Yup, exactly I personally know how it affects the nice-guy thing, because I was at the same right spot.Then again, I cant really see why I neglected such a side before. I mean, there is nothing wrong with it, since its sweet and caring still.But You are right when You said its about self-confidence.I personally think that this has alot to do about how people grow up and what influences them. I think it comes really down to it in the teen period. I remember my classmates, You know, playing with girls at that age, yet I never didnt. I didnt consider it proper to do so, and since we were still just kids, there really was no other way. I was still respected as a person with strong principles, and did have my first kiss when I was a teen and I do believe the girl was madly in love, but still, sexuality was neglected. Perhaps this was the reason it never went further than just kisses.Nevertheless, I am not regretting the road Ive walked upon. Its left me more open to the beauty of mind, and thoughts. I can really get into peoples head if I want to, also really bad way (Man did I write strange plays at school, but these received always great feedback since they were so different to what other class projects put out). But also good ways, which is the important thing. So no I do not regret the decisions I personally made. This is an honest man telling you all right now, that Ive never tried a smoke nor ever been drunk. I do drink socially, but no, Im totally against shadowing my mind and thoughts.Nevertheless, it was probably a few years ago that I noticed that even though I can get along with girls really well, I didnt kiss one for two years. Seriously, I graduated and my last kiss was two years before.I of course still had those crushes, but at that age, just the mindwork and thoughts dont work with girls "that way". And I did have opportunities to take advantage of girls during couple of parties, or once had a shot to take advantage of a girl who was my friend, and I had a crush on her. I didnt do that, for one reason or another I held tight to my principles. I still do, and will never ever take advantage of situation where Im sure that the girl isnt thinking straight.But thats not the point. The point was that I understood this silly line, nice guys finish last. I finally agreed with it. I mean, I had people I knew more and better, than my classmates who didnt knew their girlfriends half as well. I did hold those relationships dear, but as a late teen You do miss the touch of a girl. Sweet and tender kiss, likewise in physical and mental way.So I knew that something's wrong, and though I struggled long under that damn load (I was afraid to really ask even my closest friends about the matter). Then I went to serve in the army for a year, which was totally masculine environment. I lost alot of my weight, but didnt really enjoy the company. Man, its not really good when theres no girl around: Guys talk so much shit. There were just some people with whom one could hold sensible conversations with. But hey, I got used to it and tried to tell myself that it wont change me. It didnt, however it did "teach" me the bigger picture of whats really going on around in the heads of other guys.I loved the military, damn, really did. Id write LONG about it, but Ill spare you the long read.Nevertheless, after coming back home again, and preparing for university, I knew that things have to go different. I was still the same man, but I had gained alot of self-confidence and flat-out started discussing this nice guy thing with two of my closest girl-friends (wanted to know their opinion and not other male-friend opinions for obvious reasons). It was kinda hard for them to talk about it, since they knew that Im the reason why Im asking this, but they did say its about this sexuality.Damn how some people are wrong if they think that sexuality is about this smoothe playboyness, licky talk or whatever. Its really not. They told me its about not just making girl feel special, which is the way of the nice guys anyway (who make a mistake by thinking that this is everything), but also making a woman feel like a "woman", a partner, which, in mating, is both ways biology and psychology.As far as looks are concerned, it doesnt matter much, but Ive talked about this already. People are different, but for a nice-guy person, to get this "girl feel special" thing done and mix it with making her feel like a woman, wekk that is perhaps the key.If nice guys understand this, then.. well, lets see how many years of relationship those partyboys can really last compared with these nice guys.. For the good of "our kind", "nice guy kind", there isnt alot of competition out there on that kind of road.But yeah, all you men, especially young folk, who consider them "nice guys" like I am, dont just neglect sexuality. If you neglect it, its the same thing, and this "lets be just friends" thing will come, because love is not just being totally commited with your heart and soul, its also being commited to the relationship as a man, and her as a woman.Anyways, this is what Ive learned so far. Still young though, so Ill "dig deeper" in the future and learn more Im sure.
