If and why............

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please dont bash at me for saying how i feel, i held back what i wanted to say in the spanking thread, but this one im not.

I don't want to bash u. I don't want to be mean (or sound men) I see wut ur saying. i don't think u relise they are talking about u.(u as in young person...not u as in YOU. same with me.)
I have seen the kids that throw fits. ..tantrums too. I have seen parents that ignore them and I have seen parents that get own to them...I've seen parents practically pool the poor kids arm out for jerking them around and yelling at them. I've also seen a kid throw a tantrum and his dad looked at him and said stop.....and he just started pouting. Wut happends after this I dk. But I've seen a lot. I've seen a 9 year old girl walk down the store cussing out some one a cell phone. So I really get wut ur saying. BUT I been sitting here thinking how can I answer and wut do I think. who's fault is it? Are kids any different.? And u know wut. There talking about me (and u cuz ur my age) I know they said like from 11 to 17. But how different is a 17 year old from a 18 year old. I don't feel any different now than last year when I was 17. I have came to the conclusion I can't answer Angel's question cuz I don't know. I don't know how it used to be. I wasn't there. All I know is how it is now. I'm sure even back then kids threw tantrums. And yea.. there parents MIGHT have reacted differently. But I don't know. I wasn't born..... And when I was younger.. I was too little to notice and when I was old enough I didn't care to notice.

It hurts my feelings to see kids being yanked around and screamed at...and it makes me mad to see kids / youth (even 20 somthign year olds) be mouthy to their parents. My parents tought all 4 of us to respect authority / elders/ say yes sir and no ma'am... I'm telling u I get some strange ass looks when I call some one sir or ma'am . LMAO Pete even told me to stop calling him sir. But he is a sir, he's older than me.

i think that it don't fall under the parents alone but maybe the parents and the kids personality.
example.. a kid that's been beat might turn into a monster or could turn into some one that's afraid of every thing. a kid that's never been hit or abused could turn into a monster just like the one that got beat.
Think on this.. Two kids in the same house hold ..raised the same way. 1 turns out to be well mannered, hard working and a pleasure to be around. Whirl the other a abuser , theft, ..(u put bad things in) ...a monster. Who's fault is it then?

This is like a lot of things. it's not a black and white issue...... There is a lot of gray in the middle.

"ARE kids these days more out of control than they were say 10-20 years ago??? "YesKids today have no respect for authorityThis is because many parents, police and government have FAILED to earn that respect

After all the detail people went into arguing that it may very well not be true, and why, your answer is simply "yes"? That's very deep.

I think they are WAY more out of control and I think its because of the lack of disipline

Buzzie is allowed to disagree with other posters. And he gave a different reason that puts a new perspective on the whole question.

I'm allowed to disagree with the poster I replied to, and I gave him a new reason for disagreeing, that hasn't appeared in this thread yet. I hope I put a whole new perspective on his reply.Yup, it's because everyone has failed. Excuse me while I step into the suicide booth.

I do believe that kids today behave worse than that of the generation before mine.My view can be summed up in the fact that more kids are learning all the wrong things from their friends and parents need to team up to make a difference in today's youth, becuase that is what the kids are doing without knowing it. It is a side-effect of the age where kids can communicate 24/7. If you think about 20 years ago the main place where kids socialized and talked was at school and church. Now, kids chat online, with cellphones and other technologies that were unheard of back then.

Almost all of those kids have or will become adults. Are we doomed? Should I stake out a homestead in a quiet corner of Siberia?

.....ARE kids these days more out of control than they were say 10-20 years ago??? of course, 2.....IF your answer to the above was yes, then what do you put it down to? the media stinks, kids are out of control, their parents do absolutely nothing about it, they do whatever they want, and they are in the wrong environment and are instigated the wrong wayon the other hand though, I have a lot of respect for my parents. compared to my older siblings I'm the good Samaritan lol. no really though I am. my sister is 24 and whenever she comes over or w/e she gives my mom smart remarks or talks back and she doesn't get slapped like I do when I fight with my brothers. unfairness. but I do think kids now days are out of control. they have no respect for their parents which leads to know respect for adults in general. but my parents helped us to develop that quick.

1> ARE kids these days more out of control than they were say 10-20 years ago??? In my personal opinion, today's youth have no respect for anything, whither it's for themselves or others; I rarely see a younger person who gives a flying flip about anything anymore.2> IF your answer to the above was yes, then what do you put it down to? I wont say it's all on the media, but I do think that it does have a large impact on the children in our society today. Kids emulate what they see, and if they see something advertized on the boob tube (which as we know most commercials target our youth), and it looks so enticing and wonderful, so in thier eyes how could it possibly be bad when you see celebrities do it. There is a lack of disapline in schools and homes, and children are not being taught what the consequences of thier actions are when they do something wrong. I see so many parents who try to be thier kids 'buddy' instead of thier parent and when they try to voice thier authority, nothing happens because they've put themselves in the position that they are not someone to respect as an adult, to listen and learn from because it's thier friend,not thier parent.

my sister is 24 and whenever she comes over or w/e she gives my mom smart remarks or talks back and she doesn't get slapped like I do when I fight with my brothers.If you mean "slap" literally, then your parents don't believe in hitting other adults. If you mean it figuratively, then they don't believe in spanking other adults. Were you raised in a very different way than your sister was (i.e, was she not raised with a lot of discipline, as you were)? If not, to what do you attribute the personality difference?If kids are worse now, it's not something that suddenly happened on year. There must be a lot of undisciplined kids who are now adults, and a lot more on the way. Is civil society in big trouble?

Originally Posted By: Steve_A>If kids are worse now, it's not something that suddenly happened on year. There must be a lot of undisciplined kids who are now adults, and a lot more on the way. Is civil society in big trouble? It isn't at me but I will re say it.If raising children to make them self sufficient, respectable adults, is the goal, I don't think we are doing to bad. If that is what we are to compare, I think twenty two year olds are doing a hell of alot better now than they were when I was twenty two!

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Hey AngelWitch! I love your intriguing questions. So here's my honest opinion.

Yes, I do think, that in a sense, kids are more out of control. The ideal family structured life has pretty much completely disappeared. A humungous percentage of parents are divorced and this produces a conflict for the children. In addition, a lot of traiditonal disciplinary methods are being forgotten or done away with, and as a whole upcoming generation, it is pretty clear that the fuure adults will suffer from it.

If you try to blame the media, then you are completely wrong. Sure the media plays a role in the life of the average human being, but it is not solely responsible for the way kids are acting these days. And honestly, I don't think we can boil it down to one or two things that directly influence the way children are acting and being raised. I think that schools today, especially public ones, have put a lot of influence on drugs and sex, which preforms a sort of reverse psychology on students. In addition, the style of dancing that public schools (high schools) engage now competely promotes sex and sexual conduct. Aside from sexual conduct, students tend to think that they have more freedoms, or at least they deserve them, and as a result wont show any respect to anyone around them including adults. A sort of "internal rebellion" against authorities has risen, which is one of the raasons that children are more out of control then ever.

I'm 18 by the way.
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