What's so bad about suicide?

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i agree with insearch it is a way out for some ppl and i don't thinks it cowardly to do if you have expiernced it you should no that too you ever sit there taking pills cutting you wrist you now how much balls that taked to kill yourself and yes everyone is eventualy broken

And why the hell not? acdc said it already, it takes guts to committ suicide, it has nothing to do with being a coward.

you guys aren't getting it

i think your the one not getting it you say you experinced it all i dunno about you but when i was sitting there with the pills and knife in my hand sitting I think it took alot of balls to slice my wrist and take them pills no one can say that it doesn't

and i have been in way worst shape then you amanda i have been threw hell shake the devils hand and never real came back

it doesn't take guts or balls to kill yourself, it takes a lot to live, suicide is the easy and stupid way out the "cowardly" way, you give up on life and are not willing to deal with and face your fears, those who commit suicide are the ones that don't have the balls to stick through the troubled times

To you Amanda what is the meaning of life?For you to no longer want to commit suicide you must have discovered a meaning that you felt is worth you continuing your life for. If not aren't you just deceiving yourself?As far as suicide being cowardly or not... There are many different mental conditions that would be impossible to understand unless you actually have that condition. Suicide is wierd, lots of people get bullied and shit and from that they become depressed, but not that kind of depression... Or not even the depression where you feel shit keeps going wrong and that you keep getting dealt the wrong cards... What about though when you realize the meaning of life for yourself and you CHOOSE that it is not worth you living for that? You can say suicide is cowardly to shelter yourself from the thoughts of suicide, but cowardly it is not. Sure it is VERY difficult for someone with extreme forms of depression to live their lives, but if they really don't want to live and they want to commit suicide what is so wrong with that? You might make a lot of people sad and it might be very difficult to explain why it is that you really want to commit suicide, but you need a will to live... and without that will what do you have?

hope. hope is always an option that's there to anyone. Sure, you can 'lose all hope', but it's right there for you to pick up again.

I agree, it takes a hell of a lot more to live than it does to cut yourself, or to jump off somewhere. Believe me it took a lot more to walk away from the edge, when you're standing there cold and wet, looking down knowing that if you took a few more steps it'd all be over, you'd fall for a while then bang and that'd be you gone from this world into something that has to be better. To take a few steps and not hurt anymore, to never have to feel the awful feeling in your gut, the tears running down your face, it would have been easy compared to turning away and walking back to life, to face all that you could have left behind. Yeah it would have been easier to sit and relax as the life literally flowed out from the cuts on my wrists, it's a strange feeling, I thought, it was relaxing all the pain seemed to flow right out. It would have been so easy to give into that. It was harder to have someone pull you back from that stem the flow, keep the pain inside of you. Sew you up, eave you with scars as a reminder of how you couldn't even kill yourself right. To go on after that. That takes guts and balls, I agree with Amanda. When you've been to hell and back, thought you'd found a way out, then realized it was false, then maybe you can say that you've been brave, that it took guts, til then don't try to pretend, to kid yourself that it's a brave thing to do, "Dolce et decorum est pro patria mori" [it's a good and wonderful thing to die for patriotism from a poem by Wilfred Owen] springs to mind, modify that a bit but the idea is the same, he called it an old lie. One which you continue to tell everytime you try to say that suicide is a brave thing.

I don’t know what one to reply to so I do this one. there have been those times but I would not what to go the way by being labeled as suicide by taking a bunch of pills, or slice myself or putting a bullet in myself. in a way the last moments till you die will be in way that i couldnt emaginefor me I would have it look like an 'Unfortunate Accident' by using a car by driving off a cliff or off the road, or a head on to a tree. Sometimes when I drive there is this feeling that I am going to go out this way I just don’t know when it doesn’t bother me at all. I just tell my self if it happens it happens. I never (still not) been with a girl so there really is noting to look forward to coming home just an empty apt. the few friends I have at the other school (witch was 3000 miles away from me) I went to before I transferred to the school in my home state. Over the IM I will ask a simple question and they just dismiss me after saying one word when they do that it just makes me crash But the thought had crossed my mind by driving of the side of the mountain but then I don’t. it is like I am waiting for it to happen by some other circumstances.Am I going crazy? some of those people that say the go to the 'Other Side' would comment that it is the last memory of one of your past lives that they died that way I don’t know; the universe is full of mystery.

well on the topic of the original question, no one can say whether it is truly wrong to take ones life, but certain problems or ordeals that people experience each day, that make them want to take their life, can be handled. So in the case of commiting suicide over solvable problems, going to people for help, I guess it would be considered as wrong, but if it something that no one could ever help out with or could never be worked out, than I do not know. I am just a human so I am not nearly smart enough to say.

Okay, I can relate to this in ways. I never considered myself as suicidal, but I did try it because I was heavily depressed - having no acceptance and all.But I got over those days by visiting my therapist and everything and most of it was just my mind telling me the wrong. Right now, I am a very happy person, trying to live my life to its fullest, because I haev only one life to live. In my opinion now, I feel that suicide is one of the most selfish things you could do possible.Just my opinion. I dont think it should be considered a solution.For those who are - i recommend seeing someone abotu your depressiong and suicidal attempts. They really are alot of help.

I'm the anon that wrote this topic, for me at least I think that it's something up with my mind. For instance a plethora of good things may occur, but one small little nothing can force me off a cliff of depression. I've tried to play things off that seem miniscule, but it is more difficult that anyone could imagine. I'm not sure if i'll ever find a solution to my problem and i'm not sure what will be the end result of my plight, all I can do is hope that I find a solution that is better for me than not.

Suicide is a personal decision. Of course it seems like a bad idea when one has acquired a lot of responsibilities over the years (i.e. spouse, kids) but it is a personal decision all the same....even if some see it as "selfish" or "cowardly" sometimes, or many times, your own pain is real to you alone...people can't conceptualize how bad you feel and they never will. They will only thoughtlessly ask you to prolong your pain and suffering.That reminds me...a well-known atheist philosopher, Dr. Michael Martin will be interviewed today at www.infidelguy.com at 8pm ET. I suspect he might talk about suicide...he's atheist too.