CANT TAKE THIS!

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SO let me get this straight.The idea I got wasHe "violated her"She still wants to talk to him despite his "molestation" of her.This is pissing you off because some girl is holding it over your gfs head.And your pissed because she is stupid enough to still talk to him after all this.If What I have said is correct then just walk away now. Causeo odds are your never going to be able to give her the help she needs.

Originally Posted By: NnySO let me get this straight.The idea I got wasHe "violated her"She still wants to talk to him despite his "molestation" of her.This is pissing you off because some girl is holding it over your gfs head.And your pissed because she is stupid enough to still talk to him after all this.If What I have said is correct then just walk away now. Causeo odds are your never going to be able to give her the help she needs. 'you have it correct.I don't want to leave her though. Right now she has me on the phone 3-way calling with her ex, diff one.. and she told em to mute my phone, so I did, and he's being a dick, I'm about to go over to his house at this point...

Have you sat down and talk to her, one on one, and asked her why she's doing all this? It's obviously making you crazy, so how does she feel about that?

Look dude if that story is in any way true.. My advice is bail out now.If She had any common sense she would have never spoken to him again.And no offence dude.. but, she isn't worth it. I don't want to float myself up or give myself more credit then I deserve however, If I like someone and they like me and I think the relationship has any shot in hell of working then I'm in it for the long haul.You can read some of my past threads about my ex if you doubt me. However, I do know when to draw the line. Take it from me man... I will bend over backwards to make relationships work but, I wouldn't touch that one.I was in a similar position not long ago..I liked a girl and I think she liked me.. problem is she liked a druggie. I talked to her about it. twice. After that I said "its her life".There is nothing wrong with trying. but, when the evidence is clear someone isn't going to change.. then its not worth trying to change them. Odds are anything I say isn't going to change your mind if your already preset on it. Infact I would go so far to say that if you are determined enough then your just coming to us for concent to say "yeah beat the shit out of that mother fucker".However, in the event your not and your truely here for advice... then realise this odds are your girlfriend has already made up in her mind what she wants. Whether she realises it or not. And your not going to change her. She is going to get hurt and she is doing it to herself.How do I know? because I have been there. chased a girl for a year who let me lead myself on. And I just had it preset in my mind it was ment to be nothing anyone could say would talk sense into me. I had to deal with the girl who had it in her mind the druggie was the one she was ment for and that she would change him. I don't think she has yet.The simple fact of the matter is.. she is gunna get hurt. You can't stop it. And if she comes to you.. its probably going to be after she gets hurt and its going to be odd because you told her it would happen and she didn't listen.I'm a pretty understanding guy.. however, I'm not going out of my way to stop people from hurting themselves again. I might talk with em a couple times.. but, after that it really is pointless.If she was sick? I'd be there for her. Hurt? I'd help her. There is nothign wrong with being there for people. I want to be able to be there for my friends and my more intimate relationships. However, when people make up their mind.. they will justify what they are doing in their head some way.. some how its going to seem right to them one way or another.. they will ALWAYS have an excuse a reason. No matter how twisted and warped it is.. it will make perfect sense to them.Odds are your girlfriend is like that and she won't change. Nothing you can do. Sorry to say it. But, please man Bail out now. I have way too much experience with that kinda stuff first hand.

One thing i have to say is dont go try to fight that 20 year old or w.e he is. Ppl are nuts now days he could pull a knife or something, and chances are he will whoop ur ass so what if u get seriously injured? Its not worth it for a girl like the one ur describing, tbh she sounds like a typical idiot teenager, sorry to be harsh.

she seems to be a drama queen.why in the hell would she have you muted on a three way call to her ex??? is she testing you to see if you will try and fight them or what???? thats so freaking STUPID! she needs to grow up.

kinda sounds to me that shes getting some kind of kick watching you squirm.I could be wrong, as I dont know either of you. But girls (and guys) can be very manipulative, and she may be testing who will go the furthest for you.Keep us posted.But do not go after this dude, unless you have some friends who could be a problem for you.Still not great advice...but ah i tried

