Fight against Fed-funded abortion is on....

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Bravest Congressman Is Calling Obama’s Bluff Seems it's the democrats and republicans against the libocrats.

Not allowing fed-funded abortions is going to seriously affect only one group of people. The destruction and deterioration of already impoverished communities begins.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14Not allowing fed-funded abortions is going to seriously affect only one group of people. The destruction and deterioration of already impoverished communities begins. You of all people I would expect to understand that abstinance and education is the answer...not killing unborn children.

and only an idiot, with no concept of history would consider abstainace only sex education to be a viable option.ask Sarah's kid

Originally Posted By: unsupervisedand only an idiot, with no concept of history would consider abstainace only sex education to be a viable option.ask Sarah's kid Nobody, at least so far, has referred to abstinance only education. So, now who looks like the idiot? Seriously, liberals tend to see what they want to...your post is proof.

what me? jump to conclusions?well, I suppose stranger things have happened lolBut, we all know how conservatives love to use ignorance as a way to control the general populace. The less they know, the closer they follow

Originally Posted By: unsupervised

what me? jump to conclusions?

well, I suppose stranger things have happened lol

But, we all know how conservatives love to use ignorance as a way to control the general populace. The less they know, the closer they follow :smile:

No, we don't know that at all. All we DO know is that socialists like to use misinformation and selective education to change popular opinion on issues...Hitler and his cronies were masters at it. They're the ones who told their people that Jews like to use ignorance to control others. Sound familiar? Stalin also controlled his media, and it was common knowledge (after so many years) that you could tell more about what was going on by what was NOT printed in Pravda than by what was. And so it is with most of our media today...and Obama is out to silence the rest. But, that's another thread.

You're proof! The only statistic.

Certainly we can agree on one small point here can we not?Abortions that are performed to save the life of the mother, or because of a pregnancy resulting from a rape, or incest are covered.In the case of incest, a whole new set of rules needs to be set up that i have yet to write.If that rule was put in place, would you then agree to it?FOr myself, I am against abortion, I think its morally disgusting.I also think that I will never have to face that choice since I am a man. I can also see why there are valid reasons to have one, such as mentioned above. With out those reasons I have my own sick take on abortion that says we should grant them for any reason, but, if they are performed, surgical sterilization of the mother and father should also be performed at the same time, as they are not cognitively capable of figuring out what causes pregnancy and taking precautions when a baby is not the desired outcome.

Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrCertainly we can agree on one small point here can we not?Abortions that are performed to save the life of the mother, or because of a pregnancy resulting from a rape, or incest are covered.In the case of incest, a whole new set of rules needs to be set up that i have yet to write.If that rule was put in place, would you then agree to it?Sure...goes without saying in my book, so never thought to make it a point.

Though I should add that I think rape and incest should be taken on a case-by-case basis...not automatic.

I for one have mixed feelings, I think it should be a little harder than saying I have a baby get rid of it to get a abortion, but I think people should be able get them given certain situations.

I dislike it, but in my personal opinion, I think I'd rather the child die before it's really conscious and is truly aware of it's existence than let it be born, because someone knocked up a 13 year old girl destroying her life and it's life causing it to suffer for years on end until it dies from something.

You can argue adoption but that's not even a shoot fire way to assure the child to grow up a good life, it can suffer just as much and hate being born and for god knows suicide over the situations.

Sure you can argue it "could" grow up and live a happy healthy life and become rich and famous and blah blah. But so could those millions of sperm cells that die everytime you masturbate.

I'd rather get rid of it before it's conscious and understands life than for me and whoever I knocked up and it to suffer years on end because nobody was ready or near capable of taking care of it.

So basically you're saying instead of destroying it before it can understand reality destroying a "what if situation" even though it might have been a miscarriage anyway you want to potentially destroy 3 or more peoples lives and torture it.

I personally don't like to base what I do on What-If scenarios.

