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Originally Posted By: bobalicious Originally Posted By: thorIt is...but is really much closer to center than any of the other networks. Its much closer to your centre, but not really to any logical centre.It has to do with historical positions on issues and how they have changed over the years...not some logical calculation of any sort. This is where being around for awhile has an advantage; trends can be witnessed first-hand. Some of the socialistic stunts the liberals are pulling these days would have likely landed them in jail 40/50 years ago. But now we have some of the "news" outlets pushing it as centrist, with a near-centrist view being touted as radically conservative. Some folks honestly don't know any better, though.

>>>It has to do with historical positions on issues and how they have changed over the years...not some logical calculation of any sort. This is where being around for awhile has an advantage; trends can be witnessed first-hand. Some of the socialistic stunts the liberals are pulling these days would have likely landed them in jail 40/50 years ago.

Couldn't the same thing be said about letting them Negroes serve in an integrated military or go to integrated schools or vote or marry our women.

Shit changes with time. Just because something was one or the other in the past doesn't make it better or worse. The argument is about the merit of the change in this time, and whether it adequately serve the desires of the populace or overreaches and infringes on the rights of the populace against their will.

Originally Posted By: OldFolks

>>>It has to do with historical positions on issues and how they have changed over the years...not some logical calculation of any sort. This is where being around for awhile has an advantage; trends can be witnessed first-hand. Some of the socialistic stunts the liberals are pulling these days would have likely landed them in jail 40/50 years ago.

Couldn't the same thing be said about letting them Negroes serve in an integrated military or go to integrated schools or vote or marry our women.

Shit changes with time. Just because something was one or the other in the past doesn't make it better or worse. The argument is about the merit of the change in this time, and whether it adequately serve the desires of the populace or overreaches and infringes on the rights of the populace against their will.

I understand what you're saying, but it has nothing to do with our talking point. We're talking left vs. right, conservative vs. liberal, in terms of how news is reported. The hope (at least for me) is a fair and balanced media. Whether what the media is pushing or not as being better or worse for the country has nothing to do with our discussion...and, in my opinion, is NOT THEIR JOB!

Horse shit.You mother fuckers moved the center so far to the right that it made the center the left.

Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrHorse shit.You mother fuckers moved the center so far to the right that it made the center the left. I'm certain you wish this was true, but if you'd checked back with how things were when this country started out, you'll see you're wrong. But since you already said you don't care about this country, I guess I can't expect you to be bothered to go dig up the facts. Am I right?

Originally Posted By: thorThis is where being around for awhile has an advantage; trends can be witnessed first-hand.You're going to have to stop using this age thing as an argument. You're not 50 years older than me, or 40 or 30 even. I doubt you're even 20 years older.  Originally Posted By: thorSome of the socialistic stunts the liberals are pulling these days would have likely landed them in jail 40/50 years ago.Like refusing to give up your seat on a bus to a white man? To repeat my point, old does not automatically equal correct.  Originally Posted By: thorBut now we have some of the "news" outlets pushing it as centrist, with a near-centrist view being touted as radically conservative. Some folks honestly don't know any better, though. A centre position cannot be achieved in American news as it has been overcome by opinion. Spin is used by both sides (yes, even in the No-Spin Zone). Fox News is, without a doubt, in favour of the Republicans and the conservative right.

I said I do nto care about THIS country, this maggot infested piece of shit that stands today. Not what it used to be. WHat it is today is decay and corrupt and needs to be shot in the fucking head and put out of the worlds misery. If you want to cry about me not caring, than atleast get it right.To simply say I do not care about my country is a crock of shit and you know it. As to research, Iv lived it dumb ass, I can recall when fucking ford was in the whitehouse, Iv seen the moves, I watched it all, I lived it. I simply do not have my head up my ass so far that I can not see the light of day, I was here, Iv seen my freedoms erode and others torn from me, Iv watched as uncle sam wiped his ass with the constitution and raped lady justice. Its good she had the blind fold on, harder to ID your attacker when you can not see them. You can stuff your ideas and ideals in your ass and suck a bag of dicks.I on the other hand finished lunch, I got a bedroom to paint and some tile to seal so I can move to the new digs.Then however, I am going to sit down and smoke a fucking fat one and laugh at you and yours thor.So certain they are in the right and on gods side, all the while to fucking dumb to ever consider that they could be wrong.I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries. I blow my nose at you, you kinniggets!.

Originally Posted By: Grvtykllr...all the while to fucking dumb to ever consider that they could be wrong.It could also be that a person has their head too far buried in the sand to realize they're talking about themselves, too. Considered the possibility that you're wrong lately?

Very nice bobbo!"If God created everything, then He created shit. Therefore, God is an ass."using logic? I think maybe youll be better off if you avoid traveling to the US. I do however love your signature, I had not noticed it till I clicked submit and when it refreshed it was the first words on my screen.Very nice, very very nice. I shall try this argument next time the wife asks who took a shit and did not flush the toilet."FUck Julz, it was god, he is an ass. He created all things and so he created shit, know what else makes shit? an ass, so god shit in the toilet and left it floating for you to find, just to ruin your fucking day!"If nothing else, it should leave her standing silent, flabbergasted, unable to point a counter attack, and giving me time to throw a leash on the dog and take her out for a walk. By my return she will have forgotten all about it.Brilliant!

Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrIf nothing else, it should leave her standing silent, flabbergasted, unable to point a counter attack, and giving me time to throw a leash on the dog and take her out for a walk. By my return she will have forgotten all about it.Brilliant! Don't call your wife a bitch! Although I like the idea of her having a leash...