Originally Posted By: Megadeth90One thing i have to say is dont go try to fight that 20 year old or w.e he is. Ppl are nuts now days he could pull a knife or something, and chances are he will whoop ur ass so what if u get seriously injured? Its not worth it for a girl like the one ur describing, tbh she sounds like a typical idiot teenager, sorry to be harsh. It's all good, you weren't being harsh, but I know I could take this dude, no prob.Well, everything is fine.. Last night we argued about it, I told her I hate how she talks to her ex's still, and we got into it, because of a miss-conception of words over the phone. But we worked it out, today she came over and we were awesome. It went awesome too!! =]She is giving up on talking to her ex's. She's stopping for me, because she doesn't want to lose me, or see me hurt.Okay, the 19 year old dude Alex, I'm fine with him, what happened... happened. She told me that he pressured her, but didn't MAKE her, he just kept asking her, and asking her until she finally said yes.But... As far as Collin goes, the guy who I was on the phone with 3-way calling when I was on mute..he has no right to talk to my girl that way, or my best friend Ariana. HE is going to get his ass whooped when he comes back from Texas, I had problems with him in the beginning of the school year, and he wanted to fight me, but he backed down... After that, he tried to become friends with me, and I went with ti, and I had no problems with him, until the phone call... I even put aside what he did to my girl when they were dating. After the first day he went down on her with his hand, then cheated on her the same day! =/ But Collin... Oh damn.. he's pretty fucked!

Just came across a similar situation: Good guy, bad girl, and crackhead exboyfriend. Bad girl messes around with crackhead while good guy is at work. Friends and family all advise good guy to get out while he still can, but he thinks he can change bad girl. One night bad girl lets crackhead into the house after good guy is asleep.Good guy is shot dead in his sleep and crackhead is headed to prison. Good guy's family is devastated. The story usually always ends this way.

Originally Posted By: readytogoJust came across a similar situation: Good guy, bad girl, and crackhead exboyfriend. Bad girl messes around with crackhead while good guy is at work. Friends and family all advise good guy to get out while he still can, but he thinks he can change bad girl. One night bad girl lets crackhead into the house after good guy is asleep.Good guy is shot dead in his sleep and crackhead is headed to prison. Good guy's family is devastated. The story usually always ends this way. Wow! Well, the only thing is I trust her, the only mistake she was doing was not saying no.She is such an amazing person, and for once a girl cared about me, I can't just get out of this. It's human nature to not want to hear about past encounters with someone you love I care about her too much to rid myself of her, and she cares too much about me to just go on her path, and not give two shits about my feelings.it's just the whole past experiences should have STAYED in the past, correct?

withmyheart,I work with a nephew of the guy who was killed and I mentioned to him today about this thread. The nephew immediately asked if I was able to talk directly to you, but I explained that this is an anonymous bulletin board. He said, "Well tell him to get away from her". And so I am.She can't help what was done to her, but to continue to interact with the pervert indicates that she's not entirely unhappy with what happened. Until she'll break those chains, I'm afraid that I would have to counsel you that you're too good for her. Find a girl who will appreciate a good guy. There are many out there.