I personally take a much stronger view - I don't like abortion at all, not even in cases of rape and incest. But I recognise that others have different views, and I can only dictate behaviour to myself.

Originally Posted By: thorThough I should add that I think rape and incest should be taken on a case-by-case basis...not automatic. And up to the woman to pay for - not up to gov't. Sick and tired of my tax dollars going to stuff like this. All I want to pay fed taxes for is my mail delivery and the big one: Protecting and defending our shores, the way it was meant to be.And that liberal dude/dudette? You all are going to witness the error of your ways very soon by America simply standing up against all those whacked out, tax and spend socialist ideals ya'll have. We don't want it - why can't you get that? cripes.

You really want to stop wasting tax payer dollars?What if I could do one simple thing and save between 50 and 200 billion tax dollars a year? If I can do that, we can spend half of it on health care, and the other half to reduce our taxes.Legalize marijuana.THen add in all teh money you generate on new taxes.Iv told this to thor before and now iM telling you.You fuckwads had your chance and for 8 years you raped and pillaged the country and its citizens, you took a surplus and turned it in to a huge deficit, you took the image of America nearly world wide as a great place with great people and wiped your ass with it. We are now the most hated country on the fucking planet.NOw you assholes get out of the way, go sit in a corner and pout so we can fix it yet again, so that when the next morally right conservative gets elected there is a country left to fuck up one more time.Id love to argue this with you, but its pointless.I am in the middle of moving, I will not have the net for much longer and am uncertain how long it will take to get my connection moved to the new house. Sometime between 3 days and 2 weeks. Once I move the computer, I am out of net till its installed.

Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrYou fuckwads had your chance and for 8 years you raped and pillaged the country and its citizens, you took a surplus and turned it in to a huge deficit...Hmmm. Then perhaps you'd care to explain to us why you helped vote in somebody who's done nothing but throw gasoline on the fire since getting into office?

Helped?I did a lot more than help.I campaigned, I knocked on fucking doors, I made phone calls, I worked my ass off, and contributed money to it all, and most importantly, I voted.We are already in so fucking deep, more money at this point really does not matter, besides that, no bail out would of been needed if not for the unregulated shit that the 8 years piled on.Having said that, I disagree with the bail out, fuck em, they deserve to go under.

Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrWe are already in so fucking deep, more money at this point really does not matter, besides that, no bail out would of been needed if not for the unregulated shit that the 8 years piled on.Having said that, I disagree with the bail out, fuck em, they deserve to go under. It was "un-regulated" (to conservative protest) under Clinton. Bush did nothing, but I consider him pretty much Centrist. On the other hand, McCain tried hard to get it regulated again, but was defeted by some of the same Dems who are now supposed to be responsible for getting us out of this mess. Face it...though Bush did nothing (his fault), it was the Dems who started this mess and were responsible for standing in the way of Conservatives who were trying to do what was necessary to prevent it from exploding...one of the Dems now holds the office of US president. Congratulations to you and those like you who on giving the fox the key to the hen-house.Oh...and BTW, money ALWAYS matters. Any attitude to the contrary is what has historically been directly responsible for getting us into more national debt (as Obama has succeeded in doing).

I will say this, the times we have now started with that looney bastard Reagan when nancy ran the country with her fucking psychics, and THe one thing I have a major problem with in clinton, outside of furthering gun control, is NAFTA.Trickle down economics and NAFTA are two major fucking mistakes.

BTW, to say bush did nothing is not even close to teh fucking truth.
No bid contracts, a illegal and pointless war based on lies in fucking Iraq, the patriot act and torture? bush did nothing? You have got to be shitting me?

My problem is IM not a democrat or a republican, Im a realist.
I can see the good and the bad from each side, and there is very little good from the republicans side, they are for the rich and only the rich, the best way to be rich is to make more poor people. They are based in hate and stand against any actual science.
I am not a democrat, I simply align myself with the lesser of the two evils. I have not always voted democratic, but I have never fucking voted republican.