almost all of what you said about gay's could also be used for an alcholic. you say u had brother(s) and/or sister(s) who were gay, well if u look at alcholics their kids have the tendancy to be an alcholic and yes you can also see early stages before they become full blow too. so does that mean we're BORN alcholics? well if that's true then be looking for me to be in AA meetings in some years to come.and who knows maybe science is looking to prove gays are born that way, rather than looking to see why they are that way. sure there's differences between gays and straits, but there's also differences between alcholics and non-alcholics. but those differences are B/C of the alchol, not the other way around. there's a LOT of widely accepted "science" and "research" that is falsified or just untrue. if being born gay was socially unacceptable it would be reflected in most research or science. this is how it was before, YEARS ago. but the "recent" studies or reseach shows otherwise.and what about pediphils(sp)? they brain is differnt than a normal person's, so are they born w/ an attraction to children?
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AM I GAY
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OKay First off. Do you really HONESTLY think gay people would choose a life where they will be ridiculed, laughed at, and possible physically attack?? Seriously think about that question.If I had the choice I'd be straight. Living a straight life would be a hell of a lot easier than being Gay, but guess what? I don't have that option. I can find women attrative but sexually there's nothing there. But it goes deeper than Sex. Emotionally I am more connected with a man. I connect in a relationship level with a male, not a female.For you to truely understand what being gay is you have to look past sex, but let me tell you sex is not the main point of being gay. It's about being with the person that makes you feel good, that truely makes you at ease.
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There is evidence that there is a hereditary component in alcoholism. One thing that appears to be true is that people who don't get drunk easily are more likely to becone alcoholics. The researchers are smart enough to understand that environment affects behavior, and construct experiments that try to neutralize its effects.
There are lots of individual studies that are not very good, but you make it sound like science is a completely politicized (and thus useless) enterprise. That's not true. The jury is still out on the idea of inheriting a tendency toward homosexuality, but evidence is accumulating that supports the idea.
As was said, why would so many people choose homosexuality, given that it still lacks social accpetance? It's lead to numeroous suicides. And why does homosexuality exist in the animal kingdom? Do gay penguins choose their lifestyle?
From WebMD: Is There a 'Gay Gene'?
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Then again, lots of alcoholists are addicted to alcohol (atleast, that would sound obvious)I dont see how u can be addicted to gay.lolIm gay, and trust me, just like eddie said, if i had a choice, i'd be straight, and go for girls, but, I feel way more attraction to guys then to girls.
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Hey Eddie…Hey Guys…Hey Pounce…I'm really glad you know yourselves so well at such a young age. For a lot of guys in this world just accepting and understanding your own sexuality is something difficult...Understanding yourself alone is a major accomplishment. For the most part, most gay men and women have to know and understand themselves completely in order to understand and fit into a straight society. It is funny how we, as gay people, have to toughen up and play right in a straight world.To all you Non-gay people…..Do not judge a gay man and his lifestyle until you walk a mile in his shoes. Gay people all over this world have to pretend and act straight just to find acceptance, and even then, it’s laced with hatred! Be thankful you’re straight! Because, you know what? I’ll bet you wouldn’t make it on our side of the fence with all of the rules we have been dealt with and have to live by!!!
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In reply to: what about pediphils(sp)? they brain is differnt than a normal person's This is simply not true. Although the workings of a paedophile's brain is obviously different to that of 'normal' people, I've never seen any research indicating that their brain structure is different in any way.Gay brains are almost certainly subtly different to straight brains in their structure. Although it doesn't constitute absolute proof that people are born straight or gay, it's a compelling piece of evidence to suggest it.
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In reply to:Gay brains are almost certainly subtly different to straight brains in their structure. Although it doesn't constitute absolute proof that people are born straight or gay, it's a compelling piece of evidence to suggest it.Thank you. You understand the purpose and goals of science.
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Do you really HONESTLY think gay people would choose a life where they will be ridiculed, laughed at, and possible physically attack?? Seriously think about that question
what about spirtual beleifs? christians get ridiculied no matter where they are, from the verbal insults and put downs in the USA to being killed in Africa and Estern coutries. i mean we KNOW they chose it.
i mean you guys kinda talk like science is an absolute, like it's NEVER wrong. what about people who have been dianosed(sp) w/ cancer and stuff. and then they go back for a checkup and there's no cancer. i mean we've never found a cure and the body can't just heal itself from that stuff. so does that mean science was wrong? there are incidents where things happened that scientificly could not have happened, but they did.
look i'm not trying to get into a big long disscussion, b/c i don't have all the answers, and besides there's only 1 of me speaking from this standpoint.
and no i'm not saying that science is just political. i AM saying that society chooses what sceince to publicly annouce.
example: i saw a documentary on the History channel about the Flood (u know the one w/ Noah, the animals on the big boat), they said that the only part of the world was the part around the KNOWN world, not the litteral globe. they even had experts speaking about it. and sure that sounds fine and all but what about the fish fossils found on tops of mountains that were no where near the KNOWN world? that would be my question to them, however they never even mentioned fish fossils, at all. well it makes sense, b/c if i didn't already know about the fish fossils i wouldn't have even questioned it. however that's how most people are, they hear somthing and they don't even question it. sorry for my little rant. that's just how i feel. -
Feeling and Believing are 2 different thingsOne of the reasons u fall in love with some1 also has to do with feromons, you can't decide which feromons (sp?) u like, nor which food u love, but, u can 'decide' what u believe, and what u don't.
