I would not characterize my response to Damien as upset. I would say I was disapointed. He set a trap for himself. He lacked the ability to laugh it off when I took advantage of it. He was taking himself too seriously.Many of us give accountability. Your responses to me pertaining to this thread attempted to give me accountability. When someone cuts in line, and we say to that person that he/she must be in a hurry, we are given them accountability. If they take it, they are responsible, and act accordingly. I admit freely that I hold others accountable. If they take it, I view them as responsible. I point out to my son that his shirt is on the floor. I am holding him accountable. If he picks up the shirt, he has taken responsibilty. I am then sufficiently impressed with that. If he doesn't take responsibility, I must then force it on him, in part to encourage him to help keep his stuff picked up, and in part, in the larger picture, to assume responsibility for himself on his road to manhood. I am more concerned about an adult who does NOT give accountability. To my mind, these types are droping the ball, ignoring what I consider to be their duty as adults, citizens, neighbors, family etc.My sad, sick, warped sense of humer permeates almost everrything I write, especially on this thread. To be serious requires either anger or sorrow, both of which is a draining emotional investement. I am happy to keep my laugh lines, and try to avoid furrows plowed across my forehead.I have not assumed the responsibilities of elder statesman on my other forum, so to speak, it is more that folks defer to me based on familiarity and the number of my posts. As some defer to me, I take that semi-seriously. I know the limits of any power granted to me, and don't overstep. Some newbies even phrase their responses in terms of my posts, such as " I don't care how many posts you have or how long you have been here...", so as with most other things, numbers do matter (except with regard to penis length. It is all in how ya use it...right ladies?). And of course, I NEVER suggest on that site that I am an elder statesman. That would be suicidal. This is probobly not the time to mention that I beleive we influence other without even meaning too, in ways we cannot even begin to know or understand, given the complexity of the human mind, the way info is processed, and the lack of shared experience. . I know for a fact that it is fairly easy to manipulate others (in person) since many, many folks are sheep and sadly,tragically unaware of what is happening around them