than just a bit stupid...and for a long time now. As is just about everything the media pukes out these days.

YES! as opposed to all the quality shit that was wretched upon our shoes during the high life of Dubya eh?Recall what This was written about and when?I know its too good for you thor, that dirty filthy nasty semi-punk rock so Ill provide you the lyrics as well so you can read it and spout off on it:Don't wanna be an American idiotDon't want a nation under the new mediaAnd can you hear the sound of hysteria?The subliminal mind fuck AmericaWelcome to a new kind of tensionAll across the alien nationWhere everything isn't meant to be okayTelevision dreams of tomorrowWe're not the ones who're meant to followFor that's enough to argueWell maybe I'm the faggot AmericaI'm not a part of a redneck agendaNow everybody do the propagandaAnd sing along to the age of paranoiaWelcome to a new kind of tensionAll across the alien nationWhere everything isn't meant to be okayTelevision dreams of tomorrowWe're not the ones who're meant to followFor that's enough to argueDon't want to be an American idiotOne nation controlled by the mediaInformation age of hysteriaIt's going out to idiot AmericaWelcome to a new kind of tensionAll across the alien nationWhere everything isn't meant to be okayTelevision dreams of tomorrowWe're not the ones who're meant to followFor that's enough to argue

you know the war on drugs and the war on terrorists are nothing more than war on truth.Thor, can I presume that you are agreeing with me that right and left wing media coverage of left and right wing politics are equally to blame for the bullshit?

The war on terror? do you mean WMD's? or liberating Iraq? or could it be your talking about how Iraq is a war against terrorist?Its all bullshit, a war declared with no real clear enemy, a war with no borders, a war we can take anyplace any time we want all we have to do is say they are terrorists? Yeah the war on terror, yet another crock of shit, the sme as that war on drugs.

so how's that war on drugs working out? are ya winning?

No, but Im fighting.I chose the side of common sense and science, i stood up to be counted among the soldiers, I will win, or Ill die and someone else down the road will win. People can not remain blind and stupid for ever.We should be clear that while some people want any and all drugs legalized, Im against that, some shit should be illegal. Pot however sure is fuck is not one of those items.

you should look up Portugal's sucess with drugs but let's not get distracted from the most important substance being abused in America today... MUSTARD

and that I shall, my best model currently is the Netherlands success with drugs. Perfect? no, but a fuck load better than the United States current policies.Nothing negative? not jack shit?I wonder if its cheaper to fly and stay in Portugal or in Holland?the bad shit should be illegal, however unless your cooking it or producing it or selling it to school children, the penalties should be more along hte lines of treatment than punishment. that I agree with, but just legalization?I may change my mind after more search and study and thought, but at this point, Id still be inclined to think that they are better left off the table than thrown on top of it.As to the mustard debate, does this mean that since I eat alot of chinese food Im a fucking communist?

ever occur to anyone that the reason they make a big deal about mustard or cigarettes is to make you think that he is doing so well that this is all they can report on that is negative?

duh

"People can not remain blind and stupid for ever."I find your faith in mankind a bit optimistic.

Originally Posted By: OldFolks>>>"People can not remain blind and stupid for ever."I find your faith in mankind a bit optimistic. I agree there. History shows people make the same stupid mistakes over and over and over again.

Good call. Never thought of it like that