scotty first I want to say to you, I am NOT damaged goods, I was born fucked up.you can call me fucked up, but dont insist Im damaged.second to you, megatdeth, a couple others I forget t names of right now...age and size means jack shit in a fight.nevr let that stop you if its a situation that you really need to fight.I was 16 and wrestling in the 98 lobs and under class in high school. and I beat the dog fuck out of the asshole next door. He was right around 200 lbs, a good foot taller than me, and in his 40s. Iv beat the fucking shit out of people younger and older than me, age and size have NOTHING to do with the ability to fight.Im 36 now, just under 160 lbs, and 5'11" and Iv whooped this shit out of people that go near 250 to 300 lbs, people that are in shape and out of shape and jsut fat, people older, younger stronger, Iv broken thier fucking bones and left them in tears and covered in piss.None of it matters, what matters is knowing how to hurt people and having the speed to do it. Most of the times I get into a fight its with 2 or 3 people against me and I rarely come out on bottom.size and age mean nothing.Now having said that, and as a violent person myself, let me talk to the OP....GROW THE FUCK UP.damaged goods...pushaw, what the fuck is wrong with you?My will be wife was raped at one point, her self esteem was shot nearly to hell when I met her, she was near broke and being able to live because of food stamps.Your atitude fucking sucks.I took care of her, always propped her up, always reinforced how god damned pretty she was and smart. She will graduate August 5th with a degree, 2 years from then, she will have her bachelors, she hasnt been on the welfare for a long time now, no food stamps, no hand outs, just a hand up from me.She still doesnt think shes very pretty, but she knows that I think she is, and she finally belives in herself and knows shes smart.In fact I give her full credit for being smarter than I am and Im not exactly fucking stupid.Life is what you make it, and to view someone as damaged goods because you where not the first to get there is fucking retarded.My will be wife, has 4 kids when I met her, I sure as hell wasnt eh first one to get in there.3 from her marriage, and then one that some asshole after knocking her up, disapeared and has never so much as seen his son, let alone got to enjoy him at all.Iv been that boys dad since he was 6 months old when I met her, hes going to be 4 on the 4th of July. In the morning Im taking him to a big ass amusment park to ride rides, play in the water park, and fuck off a day. Im his dad, the onyl one hes ever known and ever will know, we currently have the search on for the sperm donor, only because we have to attempt to contact him before I can adopt him. a few ads in some papers, and a few months go by and hes mine by default. If we do find the piece of shit Im betting the 6 grand he owes in back childsupport being forgiven by signing the papers will convince him pretty quikly that he has no place in stepping up to be a father now.Is she damaged goods?shes a lil fucked up, she has to be to be with me.Id break someones fucking neck for calling her damaged, or for talking hte slightest bit of shit about my son. Iv nailed alot of girls in my life, more than youv dated I fucked, count blow jobs and that numbre sky rockets, hand jobs and that numbre jumps several more. Iv fucked more girls than your talked to let alone dated.of all of those only 2 were virgens.some of them were fucked up, most of them were in one way or another, but I never viewed any of them as damaged goods.If you really gave a shit about her, your feelings would die because of what she told you.your a selfish fucking child. get off your fucking high horse and join the human race, everyone fucks up, everyone has something in the past they wish didnt happen.She has the fucking guts to tell you about her shit, and you curse her over it? I dont love her anymore, but Im going to beat his ass.your a fucking child, and I dont care how old you are. a self centered prick. If you cared about her at all youd try to sit down and talk to her and explain why you get so pised about her dealing with him.If he returned to town and got on yuor ass then youd have a actual reason to fight him.Till then SHE HAS TO DECIDE if what happened was forced, and if it was report it to police, file charges, follow up on shit. Noone can force her to do it, and she has to ocme to the decision on her own.As for anyone eles treating my girl like shit, Id break a few fucking ribs, let em hurt with every breath, split the eye socket, a nice big scar and a broken nose and a few miossing teeth makes peopel think for the rest of thier lives about who they fucked with.I dont talk about beating peoples ass, I jsut do it as the need arises. Iv been stabbed 2 times, and shot once, Iv been in more fights than youv ever seen in all the movies you ever watched, I know im a bad mother fucker, some would even say fucked up, but atleast Im not such a selfish piece of shit as to dump on a girl that cares about me and trusted me enough to tell me somethign like that. after she tiold me that all my love for her died that night....if that were true you never loved her to begin with and need to stay the fuck awya from her before you drag her down anymore.

