Is this the best course of action?

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Well I'm sure u all know the story by now... I'm simply crazy about this girl and it wasn't getting anywhere because she had a boyfriend..she broke up with him. I found some text in one of our conversations that pretty much says she likes me:Me: Truthfully I don’t know why u have such an effect on me maybe it’s genetics, maybe it’s your exquisite smile, your exhilarating eyes, or your kindred spirit. All I know is every time I talk to u, I want to be a better person, someone of equal stature compared to u.Her: zach have you have got to be one of the sweetest people I know. I've never had anyone say that nice of stuff to me ever once in my lifebut then there's also this:Me: I was thinking about you while I was biking and I thought to myself ... why should I let myself get emotionally degraded by trying so hard and not getting anywhere ... I guess what I'm really trying to say is do I have a chance or not because it would help me out a bit here if I knew.Her: well to tell you the truth, no.. I really like Josh and if Josh and I were to break up, I'd want to be single how long, and I just think of you as a friendMe: that's ok, I understandHer: I'm sorryMe: Sigh, you are a goddess what was I thinking trying to win someone over who is forever wise and beautiful, I'm nothing more than a mere peasant who has to deal with life's everyday disturbances and hardships.Her: you're way too nice to me, I'm sorryOkay now, I've thought about it and I decided that I'm going to make a move on her tomorrow. I'm going to tell her how I truly feel. I decided that if I'm going to do this I should say something about her not being ready to move on. Plz.. do not give me any crap about her not liking me I reread all of our conversations, lol, yep I'm nuts.. well neways I know she likes me. This is what I have so far as what I'm going to say tomorrow:So many things have been on my mind lately I simply don’t know where to start. The beginning sounds good. Mid-January I had a dream about a girl that looked a lot like Mandy Moore. The following day in school was when I first spotted you and my mouth literally dropped it was her, it was the girl in my dream. That same day I went to China Dragon to eat and my fortune said, “A beautiful, smart, and loving person will be coming into your life.” I believed the dream and the fortune were visions and I believe visions are signs to go after great things. It was a Friday and the next day I was going to Cancun with my friend Rex. That wasn’t a fun vacation since my second day there I was informed of Lindsey’s accident. I was so angry that I couldn’t be there after all she once again reminded me that I had the validity to get someone as great as her. Strange isn’t it how the past although tainted can remind a person that potential exists in them self. Thursday of that week I told Rex about you and I proclaimed that I would go up and ask you out right on the spot because no one does that anymore. Then everyday for 2 weeks straight I proclaimed to myself that today would be the day today I was going to go up to you and ask you out. Yet my shyness prevailed every single day. I realized I couldn’t overcome my ignorant self and I pointed you out to Cody. He and Kelly Robinson simply insisted on getting your name that day way back when and I went away because yet again my shyness won. It’s so hard to say this but I have to get it out. Then, I remember Cody going up to you and asking for your email and myself saying to him I don’t care if you get it, when I really did care, I wanted to get to know you more so bad. Then the very first time I talked to you I remember you repeatedly asking me how I chose you, how I picked you out from all of the other girls. The truth is you’re just so beautiful every time I see your face, your kindred spirit, picturesque smile, and your eyes oh your eyes green like nature that give off the vibe of a fairy, your have an overall eloquence of beauty. A fairy that’s blessed with great character, knowledge, and wisdom. Whenever I’m done talking to you I feel like jumping off the wall. You have no idea how great of an effect you have on me. The reason why I’m saying this is because I realized I haven’t even begun to tell you how I truly feel. I’ve barely breached the depths of my heart. Everyday when I get up I say to myself today will be the day, today I will impress her somehow. When I first started talking to youI remember you saying you wish someone would watch you while you sleep to make sure you’re covered with blankets and to wake you from a bad dream, I’ll be here… Why? I’ll be waiting here… For What? I’ll be waiting for u so. If you come here you’ll find me. I promise. Sry about the length. Plz tell me if I'm taking the best course of action by doing this or not.

Umm I'm not seeing any part of it where she says she likes you and isn't this pretty much the same exact conversation you've posted multiple times? I think you need to backoff. If a guy came on me to like that I would be totally scared away.

