Pros and Cons

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what are the pros and cons of a natural(uncurcumsized) penis,

Pros:More sensation and sensitivitiy Cons:Harder to cleanproblems(phimosis, fren. breaves, tight fore skin, adhesions, short fren.)Prejudice of it

are there pros and cons for the females?

Not really.

Pros:
1. More feeling.
2. Can jack off without messy lubes.
3. Looks better (IMHO). No ugly scar tissue.
4. Don't face the risk of losing "it" due to a bungled circumcision.

Cons:
1. Yes, you DO have to keep it clean.
2. Some people have problems - phimosis, frenulum, etc.

1.True most likely, but debatable according to some of the I have read where they said they could prove it.2.Yuo don't have to use lube at all, many prefer not to. That answer is way overgeneralized.3.You opinion. And many women seem to disagree.4.Never heard of that happening before, but I am sure it probably has.

Circumcision is a surgical procedure, and occasionally things go wrong. If something does go wrong, infection is the usual complication.It's hard to measure scientifically if uncircumcised is more sensitive, but the idea makes sense (not letting the mucus membrane that covers the head dry out), and adults who have gotten circumcised have often reported decreased sensitivity. But there's no way to really know unless someone probes the penis owner's brain before and after.

In reply to: 4.Never heard of that happening before, but I am sure it probably has. Just google for "circumcision" and you will find many cases. Here is a good link: Complications of circumcision, including death

100% natural is best. There is no 'pro' to removing a piece of you. I will never critisise a religious covenent but there is no reason to mutilate a child!

You are entitled to your own opinion, but what you are saying isn't factual. Also, how would you know what's better, you aren't cut. Yuo have no physical clue. Your opinion is based off your speculation and not fact. And the fact is, that it can't be proved. And it can't be proved because you can't experience both, it's one or the other.

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you can't experience both

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If you're an uncut sexually active adult male, and you get circumcised, then you continue to be sexually active, you have a good basis for comparison. I don't think anyone who's posted on the subject fits that description. But such people do exist.

In reply to: In reply to: you can't experience bothIf you're an uncut sexually active adult male, and you get circumcised, then you continue to be sexually active, you have a good basis for comparison. I don't think anyone who's posted on the subject fits that description. But such people do exist. The problem with that is that an uncircumcised adult that got circumcised probably had some defect that led to the circumcision, so would probably favor circumcision. A more fair test would be if someone goes through circumcision just for the heck of it. I don't think you will find many volunteers.

Lots of people get circumcised for reasons other than physical (religious conversion, etc.)

The problem is that there are too many variales. Getting circumcised at birth and mid life would not make for a fair comparison.

Not a perfect comparison, but a useful one.Some medical researcher with time and money might someday study the penises of circumcised and uncircumcised men of different ages, men who were circumcised as adults, etc., and see how circumcision affects the nerves and tissues of the penis. That would add more data, but still wouldn't definitively show how a man perceives the feelings in his brain.

Circumcision certainly must reduce sensation. Even if the glans' sensitivity remained exactly the same (it doesn't), it is a FACT that the foreskin itself is packed with thousands of nerve endings, as is the frenulum. Both of these are usually excised when circumcision is performed.

What you said makes sence, but it can't be proven because there are no means to.

In reply to: What you said makes sence, but it can't be proven because there are no means to. In the case of the nerves in the foreskin, I don't see where any proof is even needed. It is removed. You will not sense anything from it again. For the frenulum, I don't know. There are too many different ways to circumcise which can affect the frenulum in different ways.

In reply to: 100% natural is best. There is no 'pro' to removing a piece of you. might wanna narrow that statement to the foreskin...just a thought.

it is true that the foreskin is packed with nerves, but only a fraction of these nerve ending are programed for pleasure. the great thing about our mind, is that when you are circumcised, your nerve can grow back, therefore the sensation should be the same for a cut, and uncut guy.