No left behind child law

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Omg this law really stinks! lol sorry but I really think it does. I'm probably old hat for not knowing about this law before but I think it's unfair to some kids, students who work hard to be specific. I don't think it's right that they have this law because I just see it as two kids in the same class. One kid is working hard and passing all his tests and getting good grades but the other kid doesn't care at all and fails everything but he still moves on to the next grade along with the other kid who trys hard. I don't think that's fair at all. With this new law out where's the motivation for students to try hard and get good grades? They are spoiling them. Usually there is a fear among kids that if they don't do well in school they get left back and then they figure they won't be with their friends or whatever and that gives them the "urge" to work hard and try their best. But with this law what's the point. It doesn't even matter now there's absolutely no motivation at all. I just think it stinks. And so do the people who came up with the idea... and so does new york lol. I'm kidding but it still sucks. Why can't they come up with a law that actually "helps"?

Are you saying that the "No Child Left Behind" law force teachers to pass everyone to the next grade? I think you've been getting your news from The Onion.

Well that's what I just read in the paper today while trying to look for an article for my editorial. That they have this law about not letting any child get left behind. Is this wrong or something? I hope. Let me know.

I'm not saying that the act is good or bad (OK, it had problems), but the "left behind" does not mean left a grade behind. It means not to neglect any child, even childen who are socioeconomically disadvantaged. In other words, no child should miss the proverbial boat. But "No child missing the proverbial boat" doesn't have the ring that "No child left behind" has.One of the main parts of the act is that it requires all students everywhere to pass a uniform set of tests.This is what the Education Commission of the States says about NCLB...it's a pretty idealize interpretation:In reply to:The No Child Left Behind (NCLB) Act of 2001, the revised Elementary and Secondary Education Act, is a potent blend of new requirements, incentives and resources, and it poses significant challenges for states.The law sets deadlines for states to expand the scope and frequency of student testing, revamp their accountability systems and guarantee that every teacher is qualified in their subject area. NCLB requires states to make demonstrable annual progress in raising the percentage of students proficient in reading and math, and in narrowing the test-score gap between advantaged and disadvantaged students. At the same time, the new law increases funding in several areas, including K-3 reading programs and before- and after-school programs, and provides states with greater flexibility to use federal funds as they see fit.NCLB is an ambitious law and forces states to move faster and further to improve the achievement of every student. Perhaps the combination of NCLB’s tight timelines and high expectations and existing state education agendas will prove successful where past reform efforts have fallen short.

Oh ok thanks.

i think in california the schools have been treating the law the same way that japanfan described it. I know some really really stupid ass kids that dont deserve to graduate but the schools pushed to graduate them to get them the hell out. What ever happened to just kicking the students out of school?!

There's been a similar trend here too. Although they do fail some kids, there's this whole touchy-feely thing where errors aren't corrected in an aim to preserve the student's self esteem.Fortunately, the provence has added standardised testing. Many people object to it, especially the teachers' union. After all, a failing grade might reflect poorly on the teacher rather than the student.

That cant happen in Cali anymore... 'Calfornia High School Exit Exam' CAHSEE for short... Unless they approve the 'alternative test'

A lot of states now have standardized tests that you have to pass in order to get a (regular) high school diploma.The guy that the Bush adiministration chose to put the NCLB program together came from Texas (I don't recall his position...I think he was a school district superintendent), and was chosen specifically for the success he demonstrated in improving the achievement of his students. Ironically, it turned out that the way they did it was to kick the "underachievers" out of the system. When taking that into account, it turns out that his reforms didn't do sh*t.Political appointees...you see the same thing in FEMA. Either Amercian students are screwed, or the residents of Louisiana and Mississippi are screwed, but someone always gets screwed.

At the school I went to you had to take a TASP test in order to graduate. You took it your junior year, and if you failed it you had three (one in the fall, spring, and summer) chances to re-take the test your senior year. If a student failed it again, you had to repeat your senior year again.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to think teachers aren't really teaching their students anymore. You have no idea how many students come into the store I work who cannot count money or write a check. Now that was something I learned to do in 4th grade. Maybe they just don't teach that anymore but I thought they did. There are other things that make me wonder what the teachers are teaching these students for 8 hrs a day... it deffinatly doesn't seem to be anything useful. It amazes me how little these kids know now days.

I agree with ya, I honestly dont know what teachers are doing with the students for 8 hours each day because they arent teaching. The students around here rarely ever have homework and when they have exams they just copy off each other and the teachers dont bust them for it.

Sometimes it's not the teachers fault; the students are just exceptionally stupid and are prone to cheating (but I'm not saying that ALL cheaters are stupid, and that ALL stupid people are cheaters).

Our school does everything a little screwy. Nothing is exactly clear..basically you need 2 math credits, 2 science credits, 4 PE Credits, 2 social science credits, 2.5 English credits, and then elective all totalling to 24. You can slip one credit, and still graduate, and with 22 they'll let you walk with your graduating class, but you won't techically graduate until January. As juniors we are required to take the MEAP test, with this test the school disctrit has the opition of it being a requirement for graduation, well nothing is set in stone, so that keeps going back in forth, like this year..you take the MEAP..and have 40 hours of community serivce...you get a 400 dollar scholarship, next year, they are changing it again.I don't know about other schools, but atleast here, I think it's a little messed up that you have to fight and aruge to get more than 2 years of science and math, and that there are only 3 AP classes for the whole school.So before my school goes issueing this test saying you have to pass it to graduate, they need to teach us what's on the test.And with NCLB I think it's another case of...they were trying to do the right thing...but it didn't work out..because they didn't think it through. They've looked at students as a body, not as an individual, atleast thats how I saw it.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to think teachers aren't really teaching their students anymore.I totally, totally agree with you. A lot of companies need to have remedial classes in basic skills so their new employees can function at a reasonable level. Maybe the teachers deserve some of the blame, but there are really big problems with the whole system. American students have fallen way behind those in most other countries with large economies, especially in math and science. As the economy becomes even more dependent on technology, we will be in big trouble.

it's not the techers' fault as much as it is the union's fault.Unions' revalence died nearly a hundred years ago. If you don't want to work for a living, work for a union.So tell me; do you want your child taught by a dedicated teacher of a self-absorbed union member?