Yes, I think it is scary. You can't understand "no" when it's clearly in front of you, Weapon.

the word that sticks out in my mind is "stalker"

wtf, seriously...There's a big difference between having a really bad crush on someone and being a stalker, jeese. Seriously though, I told u not to elaborate on whether she likes me or not because I know she does. Elaborate on saying that so soon when she broke up with her boyfriend tuesday. Why is it scary? The reason for putting the chance thing on there is because she said, if we broke up I'd want to be single how long... btw I know that if it turns out she doesn't like me(unlikely, don't question my validity on the subject either) I will be heart broken but I need to do this to find out for sure.

skip over this part or what?Me: Truthfully I don’t know why u have such an effect on me maybe it’s genetics, maybe it’s your exquisite smile, your exhilarating eyes, or your kindred spirit. All I know is every time I talk to u, I want to be a better person, someone of equal stature compared to u.Her: zach have you have got to be one of the sweetest people I know. I've never had anyone say that nice of stuff to me ever once in my life

She's not saying she likes you in "that way" in that part. You need to chill. That is going to scare girls away.

Jesus, did I not say don't question my validity. That's only one example you haven't read the whole 80+ pages so plz just answer my question is it to early to make a move or not.

Oh I've read it all. Don't make the move at all! Like ineligible said, you don't know how to take the word "no".

One thing that the past few weeks have taught me is that girls will say things to you that make you think they want you, hell, they may even say they want you! But the simple honest truth is that they don't.They think it's frickin great fun to get a guys hopes up and then smack them down lower than they've been.The simple fact of the matter is this:While she seems to like you, it really is JUST as a friend. When you told her what you felt, she said all that gumph about that josh guy, and then said she wants to be single.Effectively shes saying "no way jack". You'll probably find out that she'll be with some other outlaw biker within 7 days or so. When she says she wants to be single, it's just her 'polite' way of saying "I don't wanna go out with you"You're gonna lose her as a friend if you don't leave her alone.You know how annoying it is to have a fly buzzing around you and it just wont go away? That's how she's gonna feel. And in the end that fly gets swatted and feels hurt...catch my drift?Do you dig?

omfg! not even going to bother arguing with a bitch like u

how about u all go fuck yourselves I'm making the damn move in a month.. I'm done with this forum.

You can chase a butterfly all over the field and never catch it. But if you sit quietly in the grass it will come and sit on your shoulder.

Bye then. You asked what everyone thought and everyone has been giving their honest opinions to help you out. The truth can hurt sometimes.

Even if you don't read this, I am going to write it anyways. You are making yourself sound like a dumbass dude, you keep saying all this stuff "your kindred spirit, blah blah, blah" she knows that you like her, and she is going to use that to her advantage to take advantage of you. All that stuff about the dream, and the fortune cookie, bullshit dude, don't even go there, it's not going to impress her, it's going to make her think you are a retard (no offense to anyone). If you really like the chick, and even though she probably doesn't like you, and you insist on pursuing it, don't go at it like some shakespeare reject, just tell her how you feel, not about some lame ass dream that was probably fake anyways. If you lay it out there, sincere, and simple, and not full of crap, you will have a much better chance. You don't have to make her feel like she is the most important thing to you, because odds are, she isn't, especially if your still young, which it sounds like you are. She knows that you only saying this to get with her, and she probably thinks, even if it isnt true, your saying it to get into her pants.

Man I know your blindly following your heart here but you have to keep in mind what her heart wants. She called you a sweet guy. If being called sweet is a womans 'go-ahead' call then I would be with just about half the women I know.Sure there is other stuff she has said but it could also arguably be just a woman complementing one of her best friends who happens to be a guy. If she is, or will be soon, done with this Josh guy...give her some time to herself man! She just got out of a relationship so let her work it out, regardless of how shitty it had been.Then if she is showing signs of attraction (and believe me bud this means more then being called 'sweet'), and only then, should you even consider putting the moves on her. At the moment you sound rather pestering, she's made it quiet clear she isn't interested because if she was, she would have come right about abt it....women who are attracted to you rarely beat around the bush.When to put the moves on you ask? Not any time in the near future unless you wish to totally butcher your chances with this fine lady. Now if your going to call us bitches or assholes or swear off this forum then keep this in mind: Why is it the consensus of this entire board seems to think you should not go ahead with your overly ambitious plan? You told us not to talk about whether she likes you or not, but we have to bring it up because we don't want you to get yourself hurt. But if your not going to take heed, then curse us....fine be that way...it's unfortunate what your going to put yourself thru. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