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Okay people here are PHOTOS of me, 'Ugly Minger'
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I wasn't gonna post in this thread - but i saw something funny that compelled me to do so.I don't know how it'd show up on everyone else's computers, but on mine, the Topic Reply subject is "Re: okay people here are PHOTOS of me, 'Ugly Minge"...ugly minge made me laugh. I think this is a UK saying - so for those who don't get it - a minge is a vagina. Made me laugh in my own small mind Also I wanted to cull any confusion just in case people think this guy is me - it's not. I happen to think I'm rather fetching even if no-one else does! some people around here have even told me so. Not mentioning any names but you know who you are! Now - onto the topic at hand - I didn't pay attention to the other thread, so I dunno how old "Ugly Minge" (sorry - had to be done) is...but I'm assuming it's around about my age range. I'm a virgin at 21 - sure it bugs me sometimes, but I think to myself "Hey, I can masturbate! It gives the the opportunity for sexual pleasure without having to deal with a girl nagging me!" Also it's free and you don't have to worry about whether Mr Winky is too small or big!.Get over the sex thing - you don't need it.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - my arse! If people think you're ugly, then think of it as being their problem. Find something about them that YOU think makes them ugly. Then tell them! I'm rather bitter and vengeful myself - but it makes for some amusing times!I didn't see your picture - frankly I don't wanna see them. The fact you started a thread solely about your picture is essentially the same as holding a big fluorecscent sign that says "HI! I'M PISSED OFF. PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I THINK I'M UGLY AND I EITHER WANT REASSURANCE, OR I WANT YOU TO AGREE WITH ME SO I HAVE AN EXCUSE TO SHOUT AT YOU"If you care that much - get a paper bag and use it. It worked for the man with the stick!You knew full well when starting this second thread that you'd either get people spouting the "beauty isn't only skin deep" crap, to whom you'd say "waa waa. why don't I get sex then?"oryou'd get shallow people tell you that you are ugly. To which you can then run your mouth about how they must obviously be "hot" to be able to make those comments.So - in conclusion, as some honest and genuinely helpful advice. Drop the "I'm ugly routine" It makes you ugly due to the self-loathing attitude you have. If you forget that you think you look ugly (and yes, it CAN be done, and if you can't do it - you're not trying hard enough) then you'll enjoy yourself more, and then people will notice that you're not a manic depressive self-centred ego-maniac.K?SBT out yo
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I love your posts. Theres so much that goes into them. You just summed up in a post the ideas that Casanova says to his readers. There is middle ground between a total slob/sex animal and a Saint of a Man and that seems to be the key to success in relationships. Very well put Chris. Maybe one day UM will find it and realize that the key to his success was dropping the victim role as SteveA said and start finding relationships with the right body parts: mind and heart.
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I love your posts. Theres so much that goes into them. You just summed up in a post the ideas that Casanova says to his readers. There is middle ground between a total slob/sex animal and a Saint of a Man and that seems to be the key to success in relationships. Very well put Chris.
Ill take this as a compliment, thanks :smirk:
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Look the kind of stereotypical teen girl I was talking about (the ones who are the bitches to me or anyone who don't look good) is the ones who are obsessed with looking like Britney Spears/Cristina Agulleira...okay over in America I think they call them 'trailer trash', but here in England we call them 'CHAVS'.I think both are the same, although I think CHAVs are worse, because they've got the 'bad-boy rapper' attitude, causing trouble everywhere they go and being complete ****s. The girls or 'chavettes' are slags and sluts, very shallow and dirty.You can find out all about them here on this site:http://www.chavscum.co.ukHave a good look. I'm sure you yanks have your fair share of them. There's far too many of them here.
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From what I've seen of "trailer trash" I'd say chavs are 1000% worse.From what I understand, trailer trash is that state because they can't do much else to help it. Low income, poor upbringing etc cause their problems, and they generally don't cause random wanton destruction.Chavs on the other hand choose to be that way. They will walk around, vandalise, set fire to, swear at, defacate on, pester, annoy etc anything they can.The best video example can be seen at www.fat-pie.com/chavs.htmNow this guy was so realistic, I thought he was a genuine chav. Turns out he's an actor - but oh boy is he 100% realistic.Chavs, I'm convinced, are the lowest form of Human life on this planet, if you can call them that.But anyway, that has nothing to do with anything. If girls like that are causing you aggro, you're no different from any other non-chav bloke. These chavettes are ALL like it, to ANYONE. Don't think you're special because you're "ugly" or something. It happens to anyone who isn't wearing burberry and a fat wad of gold chains.I disallow you from using them as a grounds for comparison.
