Guys having sex with thier older brothers.

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I'm not perfect, never will be, and will never claim to be. And I know that my sexual activity is against the bible. That doesn't make mme a hypocrite.Well, it doesn't make you a concert violinist. What does it make you? It doesn't make you a good Chrisitan either. I thought a Christian follows the teachings of Jesus, as described in the New Testament. If you can pick and choose whatever feels good, then a serial killer can consider himself to be a good Christian. It all becomes quite meaningless.By the way, more Christians should familiarize themselves with the contents of the Sermon on the Mount.> I think it unnaturalFor no reason that you seem to be able to put into words. Is it a bible thing?> but nevertheless I don't care if you are"I think what you do us unnatural, but I'm fine with you." I see.> 60% of my patientsWTF do you mean "my patients"? Are you Doogie Howser, MD?Why do you have so many more friends and "patients" who are gay than would be expected by their representation in the population, especially in Virginia? Do you work in a gay bar?

I just have a hard time understanding that you are a beliver the bible, yet your own lifestyle goes against it? It doesn't have to be a huge long post. I am just confused how you pick and choose what you want to believe out of the bible. Don't make long posts, it's not complicated. Your the one who brought it up though.According to you, I guess I could consider myself a Christian too, however I would rather be straight before becoming a Christian.

This is really getting off topic. If you want to argue and debate over the matter, do so through a personal message.

"Guys having sex with their brother" is not biblical? How about guys having sex with their brothers' wives?

I have no intrest in arguing or debating. I just want to know how you can pick and choose what is right and what is wrong?Nothing complicated, just read the posts. I haven't followed the Christian faith, so I was not aware of thier believers (if you can call them that), able to point fingers. Use the bible and say "point out the rod in thier neighbours eye, rahter than thier own". Just an observation...

In reply to: however I would rather be straight before becoming a Christian. that's real nice.

Japan, I was kidding. I don't know which would be worse?

What's wrong with being straight?

The fact that your (supposedly) straight. It may associate me with your beliefs.

Sexual orientation and beliefs following each other? You're just the other side of the coin of that bible thumper. You're no different.

Yes, I know Steve. Don't ask me how I got in that mess. I am off to get food. I'll be back to torment everyone lata.

I know you were kidding. the sentence just caught me off guard lol

NYyankeeboi,

This is my first post to this Board. I chose to reply to your question because I've had experience with a similar situation myself, rather than just random thoughts or moralistic opinion. Perhaps that experience will be of some use to you.

When he was about your age, my younger brother decided he had a "crush" on me. I felt it best, given all the circumstances, to discourage his youthful enfatuation. But I didn't come down on him like the wrath of Zeus. I certainly didn't brush him off or tell him he was "weird" or "sick" or anything of that nature.

I think it's perfectly natural for some young men to have crushes on older same-sex siblings or other relatives, such as cousins. Adolescence isn't usually the most rational - or romantically orthodox - period in a person's life. It certainly isn't a time when a person can call upon a host of personal life experiences to guide him (or her) through various feelings and emotions. It's very easy to develop crushes during this period - on fellow students, teachers, neighbours, relatives, the milkman ... anyone in fact that a person knows on a sufficiently familiar basis to plant the seed of a romantic fantasy. As I told my brother at the time, I think many of the powerful adolescent feelings of affection that seem like sexual or romantic attraction are usually a result of proximity combined with a natural shortfall of experience and self-knowledge. Mix those ingredients with a geyser of teenage hormones, and it's possible to concoct a bubbling mixture that could leave self-licensed moral theorists gasping in the fumes. At a certain age, we often find that our first physical attractions are to someone who is both close to us and a bit older than we are. During adolescence, when sexual feelings pop out of nowhere and start screaming at us, familiarity and admiration can sometimes confuse us as being a full-fledged romantic (or just plain sexual) attraction. That's to be expected. Such early attractions, even if somewhat out of the ordinary, are usually part of how we begin learn to honestly and maturely love another person.

To get back to my brother's case, he did mope around for a while after I "rejected" his "romantic" aspirations. But he moved on emotionally and developed, as most young people do. In his case, in fact, it didn't take him too long to realise that he wasn't actually attracted to members of his own sex at all. It's just that for a while, he was vulnerable to new feelings and an assault of hormones; under the circumstances, he understandably mistook a very close and otherwise sympathetic "target" (me) for a sexual love object. (I'm not saying this is necessarily the case with you. It's just that adolescent passions can sometimes be a little more randomly directed than is the case once they mature for a couple of years.)

To close this, I'm completely confident that your feelings are normal and natural for you and to the situation you find yourself in at this point in your own emotional and sexual development. I've known a few brothers (and cousins) who "experimented" with each other when they were young and who, years later, are none the worse for it. Most, not surprisingly, are now married; they simply smile and shrug off such experimentation as a part of their growing up. Some others did discover that they really were Gay as they long suspected, but that their early attraction to a sibling was more a passing fancy than anything more serious or permanent. Putting all thundering moral judgements and condemnations aside as the hollow ivory-tower fulminations they always are, "a part of growing up" is precisely what I think your particular situation really boils down to. Have a good long talk with yourself about your feelings for your brother, be as honest with yourself as you can be, and I think you'll do very well in dealing with your feelings in a manner that's appropriate for you and your own circumstances.

My apologies for being so long-winded. I think your question deserved some time and effort in drafting a response.

Best wishes,
Adrianus

That is a lovely, well thought out and deeply touching response. If only there were more like you out there. :smile:

Well said, Adrianus. I believe yankeeboi must read your post really carefully and reconsider his thoughts...In my humble opinion, I think sometimes you must tame your passion and desires in the name of other's happiness. NYyankeeboi, you must avoid having sex with your brother. Otherwise, you set at risk your family's balance and happiness. Plz, try thinking rational here and you'll see what's the best for all of you. Sex is something easily to be found and you can get it from anywhere. Your brothers are unique and you'll always need their support. So, don't mess up with your brother.

and when am I supposed to do that, being high all the time, jeez. I have been over my bro, let the thread sleep now...whew...

This thread of mine is still alive? jeez...

yet another old and dead thread you brought back to the top of the list for no reason.Are you just stupid or is there a reason for this?