Someone mentioned something in another thread about the bulbocavernosus muscle, responsible for the forcefulness of ejaculation. It seems you can exert some conscious control over the force of ejaculation, but I wondered if this means you can control those particular muscles or not.How many different muscle groups are there in the male genital area that can be controlled consciously? I've been trying to strengthen and develop more control over the muscles involved in cutting off the flow of urine, by starting and stopping the flow as many times as possible when I'm taking a piss. (I don't do this every time or anything though!) As that became easier, I started seeing how much I could slow down the rate of urination. I want to see if it's possible to exert the same sort of control over ejaculation, and be able to stop ejaculating in mid-spurt (or not ejaculate at all). I've heard of practitioners of yoga who can divert the flow of semen into their bladders, without losing a drop. Some of those people can control aspects of body function that you would think were totally involuntary: there's one guy who can spontaneously create a temperature difference of 10 degrees between his hands by changing the blood flow! What are the muscles that allow you to move your penis up and down? Their function seems to be connected to whatever controls blood pressure in the penis (i.e., when you flex hard, your dick gets harder). Does mean the same muscles are controlling blood pressure and penis movement, or can the two things be controlled independently of each other? If they are the same muscles, does that mean that lifting weights with your dick would give you more control over penile blood pressure?Anyway, here's a list of things I think it might be cool to be able to do:Achieve an erection spontaneously in a short period of time(without mental arousal or physical contact)Have an orgasm without ejaculatingThe yoga master ejaculation trickEjaculate on cue (seems unlikely, but who knows?)Control the valve that makes you unable to urinate with a full-on erectionTwo words: spontaneous orgasm Is anyone else interested in this kind of stuff? What are the limits of what can/can't be controlled? How many different muscles can be controlled in the genital area? Also, what exercises can you do to develop more control over these sorts of things?
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Strengthening genital muscles
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You're asking more questions than anyone could probably answer or even care to know. Any type of control that you are talking about takes lots and lots of time and effort to master. Years probably. That takes more effort and patience than most people have.
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I'm not expecting answers to everything I brought up, I just wanted to know what other people knew on the topic. My main question is a pretty basic anatomy question: What muscles in this area can and can't be controlled?
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Technically most any muscle can be controlled. Like you mentioned, master practitioners of yoga and things like that can control many many aspects of their body. The key is learning to isolate the muscle or muscle group.
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Achieve an erection spontaneously in a short period of time(without mental arousal or physical contact) can be done, it is hormones that cause this and when being a teenager, guys will sometimes get hard, for no reason at all but this goes away after puberty is done with, about age 20.
Have an orgasm without ejaculating, this can be done most easily with the 'Stop and Go' style of masterbating and you can have an orgasm without ejaculating, and sometimes I can ejaculate and still keep on going when I get too close to being completely over the edge.
The yoga master ejaculation trick, lol is this mean self-suck or anything with bending to get in unusual positions because I really am not sure about which one you mean, but both are done by stretching and sucking yourself or leaning back as far as you can and then just fucking the bed.
Ejaculate on cue (seems unlikely, but who knows?), it is possible and men in the porn industry, with directors that is...do have to learn to cum on cue or close enough to it so that the camera angle and scene ends just as the script says. You wouldn't exactly want to cum too early when she gives a bj or you fuck her breasts, because these are so easy to see when they cum they'll have to redo the scene, and though it sounds like a good job, but having to do this with some girl who you don't even like or think is attractive is a disadvantage, and they get that quiet a bit for what the work promises. XD
Control the valve that makes you unable to urinate with a full-on erection, sry this is involuntary and is automatically done when a guy gets a hard on, but when he starts to get soft he can pee again while he is still half hard.
I think that basically covers it, any more questions?
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Hey, thx for replies. In reply to:Achieve an erection spontaneously in a short period of time(without mental arousal or physical contact) can be done, it is hormones that cause this I meant more like choosing to have an erection and spontaneously achieving one w/o stimulation or sexual thoughts. I was an adolescent not too long ago myself, so I'm familiar with the involuntary spontaneous erection. In reply to: Have an orgasm without ejaculating, this can be done most easily with the 'Stop and Go' style of masterbating It would be neat though to be able to do this regardless of what type of stimulation caused the orgasm. For example, it would be cool to have an orgasm when recieving a bj and just decide not to ejaculate. I wonder if your technique could be modified to learn how to do this. I've heard of another tech where you squeeze the base of the penis during orgasm, and once you get enough practice doing this, you're supposed to be able to do it without the squeezing. In reply to: The yoga master ejaculation trick, lol is this mean self-suck or anything That sure would be cool too, but I'm not holding my breath on ever being able to do it. I was referring to the technique I mentioned earlier where you redirect semen into your bladder instead of out the urethra. In reply to: Ejaculate on cue (seems unlikely, but who knows?), it is possible and men in the porn industry, with directors that is...do have to learn to cum on cue or close enough to it I wasn't very specific here. By "on cue" I meant just by willpower, w/o receiving stimulation or anything, and maybe even without having an erection first (seems less likely.) In reply to: Control the valve that makes you unable to urinate with a full-on erection, sry this is involuntary and is automatically done when a guy gets a hard on Does this happen because the valve is squeezed or something by the expanded corpus cavernosum or corpus spongiosum (correct me if these are the wrong terms)? If this is the case then I agree it's probably physically impossible to develop direct control over it. However, if it's directly controlled by some muscle, then maybe it is possible. If it is directly controlled by muscles I wonder if this is what's happening in the yoga trick I mentioned earlier.