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having taken me ages to read this I thought I would have my little opinion from a good old English bird!!I guess from the replies on here that I am shallow. I will admit to meeting a bloke for the first time and instantly judging if he is what I class as goodlooking or not. I am sorry I can't help it it just happens. I think to a certain extent it is a built in thing that we just can't help. I would have to be attracted to someone physically first before anything else i.e relationship. Every person has a different opinion of what they consider good looking to be. As mentioned before I also believe that personality plays a big part in your attractiveness to someone. If I met a gorgeous bloke with a shit attitude then I would be put off big time. If I met someone who I would not myself consider attractive but had a good personality then if I got to know him I would not discount going out with them although there would have to be some sort of attraction there. I don't think your ugly in my opinion although if I am being honest you seem to attack anyone who gives you an honest opinion so I am dreading your reply to me! If you just relax a little and try not to worry so much there will be someone out there for you! So there is my little thoughts on the subject. Lighten up a bit, smile, you are not ugly!!!Hell if we need to prove it to you get your ass here and you can come out with us and I bet you will find someone who would be attracted to you. Keep smiling xx
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You're all fucking robots. Think for yourself. Who cares about money or power or fame or women or men or anything. You fucking cunts. When you die that's it, no more life, no more anything. Just fucking live for life or kill your fucking self and shut the fuck up.
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I think we all suggest you do the latter
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Keep out of it, you goddamn foetus.
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In reply to:Hell if we need to prove it to you get your ass here and you can come out with us and I bet you will find someone who would be attracted to you. Keep smilingIf that actually happens it should be interesting what your mates have to say when they see me cramping your styles.
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I'd have aborted you :grin:
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You wouldn't cramp our style at all. We go out to have fun as a group and thats what we are. no matter what you look like we are a group and all equal.If you promise to smile and enjoy yourself then that's all you need and you will have a fab time
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He is above the english language he has a language all of his own.Brings the word crap to mind!!
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Where da photos at
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Telecaster? Is that your user name? Here are your posts. In reply to: You're all fucking robots. Think for yourself. Who cares about money or power or fame or women or men or anything. You fucking cunts. When you die that's it, no more life, no more anything. Just fucking live for life or kill your fucking self and shut the fuck up. In reply to:Keep out of it, you goddamn foetus. Are you angry much?Ugly Minger - If I'm not mistaken you said you were 25. If you are 25 years old why are you worried about a teenage girl?If you talk to women in your everyday life like you talk to some of us on here I wouldn't date you either. You're getting mad because people are agreeing with you but that's what you want. You want them to feed your somewhat alarming need to be angry at the female population because the truth is you blame us for your singledom. It's not us. It's you. I had to caution you against cussing at me. Do you cuss at women away from these boards? Your attitude is what's turning women off. You may not be attractive to some people but I didn't see anything wrong with your photos. Period. That's all there was to it. Stop blaming us and get an attitude check.
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Is the subject chavs, or is the subject you getting laid? Because I don't see what they have to do with each other.Lots of things suck: hunger, pollution, chavs, pain, red spots on your penis, powdered eggs, etc. Why single out chavs? If you want to get laid you need to focus on things not on that list.
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In reply to:And you are trying to correct sdp's grammar??? That isn't even a word. Like I've said before, learn how to use a dictionary. "Foetus" is a British variant of "fetus", no1sexpotin[the]USA. The poster is not from your land.So far the English grammar score is:Telecaster 2no1sexpotinusa 0
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what was the other one? i see the foetus..is the other one the missin [the] in her name?
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No. Check out the "Internet Stalkers" thread. I'll give her a pass on the "the'. My user name is not exactly a thing of syntactical beauty.