i'm a little puzzled as the icon clearly shows. i have a question...i'm not sure if there's a definite answer to it but i wanna know what u guys think. ok here's the question:about a year ago i was foolin around with my girlfriend at the time and penetrated her with my penis. i continued to pleasure her for about 30 seconds without climax, at which point she told me to stop cuz she realized i didn't have a condom on. now what i'm wondering is does this count as losing one's virginity or not? please get back to me about that. thank you.
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Losing virginity
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if your penis entered her vagina then you're not a virgin anymore, or if a penis entered her vagina then she's not a virgin anymore, climax or orgasm or whatever else doesn't even come into play
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It's a line in the sand... Any rule would be arbitrary because there are no meaningful differences between "virgins" and "non-virgins." I doubt that you felt a sudden change after penetrating your girlfriend, and that's precisely because there was no change... so call yourself whatever you please.
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Huh? If you penetrate a girl with your penis it's sex.
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Yeah, I don't understand your statement either. If he penetrated, he can't exactly call himself a 'virgin' just because he "feels" like it.
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It was more of a comment about the question than my actual answer. That is: Even if he has some sort of arbitrary rule with which to determine his status as a "virgin" or "non-virgin," he hasn't really learned anything about himself, because it's not a meaningful category. I don't think it's a particularly good indicator for other people either... I doubt he knows any more about sex than someone who hasn't experienced 30 seconds of penetration. What I should have said was: Even if you call yourself a "non-virgin" you're not really any different than you were before (in a meaningful way, not in a technical way), so what you call yourself isn't important. The fact is that there are no real differences, physical or emotional, between a "virgin" who is barely a virgin (i.e. they have had some sexual experience, but they haven't crossed the "line"), and a "non-virgin" who has barely crossed the “line.” If you're straddling the line, as Don Quixote is, you shouldn't bother with such rough categories.Broadly, it was a comment about artificial categories as a whole…edit: By the way, I didn't mean to turn this into some sort of a silly philosophy-101 class. You two just happened to have caught me posting what amounts to a stream of consciousness... meaningless drivel, for the most part
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Did she or someone else penetrate you? If not, then, yes, I would say you are still a virgin...of sorts. :blush:
As for her, no, she is not a virgin...unless you want to be anal about it... :grin: -
If you penetrated her vagina with your penis, then you're no longer a virgin. It doesn't matter if you climaxed or not by doing so, or only did it for 30 seconds. So you're not a virgin. Does it matter? No.