Originally Posted By: Grvtykllrscotty first I want to say to you, I am NOT damaged goods, I was born fucked up.you can call me fucked up, but dont insist Im damaged.second to you, megatdeth, a couple others I forget t names of right now...age and size means jack shit in a fight.nevr let that stop you if its a situation that you really need to fight.I was 16 and wrestling in the 98 lobs and under class in high school. and I beat the dog fuck out of the asshole next door. He was right around 200 lbs, a good foot taller than me, and in his 40s. Iv beat the fucking shit out of people younger and older than me, age and size have NOTHING to do with the ability to fight.Im 36 now, just under 160 lbs, and 5'11" and Iv whooped this shit out of people that go near 250 to 300 lbs, people that are in shape and out of shape and jsut fat, people older, younger stronger, Iv broken thier fucking bones and left them in tears and covered in piss.None of it matters, what matters is knowing how to hurt people and having the speed to do it. Most of the times I get into a fight its with 2 or 3 people against me and I rarely come out on bottom.size and age mean nothing.Now having said that, and as a violent person myself, let me talk to the OP....GROW THE FUCK UP.damaged goods...pushaw, what the fuck is wrong with you?My will be wife was raped at one point, her self esteem was shot nearly to hell when I met her, she was near broke and being able to live because of food stamps.Your atitude fucking sucks.I took care of her, always propped her up, always reinforced how god damned pretty she was and smart. She will graduate August 5th with a degree, 2 years from then, she will have her bachelors, she hasnt been on the welfare for a long time now, no food stamps, no hand outs, just a hand up from me.She still doesnt think shes very pretty, but she knows that I think she is, and she finally belives in herself and knows shes smart.In fact I give her full credit for being smarter than I am and Im not exactly fucking stupid.Life is what you make it, and to view someone as damaged goods because you where not the first to get there is fucking retarded.My will be wife, has 4 kids when I met her, I sure as hell wasnt eh first one to get in there.3 from her marriage, and then one that some asshole after knocking her up, disapeared and has never so much as seen his son, let alone got to enjoy him at all.Iv been that boys dad since he was 6 months old when I met her, hes going to be 4 on the 4th of July. In the morning Im taking him to a big ass amusment park to ride rides, play in the water park, and fuck off a day. Im his dad, the onyl one hes ever known and ever will know, we currently have the search on for the sperm donor, only because we have to attempt to contact him before I can adopt him. a few ads in some papers, and a few months go by and hes mine by default. If we do find the piece of shit Im betting the 6 grand he owes in back childsupport being forgiven by signing the papers will convince him pretty quikly that he has no place in stepping up to be a father now.Is she damaged goods?shes a lil fucked up, she has to be to be with me.Id break someones fucking neck for calling her damaged, or for talking hte slightest bit of shit about my son. Iv nailed alot of girls in my life, more than youv dated I fucked, count blow jobs and that numbre sky rockets, hand jobs and that numbre jumps several more. Iv fucked more girls than your talked to let alone dated.of all of those only 2 were virgens.some of them were fucked up, most of them were in one way or another, but I never viewed any of them as damaged goods.If you really gave a shit about her, your feelings would die because of what she told you.your a selfish fucking child. get off your fucking high horse and join the human race, everyone fucks up, everyone has something in the past they wish didnt happen.She has the fucking guts to tell you about her shit, and you curse her over it? I dont love her anymore, but Im going to beat his ass.your a fucking child, and I dont care how old you are. a self centered prick. If you cared about her at all youd try to sit down and talk to her and explain why you get so pised about her dealing with him.If he returned to town and got on yuor ass then youd have a actual reason to fight him.Till then SHE HAS TO DECIDE if what happened was forced, and if it was report it to police, file charges, follow up on shit. Noone can force her to do it, and she has to ocme to the decision on her own.As for anyone eles treating my girl like shit, Id break a few fucking ribs, let em hurt with every breath, split the eye socket, a nice big scar and a broken nose and a few miossing teeth makes peopel think for the rest of thier lives about who they fucked with.I dont talk about beating peoples ass, I jsut do it as the need arises. Iv been stabbed 2 times, and shot once, Iv been in more fights than youv ever seen in all the movies you ever watched, I know im a bad mother fucker, some would even say fucked up, but atleast Im not such a selfish piece of shit as to dump on a girl that cares about me and trusted me enough to tell me somethign like that. after she tiold me that all my love for her died that night....if that were true you never loved her to begin with and need to stay the fuck awya from her before you drag her down anymore. Okay, I totally agree with what you said, except that's not the case.I do have feelings for her, I do honestly love her, it's just the manner she told me, and I don't even want to get into that. Well, It got out, and I figured out what she was thinking. Shit between us is TOTALLY fine now. I've learned to over-look what happen. I never pictured her as damaged goods, her ex bf's treated her like shit, basically used her, and now she has very low self esteem because of that. I would kill for her, and when these fucking immature kids walk over her, and make her feel like she is worthless, then I'm fucking ready to break jaws. I didn't mean to make this thread, and portray her as a bad person, but to get people's opinions on why she was still talking to her ex's. there is A LOT of detail I left out of this thread, for the sole purpose that It was too hard to write about.we had a BIG fight 2 night's ago, and we worked out our shit. I told her what I thought about all of this, and it got really bad, but it only can go down so far, before it headed back up, then after it was all said and done, we found ourself closer to each other then before. as of right now, after all the tears, all the pain inside, I see her prospective, and understand that the only reason she talks to Alex, the 19 year old guy still, is because her best friend who she knew for 7 years now is his younger sister.But as for Collin, that fucker's gonna be spitting teeth after what he told her on the phone when we were 3-way calling, there is shit I left out because it's too hard to type it, and thinking about it makes me just want to break every single one of his ribs, and kick his fucking teeth in. And I know who I can take on, and who I cant. Over the past 3 years, I really figured out my limitations, and how far I can go, and even if I don't think I can take someone in a fight, I don't fucking care.... nobody is going to talk shit about my girl and get away with it.I'm so sorry if i came off as someone who thinks because that happened to her, she looks different in my eyes, because that is NOT the case, the thing was she thought that I did, so she go into it with me.Everyone does things they "regret" and some things they did, and claim to "regret" I care about her soo much, and to see people dragging her down makes me so fucking upset, and I'm not standing by and watching it.