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i understand that people 'feel' differently with other people. i have 1 friend that i'm very lax w/ and we get along great, whether we're playing video games, sports, or just sitting around talking. we wrestle and play-fight somtimes which is cool too. i have another friend who, even if we're doing somthing or have somthing to talk about, it's not very lax and laid back, and at times can be down right awkward. we've hardly ever touched each other, only maybe a hand shake. now both of them are guys so understand what u say about 'feeling'. but i don't feel a homo-attraction to either of them in the least bit. not sure where i was going with that but just that the first guy is my closest friend i have (aside from my wife). but for ur food comment i think that's untrue. i used to LOVE mcdonald's. i mean if i had a choice to eat there or ANYWHERE else i would. but now i hate it. it makes me sick to my stomach (literally). but that's come from a choice, i choose not to like it anymore, and in turn my body does not accept it like it used to. also i've found that baked foods are better (healthier) than fried. i used to dispise baked chicken, but now i love it. i also used to drink soda all the time, but after finding out how bad it is for you, as opposed to water, i have replaced and increased my water intake a lot, and now i enjoy it. (i used to not like water that much)yes u decide what u believe and what u don't. but that's part of my point, u decide if ur gay or not. it was stated earlier that being gay is not just about sexuality but about feelings and emotions. but the thing is that's the ONLY difference between gays and straits, sexuality. you can have VERY close guy friends, but not be gay.
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The reason u hate mcdonalds food is probably because u ate too much there, it's possible to make sure u hate it, but u cant just say "oh i hate that food" or "oh i love that food"I dont agree with the u choose to be gay part, since, as i said, its all a matter of social and sexual attraction to another person, can you force urself to become gay? no, you can't, it is impossible for you to force urself to be gay, and, for gay people, its the same way around, and that has to do with feelings and emotions indeed, and 1 thing i know, is that u can't control ur feelings and emotions, meaning, you can't choose what to feel.Yes, you can have very close guy friends, and that just means u dont have any sexual and 'real' social attraction to him, but just have fun hanging out with him, etc, theres a line between loving and liking.I have very close girl friends, does that make me straight? No, it doesn't, trust me, if i had a choice, anyone for that matter, gay people would hardly exist.
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well explain rapist and serial killers. and what about pediphials(sp)? do they not have a choice either? i mean i could justify everyone of those logically, but you wouldn't beleive it. can't forced to be gay? you underestimate the mind my friend. i have an aunt who beleives she has arthirtis, but medically she doesn't. she beleives it so deeply that her body follows that her mind beleives. does she WANT arthritis? of course not, but she mentally has it. so i could be gay if i desired it so. just like many people make themselves sick just by thinking it.
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Rapist killers and pedophiles hurt other people, theres a difference between that is it?Some rapist and killers most certainly do have a choice, and, some pedophiles dont, but, theres a difference between hurting people and not, i dont see how i hurt anybody at all anyway, im done with this, i know im gay, and i know if i had a choice, i wouldnt be, and u think what u think, fine by me
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In reply to: well explain rapist and serial killers. and what about pediphials(sp)? do they not have a choice either? i mean i could justify everyone of those logically, Then please justify a pediphile to me, logically????
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well i know the difference in that way, those ways are illegal too. that's not the point. ur saying you can't help but be gay, ur born that way. well rapist, serial killers, and pediphials claim the same thing.you can hurt urself and other people. what if, when u get older, ur suddenly not gay. (my uncle did it so i know it happens) you have a lot of baggage to carry, and the people you were with, what if they weren't as 'sure' as you that they were gay? they were just curious and u made them think they were and now their life is confusing and troubling b/c of the 'love' they thought they had?
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sorry, but ur uncle was either never gay at all, or still is gay.I dont see how im different from you, at all.love can pass by, if one doesnt love their partner anymore, doesnt mean hes not straight or not gay or whatever~
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rapist and murders get ther kicks doing what they do.it an impulse they sick mother f*ckers. what gays do is their own business. its not a choice they have its a chemical imbalance in the brain.
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sorry, but ur uncle was either never gay at all, or still is gay
really? prove it. i mean even from ur stand point how could u say that? people have been born w/ cancer and stuff like that but there are incidents where they do not have it anymore, and science can't explain it. people are born w/ ashmtha (sp) but 'grow out of it' (although there's no cure), so y can't people (for lack of a better term) 'grow out of' homosexuality?
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cancer is something that 'lives' in ur body, a virus, ur telling me beinggay is a virus?
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oh my gosh man! u missed the whole point....