I, am never wrong. Unless you ask my wife, then I am never right, unless I agree with her. Just for fun Thor, id like you to watch a movie.ITs not political, it is however a dark, disturbing little film.After you see it, lets have a chat.Depending on where you find it to rent its either called the perfect witness, or the ungodly. No it has nothing to do with god.it came out in 2007, under perfect witness, but IMDB shows that as well as it coming out in 2010 under the ungodly.I found this fucked up shit after watching it and looing up teh director and writer (thomas c. Dunn) because I had never heard of him before. I watched it at random on netflix.If you have netflix, it comes up under dark thrillers or some shit. I may be gone for a while, once my shit is done I am moving and will be with no net till the install is completed at the new house. but Id like to discuss this with you when I do make it back.Mr U, I suggest you see it as well, and of course bobbo should, Id also love to hear scottys take on it.God and philosophy and how it all is justification for murder and rape.I saw it halloween night, Iv watched it 2 more times since then, do not leave to piss or get a drink, or turn your head, youll miss something each time you look away from the screen, leaving the room is a sin.I have yet to decide if I like this movie or not, but it does fucking command attention and stays in your head.

If anyone was gonna wear a leash, it would be me. she freaks out with ropes or cuffs on while I relax and enjoy it.

Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrJust for fun Thor, id like you to watch a movie.ITs not political, it is however a dark, disturbing little film.After you see it, lets have a chat.OK...as long as you try to leave the foul language out of our discussion (a slip here or there is acceptable). That's my condition. It may take a couple weeks, though...I'll have to watch it on a night when my wife goes to bed early. By the description I get on Netflix, it's not something she'd want to sit through.

hmm, I've never heard of this movie but I'll see if I can dig it up at the indie film place.  Originally Posted By: thorOK...as long as you try to leave the foul language out of our discussion is that because you don't like those dirty little words or are you trying to prudently save time by cutting his word count in half?

It would cut my word count in half.I have to refuse however. This is how i talk, and how I type.Its not that I think I can beat thor to submission with a conversation about this film, its that the film brings up so much shit to think about, and on most shit, thor is 180 degrees off of my own thoughts. I really can not say alot about this film with out giving away key points, or I could explain better.Mr U, I think you would enjoy it, and bobbo as well, but the two of you have thoughts more closely related to mine, what fun is it to have that conversation? Scotty I think would like the film as well, and while he shares many traits with me on these kinds of things, he always brings some shit to the conversation I never thought to include.Now if a certain girl were to want to talk dark tower with me.... she knows the basics, she should hurry the fuck up and read the rest, and the books that I pointed her to that play a major role in the tower, then let me know.TAK!

I shall endeavor to view it over this fortnight but make no promises that I will be successful in the task set before me. Basically cause I just read your post yesterday and already can't remember what the fuck it's called. That and I'm tight as hell when it comes to renting a movie. I'm one of those, 'why rent when you can own' kind of guys. So is it worth me buying it?And, why the fuck are you on the computer today? I thought you were netless.

well, I shall be netless.I am currently waiting for the gas company to show up and turn my gas on. Had it on once, smelled gas the next day, called them to bring in some expertise and sniff out the leak.Now i have one bedroom to paint, and the gas company to return and check for leaks since the repairs are now done then I can lay the linoleum in the bathroom and install a toilet and turn on the furnace and Im ready to move.I was supposed to be out last weekend, but that swine flu shit nearly killed me and I took a week off to heal, well not ot heal as much as I was unable to lift anything more than a can of coke or a new roll of ass wipe, so could not venture out to get the new place finished. Cost met he sale of my house, but its relisted and Iv had 3 people looking at it, it will be sold soon I think. Once I move though, I am netless. till it gets moved to the new house anyways. If I move this weekend and have all teh shit finished before then, I shall only be with no net for a week at most.Would I buy that movie?I watched it 3 times in 2 days.Its dark, I only found one major problem in its editing, and it forces you to think about shit you really would rather not.is it worth owning?I think so.the serial killer happens to be one of the writers, the director is the other writer, who happens to make a small appearance as the second guy at the AA meeting.I have no idea where the fuck these two came from and why I never heard of them before, but I will be watching for new shit to come from Dunn and releases of new movies that Mark Borkowski appears in.On netflix everyone gave it a good review, on IMDB people hated it.It took me a few days to decide I liked the movie. It lacks the numerous killings that most serial killer movies have, not alot of blood in it. its the writing and dialog I loved, the shit it made me think about well after it was over.Conscience is a sick bed. Under its filthy sheets lay all our fears. It's not conscience that prevents men from killing and raping, it's consequence. Fear of death, jails, God. But really where is he? Do they hear his name when they scream it? Do they return to him piece by piece when I'm finished with them? The moment that God strikes me down I'll smile, 'cause I'll believe in him for the first time.

Okay, it sounds like something that may interest me. I'll probably have time to watch next weekend. I'll be broke waiting for payday and so doing nothing then.

yeah, sounds like my nurse would like it too. Going to see if I can track it down on the weekend

Jon Stewart Catches Fox Using 9/12 Footage To Make Tea Party Look Bigger On the Daily Show last night, Jon Stewart pointed out that, in a segment about Rep. Michele Bachmann's tea party rally at the Capitol last week, Fox News' Sean Hannity used footage from the much bigger 9/12 rally, apparently to pump up the attendance numbers. The Daily Show - Nov. 10, 2009