Look dude. No offence.. but, you don't sound like you have ever taken a martial arts class in your life. You don't sound like you have any vague Idea how to fuck someone up.If you honestly plan on fighting then I STRONGLY suggest you take this into consideration. If you even TRY to swing at me. I can break your arm unless your fast. Anyone with basic knowlege and alittle bit of practice at martial arts can. So.. it really makes me reconsider ever fighting. So if I ever get mad enough to fight its because I know I very well may get my ass whooped and its worth it because I have some shot in hell of winning and they reallly deserve whatever they get.However, I still stand by what I said early. I think your being played like a fiddle.

your first problem is knowing who you can and cant take...You dont know that till you try. Just because I kick your ass today doesnt mean you cant beat me tomorrow. There is no set rules, there is no reason to predecide who can be beat and who cant be beat because you never really know what someone is made of till you try them.Your orignal post comes off as you thinking less of her because of what happened instead of jsut being pissy about her talking to her x's.If that wasnt your intent you need to write it, then reread it and try to remember that we dont have the benifit of being you and knowing what your thinking, reread and make sure that your saying what you want when you hit the submit button.That now being cleared up do what ya gotta do, I never let anyone no matter thier size or ability intimidate me.I never took martial arts, I learned to fight by fighting. Iv beat the dog shit out of more than one person that thought they wre bad because they took martial arts, I never let thier training stop me from attempting what I intend to do.Most talk is jsut talk and trying to intimidate and back you down.FUck that shit, I never decide Ill win or lose before I try, I jsut try and someone talking shit to my girl or my kids is more than enough reason for me to give it a try..