Think that the MPAA and RIAA are seriously messed up in the head? The MPAA just went in front of the copyright office, and said that (for educational purposes) it's not okay for teachers to rip DVD's, but you can tape it, i.e. with a camcorder, and show that? And the fact that you can rip CD's for personal backup, but but have to resort to illegal methods/is illegal to do so with DVD's? The majority of people who rip CD's, aren't pirates, they just want the backup, or on their Zune, you know? So is true with me, anyway. Sometimes, I really wonder about these associations......They sound like total retards.....how stupid.. Dur d'dur! Buzz Out Loud If you want to hear more....around 25mins in...episode 970...Viva Open Source! And Zune software ftw....