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This is a very interesting thread. There are lots of muscles that aren't normally under voluntary control that can be made so by enough practice. After all, that's what toilet training of infants is about.I have heard that anyone who sets up a video camera on their ear, so they can see it clearly on a monitor, can teach themselves to wiggle their ears in about 20 minutes. The point is getting the feedback on small movements. If you get similar feedback on other muscles, you should be able to learn to control them. I believe this has been done with some other muscles.I've also heard of a yogi who could erect at will.The "retrograde ejaculation", sending the semen to the bladder, was driven by a desire not to "waste" sperm. It's actually not a good thing to do, because it can weaken the bladder sphincter and become irreversible. This in fact very often happens to guys who have had prostate operations - they have retrograde ejaculations whether they want them or not.Urinating with an erection is quite possible for many guys, though not for others.
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have an erection spontaneously in a short period of time(without mental arousal or physical contact)
Well, I had plenty of those during my teen years! But not since. They were kindda cool sometimes, but mostly inconvenient and embarrassing.
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Have an orgasm without ejaculating
The yoga master ejaculation trick
Well, I can sometimes do that yoga ejaculation trick and do a retrograde ejaculation almost entirely into my bladder. I don't take yoga either :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: Basically, I just edge for a long time, then when I feel myself cumming, I mentally block the urge to ejaculate, and wish that I wasn't cumming, and somehow I get the feeling of ejaculation, yet nothing comes out. Later, if I pee into a glass, I can see all the cum in my urine, so it all went into my bladder. It requires a lot of concentration to do this though.
I can also ejaculate without an orgasm, again if I edge for a long period of time.
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Ejaculate on cue (seems unlikely, but who knows?)
Can't do that, but wish I could!
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Control the valve that makes you unable to urinate with a full-on erection
I can urinate with a full-on erection. Just can't urinate in the middle of an orgasm or ejaculation.
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Two words: spontaneous orgasm
I once had a spontaneous ejaculation, after about 6 weeks of abstinence. I say ejaculation and not orgasm, because it really was just the ejaculation without most of the pleasure that goes along with an orgasm. It was cool though. :smile:
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In reply to: I once had a spontaneous ejaculation, after about 6 weeks of abstinence. I say ejaculation and not orgasm, because it really was just the ejaculation without most of the pleasure that goes along with an orgasm. It was cool though. The closest I ever came (heh) to this was one time when I was doing chin-ups naked. I developed an erection and found I could get pleasurable sensations by sort of arching my body as I was lifting myself up. Once I couldn't do any more chin-ups, I went to sit down and, to my surprise, I ejaculated. I wouldn't say I had an orgasm per se, but the whole experience was very satisfying in the way that both weight lifting and sexual experience are. I've never tried to duplicate this again though.I've heard some women can achieve orgasm by doing kegel (sp?) exercises. Can some men do something similar to this? Is it still considered kegels if it's a guy doing it (same muscles)?
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I've seen a few posts about sending the semen into the bladder instead of ejaculating. Isn't this unhealthy. It sounds like what happens when you get a UTI.pardon my ignorance
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For me, it's kinda hard not to piss before masturbating and usually, I have an erection and then piss.
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In reply to:I've seen a few posts about sending the semen into the bladder instead of ejaculating. Isn't this unhealthy. It sounds like what happens when you get a UTI.There isn't really anything unhealthy about ejaculating into the bladder voluntarily. The semen just goes into the bladder, then gets flushed out the next time you pee. The only problem is if you ejaculate into the bladder involuntarily, in other words when you ejaculate normally, it goes into the bladder when it shouldn't. Its not a big deal for your health, but it will make you infertile if you ejaculate semen into your bladder instead of out of the penis like it should.
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Maybe what you're looking for are "Kegal Excercises"? Both men and women can benefit from them. Helps to delay cumming so you're not a 'one minute man'... Kegal Excercises
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well everytime i piss too soon after ejaculating then it generally stings. id hate to imagine what it would be like if you shot your load into your bladder.but thats kinda O/T, as to what ive gotta say. cant remember where exactly i picked up this titbit but it does work. not sure which muscle it is, but its the one that you use to stop yourself from going when you need a piss. if strong enough, when you tense up it can stop you from ejaculating so you can keep going till you orgasm again, and again, and again, if needs be. the only problem is that it takes effort (you heard me). most men dont have it near strong enough. the easiest way to strengthen it is cock pull ups (grins dont panic, i dont mean cock push ups). this is done by taking a damp flannel (or anything else that will weight it down, flannel is what i use) hanging it over yourself whilst erect, then lifting your cock up by only using the muscles in it. if you cant do that with a damp flannel to begin with then just try lifting your cock with no weight other than its own.if anyone has any further questions, or if this wasnt clear enough post em here. im not too good at describing this as i was doing it from an early age without realising what i was doing. it really does improve your staying power, though you dont cum as often each session, so the selfish ones need not apply grins