Originally Posted By: IneligibleSince the Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, that's not surprising. But the concept is certainly there - see for example Romans 14. Now you're wrong on two counts. First, no, it's not in the Bible. Go take a look for yourself. Second, you skipped Aramaic.
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An honest question.
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um, no one is disputing that the word is not in the bible.Maybe you could explain to us what message you derive from Romans 14.
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Originally Posted By: unsupervisedum, no one is disputing that the word is not in the bible.Maybe you could explain to us what message you derive from Romans 14. Perhaps you could be a little more specific. There are a lot of verses in Romans 14.
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Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: unsupervisedum, no one is disputing that the word is not in the bible.Maybe you could explain to us what message you derive from Romans 14. Perhaps you could be a little more specific. There are a lot of verses in Romans 14. I like Romans 14: 13-18, New International Version.
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Originally Posted By: bobalicious Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: unsupervisedum, no one is disputing that the word is not in the bible.Maybe you could explain to us what message you derive from Romans 14. Perhaps you could be a little more specific. There are a lot of verses in Romans 14. I like Romans 14: 13-18, New International Version. It's nice...but speaks nothing about being tolerant of anybody or any thing. It DOES speak regarding judgement...and you would have to know the specifics behind the church at Rome (which you obviously don't) in order to understand the full context. The letter was intended for the church at Rome where there existed many different Christians...some who believed a little differently than others. This is what is being referred to here. We (Christians) are commanded elsewhere (Christ speaking):John.7[23] If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?[24] Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.We are, indeed, to judge things carefully...and God has already judged the homosexual act. Tolerance is not an option. The members of the church at Rome were picking nits with each other...not commiting acts God previously decreed to be an abomination (like the homosexual act).Romans 14 also speaks of not placing stumbling blocks in the way of another. And to sit and say nothing when a brother is about to stumble is just as bad as causing them to do so. We are to remind others of that which God has already spoken of. This is not judgement...this is reminding.
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As a man of faith, you are exemplary.As a theologian, you are awfulsome of the bible is figurative bla blasome of the bible is factual bla blaand only you know which is which.Therefore, no one can argue against you yet you need never prove your argument.Scholars have discussed and debated the meanings of the bible since day one. You should let them know that they are wasting their time now that you're here.
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For both you and unsup, I don't know anything that you two can't find out for yourselves if you put a little effort into it. Thing is, you're going to have to look in places you aren't used to looking. You won't find what you're looking for on athiest/anti-Christian sites because they're not interested in specifics of the Bible...they're just interested in bashing it. Most folks aren't all that interested in understanding well what it is they're bashing.
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Originally Posted By: RadWhat YOU read does NOT make you smarter than what I read. No...but it does make me smarter in what you refuse to read.
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Originally Posted By: thor
For both you and unsup, I don't know anything that you two can't find out for yourselves if you put a little effort into it. Thing is, you're going to have to look in places you aren't used to looking. You won't find what you're looking for on athiest/anti-Christian sites because they're not interested in specifics of the Bible...they're just interested in bashing it. Most folks aren't all that interested in understanding well what it is they're bashing.
hey Chuckles, I've been thinking of these things since before the web
Maybe you should try to formulate your own opinion instead of regurgitating American right wing white rhetoric.
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Originally Posted By: Rad Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: RadWhat YOU read does NOT make you smarter than what I read. No...but it does make me smarter in what you refuse to read. I disagree.Thinking one understands does not mean one does understand.You don't understand it if you don't read it. That's not an assumption...that's a certainty.
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Originally Posted By: thorYou don't understand it if you don't read it. That's not an assumption...that's a certainty. Just on the topic of all this reading and understanding the Bible. I purchased a piece of software a few weeks ago that you may find interesting. BibleWorksIts great, this is their description of it.BibleWorks 8 is the premier original languages Bible software program for Biblical exegesis and research. It comes with Greek, Hebrew, and Septuagint Bibles for your computer, as well as translations in English, German, Spanish, Chinese, Korean, and more! For over sixteen years, BibleWorks has satisfied Bible software users around the world.You should check it out.