First of all I'm sorry for being a/an dick/asshole/bitch/moron/and anything else u want to call me. I realize you all are trying to help me and I thank you for that. In response to hugh_jorgen:Okay she may know that I like her but I've never said anything like the kindred spirit phrase in person. That's why I was going to say that. The dream and the fortune cookie thing did actually happen and I did notice her in school the next day. As you can notice I never finished what I was going to say what I posted was probably only going to be 3/4 of it the other 1/4 was going to be what I really thought about her. I have way to big of a crush on her, at the moment she is the most important thing to me. I'll probably get a bunch of crap for saying this but I really did think she was the "one." I'm not trying to get into her pants, I've even told her before that I believe sex should be special. What do you suggest I do since my feelings are so strong? I'm not willing to give up and I guess I could be her friend but that would be so hard. In response to Hyperion:I see what you're saying so she only likes me as a friend right now and yes I should give her some time to recooperate. I've never been in this situation before(yes I know sad, lol), tell me what some signs of attraction would be. Actually I'm not pestering at all, I'm way to shy to talk in school and ever since she said no it's just been casual talking on the internet. Yes I know I'm weird afraid to talk(to girls I like or people I don't know) in school, then outside of school I won't shut up. (Note: I've only talked to her 5 hours person to person and she even commented on the fact that we always talk so much.) Getting back to what u said, lol... What do u mean by women who are attracted to me rarely beat around the bush? Actually quite a number of girls have said they like me lately.(and no I'm not ready to move on quite yet..unless I meet someone like stephanie again) I guess I will never put the moves on in the near future unless I'm getting really good vibes. What I was going to say to her today was something to say if she felt the same way...if I do say anything in the near future it'll probably be something about how crazy I'm about her(is that what u mean by how I truly feel?). Aye this whole ordeal reminds me of the Linkin Park song: In The End.

Nice to see your open to some suggestions now hehe. Ok as far as being able to tell the difference between a woman being playful and a woman who is giving you some signs of attraction: I would not know were to start, however I'm going to refer you to a site that has been a reliable source of extremely valuable information every man should have: http://www.askmen.comThat site is the bible of man! Articles on dating&love, sexuality, men, women, health&sports, fashion&lifestyle, power&money, entertainment, and a few other goodies. It's simply a god send in my opinion. Check out the article database on Dating&Relationships....a lot of good stuff in there I think you and others out there can definitely use.Also: you were wondering what "beating around the bush" meant. Basically it means "Not getting to the point, dodging the issue, or just plain avoiding or putting off what you should or would like to do." So wut i'm saying is if she liked you she probably wud not be coy about it, women are pretty easy to read most of the time...then again I've experienced some confusing ones in my day Anyhow, be sure to check that link out and I hope stuff works out ok.Regards,Hyperion

True if she really did like me then she wouldn't be coy about it but then yet again she is really shy(Oh well here's some knowledge from Big Daddy: Initiating the conversation is half the battle )lol... Oh yeah btw that site is awesome thanks for that.

Hey Weapon,You're not following your heart, my friend, you're caught up in a fantasy, and it's going to drag you down if you don't break free. This happens to a lot of guys, so I'm not going to join the chorus by saying that you're "scary," but I do think that you need to seriously reconsider your "course of action."As many others have already said, you don't understand this woman. Although your most harmful misunderstanding might be your belief that she secretly wants you, you're reading her incorrectly in more than just one way.The truth is that she's not your kindred spirit, goddess, "one" or any of that. You’re habitually assigning traits to her that you must rationally realize are impossible. If you're not close enough to her to detect her true feelings (after all, you’re asking total strangers on A2A to interpret her behavior and intentions), how can you know her true person? I've been in some relationships that have failed after months or year of intense romance and friendship. I saw these women almost every day. We talked about everything, we made love, we slept beside each other night after night, and yet the romance drifted away like sand into the ocean. The fact is that it takes nearly forever (or perhaps longer than forever) to truly know someone, no matter how intense your feelings are at the moment. It also takes a forever to truly know yourself-- for instance, it took me many years of dating to discover that I need an arrogant woman even more than I need a nice woman. I would never assume that I knew someone, or least of all that they were the "one," merely by the content of our Internet conversations. Unfortunately, Internet conversations, and even most phone conversations and personal conversations are best at conveying simple messages rather than the complex structure of someone's personality. One of those simple things is "no," and you must accept and respect this answer both for her sake and for yours. Break free of the fantasy- there is no Stephanie as she exists in your dreams. You’ll find much more satisfaction in real women, and Stephanie is not the place to start; she’s a dead end. Good luck…